killingtime
20Mar13
=)) Eeee...ga boleh spoiler yak! Ckckckck #takol
More than a mere genre picture. Carnahan combines spiritual desperation, masculinity, survival adventure and some of the best snow photography this side of Shepitko's The Ascent to make a modern classic of action cinema.
Piacevolissimo quando si concentra sui personaggi e sulle analogie con il branco di lupi, molto meno quando invece si lascia prendere dall'entusiasmo e straborda. Ha qualche pecca a livello di scrittura (che cazzo c'avranno da ridere questi mezzi dispersi e assediati dai lupi?) e una durata eccessiva non aiutata dal ritmo blando, però si riprende con la storia del personaggio di Liam Neeson e il bel finale.
Once more into the fray... Into the last good fight I'll ever know. Live and die on this day... Live and die on this day... ajib. dah serius2 ditonton malah mati semua. #lemparbomkelepi
Long winded, hilariously hammy, heavy handed, mostly stupid, occasionally powerful and not unartistic. The first half is full of what are basically Middle-earth wolves, but eventually those only show up when the actor's run out of things the writer wants them to say. If you'd rather see a monster movie than a straight-up survival tale, you could do worse. You could also do better.
The imho most important shot of the film is shown at the very end of the credits. If you missed it you probably misunderstood the whole movie. Which would be a pitty.
If you show me Liam Neeson donning a set of broken-bottle knuckle dusters in the trailer to your movie, then you'd better make damn well sure that I get to see Liam Neeson punch something with them in your movie!
How do I gracefully retract a review? I watched the film again, and this time around it was a different experience. I remember being annoyed & disgusted at the demonizing of the wolves, and that was foremost in my mind throughout. - anthropomorphism to a ridiculous degree. That aside, I'd say I was harsh with my comments on first review; it's an interesting, if obvious meditation on death. ROBOTKATHLEEN: Thanks.
oh wow. that's nice! and yeh, use of caricatured-wolves like that did seem strange to me at first too, wasn't sure what we were in for. actually, i didn't know anything about the film before i saw it, just the title, i half expected aliens :)
In terms of Neesonness, its better than Unknown but not as good as Taken. All of course are better than Taken 2.
Yeah, real fucking macho considering they spend most(99%) of the film running away, both mentally and physically.
People are comparing this unbearably maudlin tripe to ALIEN in earnest? The guy who posted "Never work for Weyland-Yutani" earlier was funny, but yeah. This movie is garbage. I wanted "Fights With Wolves," not "Neeson Reads Lame Poetry With Intense Gravity." Even the deconstruction of male machismo is lame, contrived. The howling and snarling of the wolves was just absurd. A cheap, ham-fisted waste of a premise.
To elaborate, it just didn't work for me on any level: not as an arthouse body horror thriller that could truly stand alongside ALIEN, not as a particular unique or engaging contemplation on man facing his mortality (or even just his masculinity), not as an action film, and not as a piece of affecting sentimental cinema. Instead, it cheaply and unabashedly jammed all of these things into one movie and ran flat into a wall from every angle, penetrating nothing.
you're an idiot. i normally dont troll but you brought it out of me. the film is brilliant and your opinion is useless to all but yourself.
That's a troll? Trolling whom, yourself? Your filmography sure looks like you have a history of well thought-out, non-trolling posts.
RV: I agree with you - macho nonsense. Liam Neeson is in danger of becoming a cliche; posturing, bigger than life roles are becoming tiresome, and he's capable of much better work. The Grey doesn't come close to Alien (please!) or The Thing ('82), or Open Water for that matter. I didn't care about the characters, nor did I feel the sense of helpless paranoia so well represented in the other films. I'd rather read Jack London's "To Build a Fire" - that tale is as cold and lonely as it gets.without the rhetoric. I don't understand the point in calling you an "idiot"
I will watch The Grey once more - maybe I missed something profound. I doubt it, but we'll see....
i thought that liam neeson having actually experienced the intense grief of losing his wife as he did in 2009 gives this film an extra dimension. what a feeling it must have been for him. could bearing that in mind help to give the film a bit more substance for you? i'd hope so. everyone involved in making the thing would have had a sense of that too. intense gravity? - i expect so! maybe you're quite right and it's not such a great film, but there's a very real dimension beyond superficial film criticism surely and it's relevant. if you can really say it every angle runs into a wall, you're missing out!
