I didn’t nominate La Ricotta, I nominated Che cosa sono les nuvole?
Ummm, if not Comrades (glad to know it’s there) then … hummm… oh I’ve got to go, Sorry, I owe you one more Brit and one more Frenchie, OK?. About two hours?
I’ll just match the criteria, Nothing Else. Rokurota’s list has many of my choices, but his list contains many movies from the IMDB Top 250:
1. Evil Dead (1981, Sam Raimi, USA)
2. Adaptation. (2002, Spike Jonze, USA)
3. Howl’s Moving Castle (2004, Hayao Miyazaki, Japan)
4. The Ladykillers (1955, Alexander Mackendrick, UK)
5. The Truman Show (1998, Peter Weir, USA)
6. After Life (1998, Hirokazu Koreeda, Japan)
7. JSA: Joint Security Area (2000, Chan-wook Park, S. Korea)
8. The Good, the Bad and the Werid (2009, Joon-ho Bong, S. Korea)
9. State of Siege (1972, Costa-Gavras, France)
10. The Wicker Man (1973, Robin Hardy, UK)
11. Braindead (1992, Peter Jackson, New Zealand)
12. Hero (2002, Yimou Zhang, Hong Kong)
13. 28 Days Later… (2002, Danny Boyle, UK)
14. [Rec] (2007, Jaume Balagueró, Paco Plaza, Spain)
15. Who can Kill a Child? (1976, Narciso Ibáñez Serrador, Spain)
16. The Son (2002, Dardenne Brothers, Belgium)
17. Cube (1997, Vincenzo Natali, Canada)
18. JCVD (2008, Mabrouk El Mechri, Belgium)
19, Shaolin Soccer (2001, Stephen Chow, Hong Kong)
20. The Maid (2009, Sebastián Silva, Chile)
Okay then, I’ve got 7 nominations.
Enter the Void, France, Gaspar Noe, 2009
Eureka, Japan, Shinji Aoyama, 2000
My Winnipeg, Canada, Guy Maddin, 2007
Silent Light, Mexico, Carlos Reygadas, 2007
Hunger, UK, Steve McQueen, 2008
Heima, Iceland, Dean Deblois, 2007
The Fountain, USA, Darren Aronofsky, 2006 (doesn’t stand a hope in hell at gettting in the final 100 but I love it so I’m still gonna nominate it)
Nice to see some people got to Innocence and All About Lily Chou-Chou before me. Also sorry about all my nominations being from the 21st century…
sorry jaime but you are wrong
none of my movies figure in the imdbtop250
not even brokeback mountain and watchmen…they used to figure some months ago but now not anymore
Damn, Memories of Murder is already there, I’ll replace it with:
The Good, the Bad and the Weird (2008, Joon-ho Bong, S. Korea)
nice choice with the good the bad and the weird….
but the director is ji-woon kim
I am not so sure about the jury votes. But something similar to that, I propose that people can challenge films that would be included in the final list. For example, I can challenge Film A and replace it with Film B by giving a review/comment/mini-essay/whatever about Film B and why it should be in the list instead of Film A in a separate thread: “Film B challenging Film A”. And users can either give a YES or a NO depending on whether whatever I wrote was convincing or not. If it gets more YES than NO, it’s in the list.
I guess the voting idea isn’t bad, but since this is about overlooked films I think there should be a limit to how many votes a film has on imdb, say like a film has to have no more than 5000 votes to be eligible.
I guess most people think the new idea’s better.
So I guess it’s my say on how people should vote for the films, bohahahahaha.
limit of giving
5 points- 3 times to 3 different films
2 points- 5 times to 5 different films
1 point- 10 times to 10 different films
limit of reducing
5 points- 2 times to 2 different films
2 points- 3 times to 3 different films
1 point- 5 times to 5 different films
You can vote for films you have already voted
2 films you haven’t seen but you think would be great for the list = instant 5 points for each
OR if you don’t agree with this,
2 more films you have seen (given that you need to give a review/mini-essay/comment, at least three long paragraphs, for each)= instant 5 points for each You cannot use a review that you have already made for The Auteurs. That’s laziness.
