whoa
It’s always interesting when such things are found.
In Kubrick’s case, I have a feeling he would dislike the idea of the footage being re-inserted, given that he himself cut it.
From a film history point of view, of course one would like to see a more complete print, just to compare.
It doesn’t mean it should replace Stanley’s final intentions.
Old mines can be cool, controlled environments for films, cels and documents; hence their use for storage.
Everyone’s Kubrick collection just dropped in value !
Sell ! sell ! sell !
I don’t think they should do a new cut of the film. I’d prefer to see a BD edition with those 17 minutes as deleted scenes. I think Warner should respect the artist’s vision of the final work instead of re-editing the film to explore its commercial potential.
Huh. That’s neat.
—DiB
I have no interest in seeing that extra footage inserted back into the film. I have no interest in watching that footage period. This isn’t Greed or The Magnificent Ambersons where extra footage would be a real treasure. Like it’s already been said, Kubrick cut the film himself, no one had any part on that decision therefore it should be left the way it is. Hopefully the Kubrick estate will be able to have some kind of a say in this and realize that it’s a stupid idea to put it back in the film and wont allow the studio to do so.
Honestly, extra features for the curious. That’s what I’m thinking. Like Napoleon, it should never be made but at least the script exists for those who care.
—PolarisDiB
I can’t imagine that the Kubrick estate would allow the footage to be cut back into the film. But what a wonderful find — I’d love to see it. Special features on a DVD, perfect!
With Blu Ray, they can put out a disk without the footage, with the footage, and with the footage as extras.
I’m all for it, screw the Kubrick Estate.
I recall that when the film opened in 1968 much of this material was included, but after about a week Kubrick cut it out.
It would be nice to see it as supplemental material but the film as Kubrick finally cut it should be preserved as is.
Cool!
I’d like to see how the material flows when cut with the rest of the film.
It doesn’t have to be labeled as a definitive cut, they can call it a preliminary cut, but I think that the material is worth more when presented with the film, rather than as a side piece.
Lots of films have footage cut from them after initial release, for various reasons, usually to make the film flow better or to shorten it to squeeze extra showings in. The “excised footage” doesn’t always belong back in the film. Sometimes it’s nice to see it, sometimes it’s really annoying. I’m still angry at the so-called “restored” version of THE GOOD, THE BAD AND THE UGLY. The “restored” scenes completely ruined the carefully created circular rhythms of the cut we all knew and loved.
THE WILD BUNCH is another matter. I loved the film both with and without the restored scenes. Their excision didn’t hurt the film, nor was the film any better or worse when they were put back. They did add some background details that are nice to know, but not crucial to the film.
As for 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY, I really don’t think it needs to be any longer.
I’m certainly interested in seeing those deleted scenes as an extra for a future BD release, just because they will provide a window into Kubrick’s editing choices. The film should be kept as it is because the director decided so.
Great—as a supplement.
I find it interesting and I’d like to see it, but really I wouldn’t touch the film itself.
I want the same thing to happen to the lost ending of The Shining. Let us see it.
Gees, with that footage added in, maybe 2001 can put me to sleep even faster.
I saw “The Shining” with that ending. It was a scenw between barry Naleson and Shelley Duvall where he told her nothing had happend at the hotel at all. Then it cut to the last shot of the slowly moving in close-up of the pcitrue with Jack Nicholson in it.
Kubrick was right to cut it.
What about a 3-D re-release in theatres including these 17 minutes of footage? Just kidding
It should only be released as extra material, by criterion perhaps?
I think they better look very closely into that salt mine…it might contain a buried monolith which will explain just what those missing 17 minutes are all about. Kubrick’s last laugh? Or is it really the aliens, after all?
What I really want to see is the ‘missing’ footage from the final sequence in the bedroom, where Bowman is staring into the monolith from his bed, and suddenly realizes there are golden arches shining from it. Kubrick cut it apparently, as too blatant product placement. But that would explain a lot about the monolith, don’t you think?
I created a thread a while back where I asked when Dave Larson’s book on the making of 2001 was coming out and I received no answer. Does anybody know when that book is coming out? Also, somewhere on youtube a while back, Douglas Trumbull was at a university I believe and he was telling about the new documentary about 2001 that he was collaborating on with Dave Larson called Beyon the Infinite. He said the studio withdrew their support for releasing it before they finished the project. Is the film now going to be released?
I don’t care what this new footage is – insert it now! And while were at it, can we lose that 15 minute voyage to Jupiter crap? I can buy a lava lamp at the thrift store if I want that sort of experience. Since 2001 is easily one of Kubrick’s worst movies, I’m all for changing it in any way that improves it. Purists be damned!
I prefer the augmented “Apocalypse Now Redux” to the original release. To me, the French-colonial scenes added a great deal to the film’s complexity and sweep. I don’t know that the found material would add as much to “2001.”
Apparently Kubrick said the 17 minutes were cut “for pacing” so he may very well have liked the scenes but needed things tightened up a bit for it’s wide release. I agree with not inserting them back in the film though. Deleted scenes on a new bluray would be nice, who knows how long it will be before we even see any of this though!
Ben.
In a salt mine of all places.
Here is a link for those who feel so inclined.