I don’t like a filmmaker just for being slow. I still have to find something that personally fascinates me in what they are showing
Agree with this point completely, Riss. That’s why the films of the so-called CCC group are hit and miss with me, too. Sometimes, a little narrative strcuture doesn’t go amiss.
Like you, the comments of others in this Cup can definitely effect my own – esp. if mine are hazy (which is often the case!).
l’m very biased in this match since l adore Bartas. Freedom isn’t in 3-4 of my fav films by Bartas, true, but l still love everything he made. Oxymoron said all of that in a good way, one can’t resonate much with characters in this film. But, l guess bec l saw everything he made l observe his characters in a light on his entire work. And it’s like with Dostoevsky’s work for example – they have some motives they will repeat over and over. Bartas has much more than some beautiful shots of nature we saw in Freedom. And thank you Risselada for submitting his film again. And l’m sorry l think he deserved it. People keep complaining about filmmakers who were in previous cup until it’s about some filmmakers they love, but a lot of people didn’t take any part in cups before and all of this is new. And no matter that l’m not going to vote, l’m very thankful that l had a chance to see some films from WC. And everything l wanted to say, Jorge Didaco said before me. I guess that everyone here expected masterpieces in every match. l didn’t. l wanted films where l will see/learn something worth. And l got it. No matter that is was about only one scene or entire film. So, thanks to all people for submitting all films, and thank you Risselada for Freedom, maybe that will move (and l doubt) people to watch his films. it’s personal thing anyway. And l respect that. And for me, he’s one of the most important filmmakers of my life, l never didn’t ask for more anyway.
i wasn’t complaining about filmmakers returning from previous cups, i was just simply saying i personally had no interest in seeing more from certain ones i’ve seen plenty from. i’m glad if people discover new films by actually watching them and voting rather than just turning up when a filmmaker they already love is in a match.
l’m sorry that l love some filmmakers too much and that l think they deserve more attention than they get it. And l already tried to vote before and to be part fo this by my votes were presented as “violent and sexual” and l’m not going to be part of some shallow propaganda. And l don’t see anything bad in try to share my love for some films or filmmakers or for respect to Risselada’s effort to keep this wc decent how much it’s possible. And l’m sorry if you found yourself in my words.
yeah that was a really sarcastic nasty thing said to you bee (about “not enough sex and violence?” for you in Amelia), so I can understand why you thought you wouldn’t bother again
l was “bothering” again…l wanted to “take part” only in 3 matches more…to say few words about The Garden, to say few words about Bartas and to say few words about Jose Val del Omar, one great filmmaker imo, who doesn’t get any attention. l was happy that he is in WC bec l thought people will FINALLY see his films, but now l see they probably won’t. Not bec l haven’t seen some other films in cup (believe it or not, l did) but bec those mentioned filmmakers are very important to me and l thought it’s a good idea to say something about why l love them that much. l was obviously wrong. l apologize to everyone if my posts were boring and unnecessary. But don’t ask yourself then why people don’t want to be part of this, it’s not bec of you Riss, it’s not even bec of films, it’s bec of atmosphere here.
your comments about The Garden were well received as I recall (I thought them quite fascinating:) & don’t think anyone thought “boring/unnecessary” about your posts. The atmosphere has been mostly fine here except for a few personal attacks which I think have been the “boring and unnecessary” bits. I don’t know why magpies would not “find herself in your words” as she had just made that point in regard to Bartas being in previous cups and I didn’t think her reply was anything but a simple clarification of what she meant….. hope you stick around I’ve found your comments interesting there’s always the risk of getting ticked off on internet forums I think it’s a difficult thing communicating without body language etc (and we don’t have emoticons :):) to make up for it) people should be able to express their feelings/gripes etc and say if they think a film was crap or whatever, it’s not like some holy chalice but general statements about poor quality etc aren’t helpful (and not true, there’s b een some fine films on offer)
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l have gone too far and l’m sorry. l reacted too passinate, as l am when it’s about his films and can’t help it. but it’s not a reason to be sour as l was.
@Meg et al. . . . but general statements about poor quality etc aren’t helpful (and not true, there’s been some fine films on offer. It’s over a week after this comment was made, and it may have been made in response to my verbal question whether it is better to spend our limited time watching Cup films or be able to see some great films which we haven’t yet seen. I think I belabored the lack of greatness in some of the Cup matches. Anyway, that’s the backstory as I recall. First off, I apologize for getting all high-handed about my judgement of what’s great or mediocre. Secondly, I’ve come to remember that the Cup isn’t only to watch canonical films with preexisting reputations, but to discover films of merit from hither and yon (Papua, New Guinea being yon). Meg, you’re correct, there have certainly been some fine films on offer. It has been packed with unique, quality offerings. I retract any statements about poor quality which I made about the Cup and those who submit films in the Cup. I forgot that the possibility of getting some stinkers is unavoidable in reaching beyond the accepted and laurel-headed titles. Also, it just might occur that in years to come I’ll look back more fondly on some of the stinkers than the overwhelming popular films in our matches. Every once in awhile I hiss, but it’s just a puncture of hot air.
Bee, sorry I didn’t say earlier, but thank you for your comments. :)
Risselada
If David Attenborough was to do a Waiting for Godot, would it look something like this?
I love this thought as well!