That gives a total of 30 votes for each user.
Prehaps we should just count the aggregate of all the votes? In fact they can be stars, so it’ll be like The Auteurs system but all the votes are internal – we know who voted what so no skewing.
I meant, you can vote for films you have nominated^ haha. I’m still half-asleep, I guess.
@ Law: How do you propose to go on about it?
Born to be Bad (Ray)
Borom Sarat (Sembene)
L’eden et après (Robbe-Grillet)
Identificazione di una donna (Antonioni)
Je t’aime, je t’aime (Resnais)
One Hamlet Less (Bene)
The Others (Santiago)
Le pont du nord (Rivette)
Pour la suite du monde (Perrault)
The Structure of Crystals (Zanussi)
Who Are You, Polly Maggoo? (Klein)
Le pont du nord (Rivette)
Excellent choice, Adam..
Rokurota: I would have posted Love Exposure too, but you got ahead, as well as with many of them. Hehe, also I tend to confound those tow directors, don’t really know why.
Free Radicals (Lye, UK)
Radio Dynamics (Fischinger, USA)
Film No. 3: Interwoven (Smith, USA)
Dimensions of Dialogue (Svankmajer, Czechoslovakia)
Hold Me While I’m Naked (Kuchar, USA)
I also think Out 1: Noli me tangere should be allowed if only Out 1: Spectre is ineligible. They’re as different as Rose Hobart and the Hollywood B-movie that provided the source material.
EDIT: Didn’t see that Kaurismaki’s Ariel was already nominated.
None of the cut’s of Touch of Evil are actually Welle’s final cut of the film. While Out 1:spectre and Out 1: Noli me Tangere are purposely two different cut’s with almost completely different narratives made by Rivette at his will. I don’t think they are at all comparable.
I’ll exchange my selection of the Puppetmaster for Marketa Lazarová if thats okay.
I Only Want You to Love Me (1976, Rainer Werner Fassbinder, West Germany)
Anatomy (2000, Stefan Ruzowitzky, Germany)
Wings of Hope (2000, Werner Herzog, Germany)
Aileen Wuornos: The Selling of a Serial Killer (1992, Nick Broomfield, UK)
49 Up (2005, Micheal Apted, UK)
Shivers (1975, David Cronenberg, Canada)
contre toute espérance (2007, Bernard Émond, Canada)
La face cachée de la lune (2003, Robert Lepage, Canada)
2 Days in Paris (2007, Julie Delpy, France)
36 fillette (1988, Catherine Breillat, France)
Gouttes d’eau sur pierres brûlantes (2000, François Ozon, France)
Safe (1995, Todd Haynes, US)
Making ‘The Shining’ (1980, Vivian Kubrick, US)
Multiple Maniacs (1970, John Waters, US)
The Adventures of Priscilla, Queen of the Desert (1994, Stephan Elliot, Australia)
The Quiet Earth (1985, Geoff Murphy, 1985)
Mondo Cane (1962, Paolo Cavara, Gualtiero Jacopetti, Italy)
The House by The Cemetery (1981, Lucio Fulci, Italy)
Turks Fruit (1973, Paul Verhoeven, Netherlands)
PVC-1 (2007, Spiros Stathoulopoulos, Colombia)
Great list and great username, Marc.
Safe is in the TSPDY list, though.
I’ll exchange it for Far From Heaven (2002), by the same awesome director.
Extra 6 if not already nominated
Judex (Georges Franju)
Picassos Aventyr (Tage Danielsson)
Hyènes (Djibril Diop Mambéty)
YOU TELL ME :)
Het Dak van den Walvis/On Top of the Whale (Raoul Ruiz)
The Limits of Control (Jim Jarmusch). No kidding!
FRENCH/ITALIAN BORDER (:p)
Dalla nube alla resistenza (Straub/Huillet)
And ok, this is how I plan to go on about it based on the suggestions.
The voting will take place in 3 months so anyone can vote whichever film whenever they please during that amount of time.
