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Artists moving to film from another medium

Ari

over 3 years ago

I’m curious about artists who move into filmmaking after establishing themselves in another art form. I guess my basic question is: What art form best prepares someone to make a film? On one hand, one could argue that writers (whether of plays or novels) have the best sense of narrative and drama, while theatre directors would be best adept at handling actors. On the other hand, one would expect photographers and painters to have the best visual sense.

Random examples off the top of my head (I included some who made the transition badly)

Writers: Passolini (poet and novelist), Paul Auster, Norman Mailer, Marguerite Duras

Playwrights: Preston Sturges, David Mamet, Martin McDunough,

Painting: Andy Warhol, Robert Longo, Julian Schnabel

Photographers: Larry Clark, Cindy Sherman, Gordon Parks, Stanley Kubrick

Theatre directors: Sam Mendes, Orson Welles, Elia Kazan, Mike Nichols

Clint

over 3 years ago

Fashion designer: Tom Ford

Gordon

over 3 years ago

Sculptor: Matthew Barney

Dennis Brian

over 3 years ago

Not to state the obvious but it seems that those who come to directing from the literary arts tend to make smart literate movies that are not particularly visual (Mamet for instance)

While photographers seem to have a visual sense with less emphasis on scripts.

Those who seem to know a little about both are the best of course. I do love Mailer as director, a strong visual sense and an ear for trashy yet real dialouge that most of these hipster directors would be jealous of

DownByL​aw

over 3 years ago

I wish Bob Fosse had made a bunch of his musicals into movies. His non-musical movies don’t stand out; “Cabaret” and “Sweet Charity” needed a bunch more musical numbers and less of everything else. He was a great choreographer and that is what he should have filmed.

Sam Mendes has a great visual sense for film even coming from stage.

Redrum4

over 3 years ago

Gilliam, from animation to film

Kubrick went from photography to documentaries, then to narrative films.

Personally I think the best directors have either come from a literary background ie-writing something, so they can understand how the narrative of the film works best, and how to write own movies (the two above both do).

gutfidd​le

over 3 years ago

Ousmane Sembene: novelist to filmmaker

gutfidd​le

over 3 years ago

dp

Sean John

over 3 years ago

Agnes Varda, photography. Allegedly saw about 10 films before she made La Pointe-Courte. Fucking disgusting.

Matt Parks

over 3 years ago

Kathryn Bigelow was a painter.

Alannah Marie

over 3 years ago

I’m not sure Agnes Varda’s limited exposure to cinema was that detrimental to her style. She still managed to be an integral part of a movement with a distinct film-making method all of her own, with her photography background contributing to the precision of her cinematography.

That being said, Maya Deren also came from the literary perspective and made some fabulously complex psychodramas before moving on to her more kinetic films.

janders​on

over 3 years ago

When reading the topic of this thread, one name jumped to mind: Pasolini. I’m glad you included him. For me, he’s not only an interesting case study due to the quality of his films—ok, so that’s just my opinion—but because his work, regardless of medium, seems to bleed together seamlessly. Granted, I’ve only dabbled in his poetry and fiction, I feel as though he’s one of few so prolific across mediums.

Another interesting topic to explore would be filmmakers who work directly with the creators of the text they are adapting. I know a lot of authors receive co-writer credits for screenplays, but I’m thinking more about those who actually get their feet wet. For instance, Hubert Selby Jr./Aronofsky on Requiem For A Dream. Just a thought.

Francis​co J. Torres

over 3 years ago

How about Steve Mcqueen? Hunger got rave reviews.

Ari

over 3 years ago

McQueen was a video artist before making Hunger, right? I guess that fits although I have a hard time understanding the difference between video art and experimental film.

I just thought of Miranda July as someone who transitioned from performance art to film. And I hated Me And You And Everyone We Know as much as I hate performance art!

@JANDERSON: Yeah, Pasolini really mastered multiple art forms. You can watch Teorema and then read the novel Teorema and it’s like you wrote, a completely seamless experience.

Mike Spence

over 3 years ago

Fellini was sort of a cartoonist before becoming a filmmaker.

Dimitri​s Psachos

over 3 years ago

Alain Robbe-Grillet from literature.

Frank Zappa from music.

Yukio Mishima from literature.

Dennis Brian

over 3 years ago

yoko ono

rod lurie was a film critic

bob dylan directed a film

prince directed two

dope fiend willy

over 3 years ago

Kurosawa was a painter.

Dimitri​s Psachos

over 3 years ago

oh, and how could i forget:

Peter Brook from theatre.

Pina Bausch from dance.

apursan​sar

over 3 years ago

Masaki Kobayashi was a painter as well, as “Kwaidan” brilliantly illustrates.

Frank P. Tomasul​o, Ph.D.

over 3 years ago

Nick Ray: Received a Taliesin Fellowship from Frank Lloyd Wright to study architecture. He also had a radio background, and directed one Broadway production, the Duke Ellington musical Beggar’s Holiday (1946).

Friedrich “Fritz” Christian Anton Lang: Attended the Technical University of Vienna, where he studied engineering but eventually switched to art. In 1910-13, he traveled through Europe, Africa, Asia, and the Pacific area. In 1913, he studied painting in Paris.

Vincente Minnelli:His first job was a window display designer. He later worked as a photographer, photographing actors from Chicago’s theater district. Started at the Chicago Theatre where he worked as a costume and set designer. He also worked on shows in New York City. He eventually became a set designer at Radio City Music Hall and worked his way up to stage director.

The first play Minnelli directed was a musical revue titled At Home Abroad (1935), starring Beatrice Lillie. He later worked on The Ziegfeld Follies and The Show Is On.

Dan Bayer

over 3 years ago

Julie Taymor, theatre director and designer before moving on to film

And don’t forget about all the actors who moved on to become directors, although not all come from a different medium from film.

And let’s not forget some more dubious filmmakers: Adam Shankman was a choreographer, Nora Ephron was a writer, etc. the list goes on and on…

Angelin​e Gragasi​n

over 3 years ago

Actors: Clint Eastwood, Charlie Chaplin

Angelin​e Gragasi​n

over 3 years ago

William Kentridge was an actor

Jean-Paul Goude was a photographer

Caleb

over 3 years ago

ben affleck. much much better director than he is an actor

Ari

over 3 years ago

Film actors wouldn’t count since they are not transitioning from another medium but transitioning roles within a medium (so ditto cinematographers, editors, screenwriters, etc. – although that would be an interesting thread to ask which of those roles best prepares someone to transition into becoming a filmmaker. I would probably say screenwriter).