Certainly not Godard’s easiest film. The French auteur’s notoriously aggressive anti-American rhetoric guides this cinematic dissertation into a variety of topics including the Vietnam War and semantics. While the film may be somewhat self-suffocating based on the sheer variety of topics, it is nonetheless presented in a reliably attentive fashion.
Exceptional. This film-essay is a great juxtaposition in comparison with Godard's Anna Karina films. Instead of fetishizing Anna Karina he really compares the aspects of narrative with political composition and ultimately creates beautiful aesthetic poetry. The combination of all the narratives and his narration keeps the viewer in to listen to his philosophies that echo so clear.
Had a hard time. Not really struck by anything. Don't feel I saw anything new beyond the progression of his essay form. Loved JLG/JLG as a film whose ideas are more constant throughout than the external action and 'plot' (Essay/Portrait). Interested in this stuff, but I only see the banalities I already knew. Not as in love with the images as everyone else (except for the coffee and Juliet Berto of course).
The word, "pretentious" belongs to films like Pierrot Le Fou and Made in USA mainly because both films were his attempts to make self important, strongly entertaining films about sociopolitical issues world over. They were failures - 2 or 3 Things is his success. What seemed like ramblings in his previous films feels like poetry here. It lives up to the hype - it truly is a film essay.
When I am watching a movie, I'd rather be inside it. Godard seems to push the audience away by murmuring his very subjective ideas. There are no characters only some people living in this world talking to the camera which makes the whole idea cold and irritating. Philosophy, similar thoughts about life and the world and even those beautiful pop art shots doesn't help this-test of intelligency-thing at all.
I'm not exactly sure what it is I saw. It's pretty damn beautiful to look at, that much I know. I found the way the characters were framed with all that head-space weird but interesting. Everything else is like pop-art vomit, and I don't know how I feel about that.
"What is art? Form becoming style; but the style is the man; therefore art is the humanizing of forms. "
Difficult-as-all-hell viewing, but worth it. You feel like you've been told something truly special by the end, but you're not sure what.
Maybe Godard's best. The line about life being like a comic strip seemingly summarizes Godard's approach consisting of examining character's reflections and epiphanies within examinations of their environment and a search for structure in a world defined by futurism and pop art. His theory being observations of the world + characters + search for structure accumulates the essence of life.
The first time I watched 2 or 3 things, it seemed like a collection of beautiful images without a narrative or much reason to support them. However; after listening to the excellent dvd commentary(criterion), it was easier to see what Godard was trying to do and appreciate the film to a much higher degree.
"The man of tomorrow is confident but not aggressive. He's ready to admit he has problems & recognize his failings. Such a man isn't afraid to say, 'I don't know.' Only the self-confident can admit failure." ~ 2 or 3 Things.
the coffee scene was probably the only good scene in this entire movie. between the two, made in u.s.a. was a much better film visually and cinematically.
I can honestly say a film has never made me think as much as 2 or 3 things has
The coffee scene is one of the most beautiful moment of cinema. A reproduction of the universe. A film about of capitalism is destroying humanity and how it is the same people who get hurt. The sounds of the contruction sites are a violation on the city, the public and the families of Paris. 40 years later, it's the same. What has changed ? Not that much. Just more money, blood and useless toys. Fiction or reality ?
I still have a lot to learn before I can fully comprehend and appreciate Jean-Luc Godard as a master of cinematic technique - I'm awestruck by films like Contempt, but not a sophisticated enough viewer to express why - but his work as a cinematic philosopher and political/social commentator is second-to-none. He's known for his radical style, but it's the radical content that I love in his work the most.
Question...what's with Godard and pinball machines?? Just curious if anyone has thoughts or knows anything about that...they seem to pop up in all his films
It's a nice question whether Godard's incessant logocentrism is ironically intended or not. His female figures appear to maintain a defiant opposition to it, even when he has maybe scripted their responses. Something of the surrealist notion of the feminine as voyante, unassimilable escapes the modish philosophical tirade, thankfully. Is it possible- even for Godard- to find the universe the depths of a cup of black coffee and still expect to be taken entirely seriously?
KC - I believe you have completely reversed Godard's intention. Look at the scene near the beginning; two men, back to us, listening to and interpreting politics, while the woman talks about fashion. But they are not engaging with anyone, or any thing. Bedroom agitators. She tries to talk to them, on a human level, personal. They are the superficial ones. In one of the next scenes, it is the woman doing the work, the washing-up, being useful, engaging with the world. All the men in the film are sidelined, peripheral, almost useless.
The examination of words and meaning in this film alongside the study of subject/object blew my mind. Godard really put some of my most abstract thoughts into a succinct form. It's dense and abstract so I find many have a tough time with it but the more I think about it, the more the film teaches me.