This topic is part of the 2012 MUBI World Cup. If you have not already done so, please read the first post at the topic for an introduction to and rules about this year’s World Cup:
The purpose of this topic is to cast votes in the matchup listed above and also to be a forum for discussing the films in the match.
Anyone who has seen both of the films listed above may vote in this match. You must vote for whichever of the two films you personally like better. In order to vote you must post a reply to this topic containing one of the following sequences:
If you are voting for A Tree in Tanjung Malim: “Malaysia (A Tree in Tanjung Malim) 1 – Sweden (Miss Julie) 0”
If you are voting for Miss Julie: “Malaysia (A Tree in Tanjung Malim) 0 – Sweden (Miss Julie) 1”
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This match will end on Saturday August 4 at 10:00 PM GMT. No votes attempted to be cast after that time will be counted. Shortly after the match ends the votes will be tallied and a winner of the match will be declared. If the films both receive the same number of votes, the match will be considered a tie.
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Malaysia (A Tree in Tanjung Malim) 0 – Sweden (Miss Julie) 1
Two couples in two films, somehow never striking the right chord and talking past one another by trying to get close.
The Malaysian short was realistic in dialogue and setting, showing us an emerging female director with a good feel for character and setting. However, it was no match (for me) with this intense Strindberg adaptation. Miss Julie now seems a dated play, almost misogynist in showing how a head-strong feminism instilled into Miss Julie by her domineering mother wrecks any chance she has at happiness. Strindberg struck a low blow to independent women of his own period (his play written in the late 1800’s) by portraying the mother as a feminist madwoman. Still, there is a lot of tension on display as the sexes and classes battle in this powder keg of a story. The romance between a self-centered young woman and her equally self-centered servant has almost Wuthering Heights overtones. But the element of suicide (second match in a row with suicide as a motif in a film) makes this an even darker tragedy than Heathcliff and Cathy.
One can see how Bergman was so drawn to Strindberg’s dark, Nordic sensibilities, as he considered Strindberg his favorite playwright. Nice to see a young Max von Sydow in a nearly silent role, but making the most of it. Good acting and filming, making this Cannes winner hard to beat – but I’m probably wrong, as the last match demonstrated.
An exciting match! ;)
For me the tension between Julie and the servamt was too low key almost. i must be one of the few people in the world(along with Den) that preferred Figgis’ version.
I wonder if anyone has been able to see other Sjöberg’s films besides “Torment” (my own favorite), I have heard great things about “Himlaspelet” and “Bara en mor”.
Looks like another shut out in the works.
VOTING IS CLOSED
Malaysia (A Tree in Tanjung Malim) – 0
Sweden (Miss Julie) – 6
The winner is:
For Sweden – With the Times!!
Thou ancient, thou free, thou mountainous North
Thou quiet, thou joyful and fair!
I greet thee, most beautiful land upon earth,
Thy sun, Thy sky, Thy meadows green
Thou art enthroned upon memories of great olden days,
When honored thy name flew across the earth,
I know that thou art and wilt remain what thou wast,
Yes, I want to live I want to die in the North
Pretty tough, if not impossible, for any short subject to compete equally against Alf Sjöberg’s Miss Julie—a revered, eminently skillful work which deserves its secure place in the film canon; but that being said, I relished viewing Tan Chui Mui’s short very much. All of the unspoken communication between the two actors certainly wasn’t hidden from the audience, and yet there was mystery, poignant scenes with and without dialog, and a clean window through which to witness the paroxyms of one youthfully romantic evening. Can’t wait to see more of her work.
I’m very sorry i missed this, i thought it was still ongoing- i really like both films, and it’s a pity Tree in Tanjung Malim, which i proposed, had no votes. I’ve been giving all things cinematic a miss recently, wondering when the enthusiasm will return :( Can’t force these things, will come naturally…