5 Stars = +2
4 Stars = +1
3 Stars = 0
2 Stars = -1
1 Star = -2
One can only vote for films one has seen. No need to be lying, there’s no point really.
One can also not vote for the films that one has nominated. I can easily check. Instead, one can write a mini-essay, review, argument, etc., at least 3-5 paragraphs, why the film they nominated should be included in the final list. And depending on whether it was convincing or not, others could say YES or NO, along with some comments about the original argument about the film. And if there are more YES’s than NO’s, that deserves +4 points. If otherwise, no points at all then. No point reusing a review about the film that you’ve made in The Auteurs. That’s just laziness. And one person can only do this a maximum of three times, no matter what the results are so if you got NO’s for each one, you can’t make another three more arguments again.
There is no limit as to how many films you plan to rate as long as you watched the film.
So, as soon as the voting period takes place, one can give points and deduct points to all the movies one has watched. Comments are also appreciated and also part of why we’re doing this. For example:
Film A: +1
Film B: 0
Film C: +2
Film D: -1
Film E: -2
Film F: -2
You get the idea.
The deadline for the submission of films will be on Tuesday, 12:01 am. if everything goes well.
I mean that votes for both versions were counted in the compilation, but a split between Out 1: Noli me tangere and Out 1: Spectre is fine with me. The host should decide.
1. Mort et Jardin, Luis Bunuel, 1956 Mexico
2.Pociag, Jerzy Kawalerowicz, 1959 Poland
3.Diamonds of the Night, Jan Nemec, 1964 Czechoslovakia
4. Fist In His Pocket, Marco Bellocchio, 1965 Italy
5.The Hunt, Carlos Saura, 1966 Spain
6.Martin Fierro, Leopoldo Torre-Nilsson, 1968 Argentina
7.Love, Karoly Makk, 1971 Hungary
8.Harder They Come, Perry Henzell 1972 Jamaica
9.Wishing Tree, Tengiz Abuladze 1976 USSR-Georgia
10.Unknown Soldier’s Patent Leather Shoes, Rangel Vulchanov 1979 Bulgaria
11.German Sisters, Margarethe Von Trotta 1981 West Germany
12.A Successful Man, Humberto Solas, 1985 Cuba
13.Black Rain, Shohei Imamura, 1989 Japan
14.East Palace, West Palace, Zhang Yuan 1996 China
15.Rose Seller, Victor Gaviria, 1998 Colombia
16.Whisky, Juan Pablo Rebella, Pablo Stoll, 2004 Uruguay
17.Times and the Wind, Reha Erdem, 2006 Turkey
18.Bothersome Man, Jens Lien, 2006 Norway
19.California Dreamin’, Christian Nemescu, 2007 Rumania
20.Better Things, Duane Hopkins, 2008 United Kingdom
Would like to nominates the following too:
Pyaasa, Guru Dutt, India, 1957
STREET ANGEL (Yuan Muzhi; 1937; China)
MALDONE (Jean Grémillon; 1928; France)
RIDE LONESOME (Budd Boetticher; 1959; Unites States)
FLOWING (Naruse Mikio; 1956; Japan)
I CAN’T SLEEP (Claire Denis; 1994; France)
DAYDREAMS (Yevgeni Bauer; 1915; Russia)
KHRUSTALYOV, MY CAR! (Aleksei German; 1998; Russia)
EROS PLUS MASSACRE (Yoshida Yoshishige; 1969; Japan)
BRICK AND MIRROR (Ebrahim Golestan; 1965; Iran)
THE CREMATOR (Juraj Herz; 1969; Czechoslovakia)
WE WON’T GROW OLD TOGETHER (Maurice Pialat; 1972; France)
THE OUTLAW AND HIS WIFE (Victor Sjöström; 1918; Sweden)
RECONSTRUCTION (Lucian Pintilie; 1968; Romania)
THE PLACE WITHOUT LIMITS (Arturo Ripstein; 1978; Mexico)
D’EST (Chantal Akerman; 1993; Belgium)
MOTHER JOAN OF THE ANGELS (Jerzy Kawalerowicz; 1961; Poland)
THE DESERT OF THE TARTARS (Valerio Zurlini; 1976; Italy)
DOOMED LOVE (Manoel de Oliveira; 1978; Portugal)
TRACK OF THE CAT (William Wellman; 1954; United States)
BLACK SNOW (Xie Fei; 1990; China)
Thanks for contributing this amazing list, Arsaib. I’ve just recently been watching Manoel de Oliveira´s “Francisca” and “The Day of Despair” which are also about Camilo Castelo Branco, and am going to check out “Doomed Love” next. Another film I’m definitely looking forward to is “Khrustalyov, my Car!”.
