“As for Spike, nobody really gives two shits about him now so i guess that is inevitable ;-)”
Ha, it’s hard to argue that!
@ADROCK- Right!
Is Woody going to be in the movie?
Louis CK? cool, ma’ man.
Allen is seriously working on destroying his reputation for the future. He should have stopped making movies after Deconstructing Harry. Scorsese should have stopped after GoodFellas, Coppola after Apocaplypse Now! Why is it so hard to keep up the high standards? Maybe the time filmes are made in play a crucial part. Maybe the 21st century just isn’t the time for that many great pictures, at least not for the guys mentioned above.
“Scorsese should have stopped after GoodFellas”
I’d say after Casino ;-)
nobody should stop as long as they are financed
>>Allen is seriously working on destroying his reputation for the future.<<
It doesn’t work like that. John Ford, Howard Hawks, George Cukor and Billy Wilder all lost the golden touch with their last few films. They are remembered for their classics. When Woody passes, it won’t matter that he had a major slump in the late nineties/early 2000’s. He’ll be remembered for his classics (ditto Scorsese and Coppola)
On the other hand – Just read that Woody has cast Andrew Dice Clay in this SF film and don’t know how to process that.
^especially when every now and then he churns out a modest hit. Some of Woody’s most successful films have been films he’s done over the past ten years. It would be one thing if he was Brian De Palma, who literally hasn’t made a watchable film in over 15 years. But with Match Point, Vicki Cristina Barcelona, and Midnight in Paris, Woody is still making films that people enjoy.
Do people really like Match Point? I love it and think its one of his better films, but I was thinking that the general consensus is that it’s not a popular one amongst people who like Allen.
I didn’t care for Match Point but I haven’t seen it since the theater. But it made a considerable amount of money (at the time it seemed like it was his most popular amongst the public since Sweet & Lowdown) and is one of Allen’s personal favorites.
It’s an interesting film. Really shows Allen’s range. Although he’s gone ventured into different genres throughout his career, with this one you can really see how deeply he can submerge himself into a particular style. It’s a very sleek and sophisticated thriller. But I agree, his biggest moneymakers have been in the past 10 years or so.
Yeah, I really need to give it another chance and rewatch it.
The credit I will give to match point is that it’s a Woody Allen movie that looks and feels nothing like a Woody Allen film. Beyond that, the themes had already been explored much more potently in Crimes and Misdemeanors and I found the acting particularly uninvolving.
My only problem is Scarlett Johanson, but it’s not just here I have a problem with her, it’s usually everything. I thought Rgys Meyers was great.
Also love the whole Dostoevskyian (if that’s how it’s spelled) approach as well.
Johanson has been tricked (mostly by Allen and the success of Match Point) into thinking she should be some kind of femme fatale. She is actually much better when playing vulnerable in films like Ghost World and Lost in Translation.
I had a really hard time with Jonathan Rhyse Meyers. He reminds me of Hayden Christianson.
I remember having a huge problem with the Dostoevskyian approach… but I can’t really remember exactly what my problem was… it’s been a while
EDIT: I think I really didn’t like something about the investigators… Also, I had a huge problem that the movie the characters went to see was the Motorcycle Diaries… ugh!
I’d also like to say that the South Park episode “Smug Alert” remains the greatest San Francisco satire I’ve ever seen.
“Johanson has been tricked (mostly by Allen and the success of Match Point) into thinking she should be some kind of femme fatale. She is actually much better when playing vulnerable in films like Ghost World and Lost in Translation.”
Totally agree.
I’ve only seen a handful of Woody.
Looking forward to Match Point. It seems darker than his usual stuff, which is my main criticism of what I’ve seen of him.
That and he never really delivers on pathos. Even in Midnight in Paris, I felt like there was an emotional disconnect that the material did not deserve.
If you want the darkest Woody Allen, go with Deconstructing Harry.
http://www.filmschoolrejects.com/news/woody-allen-louis-c-k-andrew-dice-clay-nadam.php?_r=true
If the film is a comedy, and Woody is on it, I’d like to see a scene where he drives around the neighborhood for ten minutes looking for parking space, only to find that whatever few spaces left are turned into ‘parklets’. Or he should have a scene where he tries to parallel park his car downhill.
Dice has a sweetness to him onscreen that reminds me a bit of Jerry Lewis
no Casual Sex or Ford Fairlane fans out there?
I think Fairlane at least is pretty great
from time to time I pass off lines from that film as my own (:
Dice performs at local comedy clubs in SF quite often.
“If the film is a comedy, and Woody is on it, I’d like to see a scene where he drives around the neighborhood for ten minutes looking for parking space, only to find that whatever few spaces left are turned into ‘parklets’. Or he should have a scene where he tries to parallel park his car downhill”
hahahaha!
@Nightshift: you and I should totally rewrite this. We need to write in an Asian American character that lives in the Richmond and has a crush on a white girl but gets “friendzoned” because of preconceived notions of Asian male sexuality.
He will be played by John Cho.
DEN: I like Ford Fairlane. will be interesting to see Dice in an Allen film. I’m surprised he never bothered to use him decades ago.
@ADROCK- Right. Or, the Asian kid happens to be a big time Google/ Facebook/ Adobe/ Twitter techie who drives an Audi, while the girl is in-love with a hipster-slacker writer who lives in a loft and rides a vespa. Quite a socio-economic dillema for the girlfriends. The slacker dude will win in the end.
I’d like to see Woody freak out while getting hustled by a homeless dude, like the Mafia guys in Annie Hall.
Adrock
This cast seems kinda strange for SF as well. As much as it amuses me to see the “Diceman” listed for a Woody film, I can’t think of someone less San Francisco. I love me some Louis CK but he also seems very NYC or at least LA. Peter Sarsgaard I can see here. Working as a blissed out yoga teacher or something. I also didn’t notice any Asian actors in the main cast. Because as everyone who lives here knows, there are no Asians in SF.