This topic is part of the 2012 MUBI World Cup. If you have not already done so, please read the first post at the topic for an introduction to and rules about this year’s World Cup:
The purpose of this topic is to cast votes in the matchup listed above and also to be a forum for discussing the films in the match.
Anyone who has seen both of the films listed above may vote in this match. You must vote for whichever of the two films you personally like better. In order to vote you must post a reply to this topic containing one of the following sequences:
If you are voting for Cold Fever: “Iceland (Cold Fever) 1 – Papua New Guinea (Black Harvest) 0”
If you are voting for Black Harvest: “Iceland (Cold Fever) 0 – Papua New Guinea (Black Harvest) 1”
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Iceland (Cold Fever) 0 – Papua New Guinea (Black Harvest) 1
Now I’ve just watched Cold Fever and am interested in seeing Black Harvest. Knowing that this film is part of a trilogy, do I have to be at all familiar or have seen the other films?
Which one is part of a trilogy?
It´s not obligatory to have seen the first two parts in order to understand the happenings in “Black Harvest”, though having seen “Joe Leahy´s Neighbours” (which is pretty excellent in its own right) gives one a more thorough grasp of “Black Harvest”´s protagonist and his motivations. There´s also a short intro regarding the central scenes of “Joe Leahy´s Neighbours” at the beginning of “Black Harvest”, so if you intend to watch that third part right now for the world cup and perhaps catch up on the first two parts some other time you shall also be fine.
Hmm, now I don’t know. You make it seem pretty necessary and I don’t want to just watch the film solely for voting. And I’m not too sure about the availability of these other films.
I can’t vote because BLACK HARVEST is in French only and I would lose too much. Sad, I thought we had English subtitles as a requisite for each match.
No wonder the voters are so few. Riss what’s up?
Damn that sucks. I didn’t notice that when it was sent to me. Well blame apursansar. It must have been his dirty trick to get Papua New Guinea to go from such a low voting percentage in it’s last match to go to 100% for this match….. Unless you guys want to consider it not fair
I can’t do everything though.
Dang I didn’t even notice it was time to post the new match already because I saw this one had such low votes I subconciously felt like the match couldn’t have been done already.
EDIT: Oh I remember. When Meg first sent it to me I listened to random parts of it and it seemed like it was all in English. Large parts of it are in English but I guess not all of it….
I would like to see the Papua New Guinea film- i enjoyed Tinpis Run. I would expect to prefer it to Cold Fever which didn’t do much for me when i saw it some years ago
VOTING IS CLOSED
Iceland (Cold Fever) – 0
Papua New Guinea (Black Harvest) – 1
The winner is:
PAPUA NEW GUINEA!
Unity in diversity!!
O arise all you sons of this land, Let us sing of our joy to be free, Praising God and rejoicing to be Papua New Guinea.
Riss, it’s predominantly in French or the New Guinea home language. All the workers and highlanders speak their native language, translated into French subtitles. The only English is during one on one interviews with the owner of the plantation, and title cards at the beginning with French subs, which is far too little of the story or the grievances which the workers are striking/fighting about. If that’s what they’re doing. I watched it all. I think it should be disqualified. Only one voter. Not sub-titled in English. Against a pretty good Icelandic road movie. I’m not sure anyone cares much, and Black Harvest looked interesting, but not great by any means. Oddly it seemed similar to a mash-up of Tinpis Run and Playing Between Elephants in subject matter, but I’m sure I lost the lion’s share of its meaning. I would guess that Kenji would like its political content and indigenous cultural themes, as I would, but that I’d vote for Iceland, as I said, I think the Icelandic film is meritorious, funny, modern and international in scope, but who knows—its impossible to say, and how about others not able to participate? Although no one seems very interested, with the exception of MLADY MUZ, whom I assume speaks French or was content with missing most of the dialog.
I have no intention of making any kind of row, since the interest seems so anemic, but on the other hand, Papua, New Guinea should receive the same treatment as Germany or Argentina (both non-English). I bow out, let the hoards of Icelandic cinephiles pick up the gauntlet and fight it out with the Papua, New Guinea faithful. But, a flub nonetheless, one that I assume would have been caught by voters if it had been 2 large market countries. No blame, but a sorry comment on we film geeks.
I didn’t have time to watch Black Harvest through at the time (nor since) – language situation was described as “English/Papuan Language with French Subtitles” …as there were no comments about the lack of English on the links thread, or any separate files with English subs, and in light of English usually being first priority on that site I assumed it was mostly in English (like Riss I had a quick flick through, must have just struck some Eng and assumed all was ok). There was another version on another site which had some English hard coded subs but the links were dead. So I think this was the best we were going to get & unfortunately it happens that way sometimes….it’s just whatever can be “harvested”
No problem here, I don’t know how to harvest nuttin’
I’m sorry i didn’t see Black Harvest and vote, i’ve recently been affected by film overload and have to be in the right mood for any film. Also i had it in my head that Wales was next up and had promised a thread on The Other Side of the Underneath.
I mean it sucks, and it’s probably not fair in some way, but it’s just too complicated with the way things are tied together for me to try to stricken this match from the record. Whether we did or didn’t count it though my guess by the way things are looking is that neither country would have made it to the finals anyway. We’ll see. Papua New Guinea had the second worst match of the first round after Indonesia, so even with getting 100% of the votes in this match it might not be enough. And Iceland got 50% in it’s first match so if we didn’t count this match I still don’t think that’s enough to get into the finals either.