Tale Of Tales (Yuriy Norshteyn;Russian;1979)Camera Buff ( Krzysztof Kieślowski;Poland;1979)Voyage to Cythera (Theodoros Angelopoulos;Greece | Italy | UK | West Germany;1984)Vampires in Havana (Juan Padrón;Cuba | Spain | West Germany;1985)La Mansion de Araucaima (Mansion of Araucaima) (Carlos Mayolo;Colombia;1986)The Decline of the American Empire (Denys Arcand;Canada;1986)Confessing to Laura (Jaime Osorio Gómez;Colombia;1990)Rodrigo D: No Future (Victor Gaviria;Colombia;1990)Strawberry and Chocolate (Tomás Gutiérrez Alea | Juan Carlos Tabío;Cuba | Mexico | Spain | USA;1994)Thesis (Alejandro Amenábar;Spain;1996)Gummo (Harmony Korine;USA;1997)Caresses (Ventura Pons;Spain;1998)The Lovers Of The Arctic Circle ( Julio Medem;Spain;1998)A Chrysanthemum Bursts in Cinco Esquinas (Daniel Burman;Argentina | France | Brazil | Spain;1998)Samurai X: Trust & Betrayal (Kazuhiro Furuhashi;Japan;1999)The Iron Giant (Brad Bird;USA;1999)Loners (David Ondricek;Slovenia | Czech Republic;2000)Chaos and Desire (Manon Briand;Canada | France;2002)Winter Days (Kihachirō Kawamoto;Japan;2003)XXY (Lucía Puenzo;Argentina;2007)
I’ve already made a beyond the canon list: http://beyondthecanon.blogspot.com/2009/09/dane-benko.html
Here are the 10 I want to take from it to include for our poll:
1) Montenegro (Dusan Makavejev, 1981, Sweden)
2) Gozu (Takashi Miike, 2003, Japan)
3) Zardoz (John Boorman, 1974, UK)
4) Hair Extensions (Sion Sono, 2007, Japan)
5) Demonlover (Olivier Assayas, 2002, France)
6) I’m Not Scared (Gabrielle Salvatores, 2003, Italy)
7) The Pied Piper of Hamelin (Jiri Barta, 1985, Czechoslavakia)
8) MirrorMask (Dave McKean, 2005, UK)
9) More (Mark Osborne, 1998, US link: http://www.youtube.com/user/PolarisDiB#p/a/f/1/bRMfDbm7nFo If that doesn’t work, I can track it down)
10) Czech Dream (Vít Klusák & Filip Remunda, 2004, Czechoslavakia)
and 10 more from other lists:
11) Born in Flames (Lizzie Borden, 1993, US)
12) Frames of Reference (Richard Leacock, 1960, US links: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y75kEf8xLxI
If you haven’t seen these, it is magical—pay close attention to the actual camerawork and set design.)
13) Il Grido (Michelangelo Antonioni, 1957, Italy)
14) Atama yama (Koji Yamamura, 2002, Japan)
15) The Coast Guard (Chan-wook Park, 2002, Korea)
16) The Net (Lutz Dammbeck, 2003, Germany)
17) Waltz with Bashir (Ari Folman, 2008, Israel)
18) Robinson in Space (Patrick Keiller, 1997, UK)
19) Alice in the Cities (Wim Wenders, 1974, Germany)
20) Salvatore Giuliano (Francesco Rosi, 1962, Italy)