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250/50: The MUBI Forum Users' Top 20 List Finals

Oxymoron

over 1 year ago

Yeelen +2
Charulata +2

To quote Javier:
No negative votes this time.
I’m sparing the poor bailiff, because of all his special pleading :)

Wait a minute… YOU BURNED HER AFTER YOU USED HER (re poor Joan) hahaha!
I have enjoyed your funny comments, DiB, which has helped keep this in the light vein that it should be considered. Thanks for organizing and tallying this fun event. Got me posting on the site – which may or may not be a good thing.

With this coming to a thankful close, I don’t want to belabor the canon/non-canon argument again. Points have been made pro & con (and are still being made – ha!) on this score. Although all of us will be sad to miss some of our favorites from this list, it does show we can come up with something quite different than the two previous versions of a site poll by Adam Cook and RUS.

Brentos

over 1 year ago

Sansho the Baliff +
The Cameraman +

The Age of Birth -
Shadows of Forgotten Ancestors -
A Brighter Summer Day -
Yeelen -

ruby stevens

over 1 year ago

@ oxy: do those lists still exist btw? would like to see them. i was away for awhile :P

scorpio​rising

over 1 year ago

“The Age of Birth”……

Matt Parks

over 1 year ago

Shadows of Forgotten Ancestors +2
A Brighter Summer Day +2
Harakiri (Seppuku) -1
The Cameraman (Keaton) -1
3 Women -1
We Won’t Grow Old Together -1

Waterlo​o Sunset

over 1 year ago

And now I know how Joan of Arc felt
Now I know how Joan of Arc felt

ruby stevens

over 1 year ago

i searched for RUS’ thread but the results have disappeared along with his profile :(

as the flames rose to her roman nose and her walkman started to melt…

Oxymoron

over 1 year ago

Ruby – these are the results from the previous polls. Unfortunately, I only have the top 10 for the RUS poll, as his list of results disappeared with the closing of his account (does anyone else have the top 20 from that list?). Also, there may be some ties with votes at the botton of both, which I am not aware.

Adam Cook’s 2009 The Auteurs poll top 20:
Citizen Kane
2001: A Space Odyssey
8 ½
The Rules of the Game
Seven Samurai
The 400 Blows
Vertigo
The Passion of Joan of Arc
The Godfather
Rashomon
Stalker
Taxi Driver
La Dolce Vita
Raging Bull
Apocalypse Now
Casablanca
Dr. Strangelove
Bicycle Thieves
Aguirre, the Wrath of God
Breathless

RUS’ Mubi Sight & Sound poll 2011 (top 10 only):
1. 2001: A Space Odyssey
2. 8 1/2
3. Persona
4. Vertigo
5. Mirror
6. Seven Samurai
7. Apocalypse Now
8. Citizen Kane
9. In the Mood For Love
10. Sunrise

As anyone can see, outside of The Passion of Joan of Arc – which was nearly in the final until she got burned – the current version is completely different.

ruby stevens

over 1 year ago

wow! these look like the list we started with! this was a great method as not a single one of those films remains. joan really hung on tho, gotta give her credit.

thx, oxy =D

Waterlo​o Sunset

over 1 year ago

yes, the fact that this list in no way resembles the sight & sound polls is a very good thing.

Oxymoron

over 1 year ago

In case anyone is curious, here’s what we started with in DiB’s poll, before films were voted off (a little more than 20, due to ties at the end):

Vertigo 40
Taxi Driver 38
2001: A Space Odyssey 37
The Mirror (Tarkovsky) 33
8 ½ 33
Seven Samurai 33
Sunrise 32
Apocalypse Now 32
Citizen Kane 31
The Godfather 30
Pierrot le Fou 30
The Godfather Part II 29
The Passion of Joan of Arc 29
The Rules of the Game 29
Pulp Fiction 27
Persona 27
The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly 27
Blade Runner 25
Playtime 25
Rear Window 25
Sansho the Bailiff 25
The Third Man 25
The Shining 25

Can Sansho hang in there? Otherwise, a totally different final result from where this started.

Jirin

over 1 year ago

Age Of The Earth +2
A Brighter Summer Day +2

Day of Wrath is a very weak film. I’d pick any other Dreyer I’ve seen over Day Of Wrath.

Quit whining and blaming every person in the world who doesn’t agree with you or has more than you for your own problems. There are people on this board from worse off countries than Greece and they don’t call somebody a fucking moron every third sentence.

Coheed 2.5

over 1 year ago

Sansho the Bailiff + 2
Shadows of Forgotten Ancestors + 2

The Third Part of the Night – 1
Celine and Julie Go Boating – 1

Jirin

over 1 year ago

@Oxymoron

It just so happens I posted the result of RUS’s poll on another message board.