I guess that's a bit of a quandary for me. On the one hand I can appreciate what you're saying about the aspect of mourning he might bring to a role such as this, but at the same time I'm a bit uncomfortable with him milking his grief for millions. I guess that's just it: he's an actor who's paid immensely for what he does, and so now he does movies like Taken and Taken 2, stone-faced and vengeful, fearless against death. I can't quite decide whether it's admirable or just really corny. Perhaps I should apologize for my cynicism? Even if I didn't have concerns about Neeson by himself (and I agree with sandracine; he can do better), The Grey punches so many holes in its own potentially pregnant moments, constantly falling back on ill-wrought macho flexing, that I can't take it as seriously as it wants to be taken. By which I mean I am not saying there aren't shreds of genuine and resonating emotion here, mostly coming from Neeson himself — I'm saying I think the direction and dialogue does everything it can to undermine that.
i haven't seen the 'taken' movies. not arguing with your evaluation of the grey, the world's all about infinite potentials for perspective and perception of course. one thing though, to suggest that a person's 'milking their grief' is yes, a touch cynical! and a bit too easy to say. he does act for a living, but it doesn't mean that one movie won't be 'just a job' compared to another with more personal healing processes involved. 'work' in the public eye can still be a private experience rather than a financial motivation. just wanted to say that! and i could be wrong, but i hope not. cheers :)
Una delle migliori sorprese del cinema americano di genere arriva da dove meno te l'aspetti; l'idea che il duo Carnahan/Neeson sia passato da A-Team a questo fascinoso thriller quasi mi procura mal di testa. I riferimenti ideali si sprecano: non solo cinematografici, come il Runaway Train di Konchalovskiy e il cinema di Boorman e Carpenter, ma persino letterari (impossibile mancare le suggestioni da Conrad e London).
mostly standard macho-action movie, that is lifted above the average for its genre by the magnificent environmental setting
A testament to how good 2012 has been, even the routine man-against-nature thriller is exceptional. Carnahan's best film since "Narc", and as scary as it's obvious frozen predecessor, John Carpenter's "The Thing".
Un peu déçu par un film ayant du potentiel avec Liam Neeson en tête d'affiche qui selon moi à donner une très bonne prestation malgré un personnage un peu flou et un scénario très moyen. La direction photo était superbe ainsi que la musique. Par contre il y a quelques moment où je me suis senti comme dans Alien, peut-être à cause des personnages secondaires et soudainement qui vois-je comme producteur: Ridley Scott.
After constant insistence that I would like this one, I finally caved and gave it a try. And I was very impressed. Another "group thriller" like Sunshine or The Thing or even Alien, only this psychological battle is against nature. A little quick at times, a little slow at times but it is an enjoyable film. Liam Neeson has some great moments in it and the mindset of the characters were highly interesting. Good call.
Another of the survivors movies, involving an airplane crash still surviving against Mother Nature. The story defocus from the panoramio of Alaska but close up on a mystic human able to scary wolves with his mental powers. How the third last decided to abandon his vigor and the wolf BBQ are my two selected momentum. At the end I expected Mr empathy to ride the big-bad-alpha wolf on the way back home.
All anyone wanted was to see Neeson tape broken mini-bottles of liquor to his fists and punch the shit out of a wolf, and the film absolutely messes that up in favour of a mawkish and trite attempt at being meaningful. No thank you. My needs from this film were simple and yet it utterly failed to deliver them. Bah.
while not perfect, i thought this was a surprisingly badass and occasionally even well-scripted bit of manly indulgence. sure, it's a movie where liam neeson is HUNTED DOWN BY WOLVES, but if you can stomach the premise, it's also tense, fun and enjoyably bleak. and dare i say it? i actually thought the subplot with the pseudo-bad-guy was genuinely heartfelt and well-rendered. watch this instead of "prometheus."
Great directing, amazing camera work, solid screenplay, Liam is back on the acting wagon... BUT what a horrible work on animatronics and CGI... I have to say that ruined some crucial scenes for me because it kicked me out of the film. I understand it is a low budget film... so stick to the low budget and cut the horrible 1980's special effects!
i guess acquiring every certain set of skills for killing, well, anything is one way to deal with your wife's death. too bad it's also pretty much a waste of your actual skill set.
pretty good camerawork, but otherwise zzzzzzzz. i simply could not take any of it seriously.
I think I need to see this once more, I think it has the potential to grow. I did enjoy it, yes. I will also say that the scene by the river at about the 85min mark may be one of the stand alone best scenes of the year so far. A good, almost great film, that almost went unnoticed by me.
Just rewatched this film. It's ridiculously entertaining and Liam Neeson is incredible. I think this film is currently the biggest surprise of 2012. Went in not expecting much at all and left completely blown away. It's almost better the 2nd viewing. I liked the cinematography more this time but wish it had more wide shots. I highly recommend this movie. It's smart, scary, thrilling, and badass as the fires of hell!