1: (27 Votes)
2001: A Space Odyssey

2: (19 votes)
8 1/2
Persona

4: (17 Votes)
Vertigo

5: (16 Votes)
Mirror
Seven Samurai

7: (15 Votes)
Apocalypse Now
Citizen Kane
In the Mood For Love
Sunrise

11: (13 Votes)
The 400 Blows
The Rules of the Game
Stalker

14: (12 Votes)
The Passion of Joan of Arc

15: (10 Votes)
Mulholland Dr.
The Thin Red Line

17: (9 Votes)
Andrei Rublev
Pulp Fiction
Sansho the Bailiff

20: (8 Votes)
Chungking Express
Days of Heaven
The Decalogue
La Dolce Vita
Paris, Texas
Pierrot le fou
Playtime
Ran
Ugetsu

29: (7 Votes)
Aguirre, the Wrath of God
Casablanca
The Godfather
The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
Last Year at Marienbad
Ordet
Raging Bull
The Red Shoes
Sans soleil
Satantango
Taxi Driver
The Third Man
Three Colors: Blue
Tokyo Story

43: (6 Votes)
Barry Lyndon
Bicycle Thieves
Blade Runner
City Lights
The Double Life of Veronique
Dr. Strangelove
Goodfellas
Lawrence of Arabia
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
Once Upon a Time in the West
The Searchers
The Spirit of the Beehive
Werckmeister Harmonies
A Woman Under the Influence

Uli Cain, Cinefid​el¹³

over 1 year ago

Woman in the Dunes + 2
Sansho -1
Yeelen -1

ruby stevens

over 1 year ago

our attempt to kill our idols stymied by kenji’s sentimental attachment to sansho the bailiff :P

J/K kenji! we love you! ;)

Nathan M...

over 1 year ago

A Man Escaped +2
Sansho the Bailiff +2

Jeanne Dielmann, Quai du Commerce, 1080 Bruxelles -1
Charulata -1
Shadows of Forgotten Ancestors -1
3 Women -1

10/22

Kenji

over 1 year ago

@ Ruby, Really? I came home this evening expecting the worst but i’m feeling much better now, whatever happens, thank you kindly. hugs and kisses all round.

Jeff

over 1 year ago

The Cameraman +2
We Won’t Grow Old Together +2

Dan Bayer

over 1 year ago

+2 3 Women
+2 The Cameraman (Keaton)
-1 The Executioner
-1 Celine and Julie Go Boating
-1 Sansho the Bailiff (sorry, Mizoguchi!)
-1 Charulata (sorry, Ray!)

Walbert​o

over 1 year ago

Tie Xi Qu: West of the Tracks +2
A Brighter Summer Day +2

Oxymoron

over 1 year ago

Thanks, Jirin. Yours are the only version we now have…

a Smith

over 1 year ago

3 Women +
Woman in the Dunes +

Jerry Johnson

over 1 year ago

I would like to change all my + votes in this competition to Dazed and Confused.

Thanks.

Josh Hansen

over 1 year ago

Sansho the Bailiff +2
A Brighter Summer Day +2
Harakiri -1
Woman in the Dunes -1

Life of Oharu is my favorite Mizoguchi. I wish I would have supported it more . . . How about everyone else? Is it Sansho? Ugetsu maybe?

zvelf

over 1 year ago

A Brighter Summer Day +2
Celine and Julie Go Boating +2

3 Women -1
We Won’t Grow Old Together -1
Harakiri -1
Charulata -1

Sansho is my favorite Mizoguchi. That ending destroys me every time. It’s moved up an amazing net +19 this round so far and is in 4th place now according to my tally. Basically, the following films are locks for the top 20 now because their pointage is so far above the bottom 2 (10 points or more above):

A Brighter Summer Day
The Cameraman
Celine and Julie Go Boating
City of Pirates
Harakiri
A Man Escaped
Sansho the Bailiff
Shadows of Forgotten Ancestors
The Third Part of the Night
3 Women
We Won’t Grow Old Together
Woman in the Dunes

Voting for or against them only adjust their final positions. The rest of these have a chance of falling off, albeit slim for some:

The Age of the Earth
Charulata
The Cloud-Capped Star
Death in the Land of Encantos
The Executioner
Jeanne Dielman, Quai du Commerce, 1080 Bruxelles
Once upon a Time there was a Singing Blackbird
Tie Xi Qu: West of the Tracks

These two are currently in last place:

La Cienaga
Yeelen

DiB, thanks so much for putting the tremendous effort into this game that you did. Lesser mortals would have folded long ago. I know because I tried to keep a tally on about a dozen films at any given time (once some dropped I would add replacements to monitor) and that alone was time consuming. It was a lot of fun, and whatever the final tally, given the last 22, we will end up with a fabulous and eclectic final 20 that combines some great canon works with unsung films and some downright obscure works.

Santino

over 1 year ago

^people should support La Cienaga.

Just because people don’t think women should direct movies doesn’t mean an exception can’t be made here. If the Academy can do it, surely Mubi can. :)

Nathan M...

over 1 year ago

ZODIAC +2

NEVER FORGET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Varun Anisett​y

over 1 year ago

Sansho the Bailiff +2
The Cameraman (Keaton) +2

Polaris​DiB

over 1 year ago

“Life of Oharu is my favorite Mizoguchi. I wish I would have supported it more . . . How about everyone else? Is it Sansho? Ugetsu maybe?”

Ugetsu is by far my favorite Mizoguchi. So ghostly and ephemeral, surreal and emotional, love how its shot, love the stories, love the acting, love the contrast between the women and the men characters, every little bit of that movie I love to death. Sansho is a fine piece of work and I vote for it because I hold Mizoguchi in high regard, but it wasn’t a my-breath-taken-away-every-second movie like Ugetsu was for me.

And yes I never got an opportunity to vote for Ugetsu during this game. Oh well.

—PolarisDiB