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Canonical Films by Non-canonical Directors

Ryan Boudino​t

over 3 years ago

This Is Spinal Tap is one of my favorite films, but I by no means consider Rob Reiner a canonical director. Anyone think of any other films that deserve to be canonized but their directors don’t?

FCat

over 3 years ago

That is a very interesting question; it supposes that a significant film work is the sole property of the director (the old auteur theory) that seems to be universally accepted as the only way to look at that work. I think ‘Goldfinger’ is a canonical work that fits your description as not being directed by a canonical director (Guy Hamilton); but I suggest part of it’s importance is due to the score which is by a canonical composer – John Barry.
But to add to the list by your criteria: STAR WARS (please don’t say Lucas id a canonical director!)
PLANET OF THE APES
CAPE FEAR (the original)

Matt Parks

about 3 years ago

Arthur Penn’s Bonnie and Clyde is really canonical in a way none of his other films are (Night Moves would be the closest of his others)
Easy Rider

witkacy

about 3 years ago

How about Charles Laughton? He directed only one feature, but the film’s canonical…

Morris Engel (The Little Fugitive)…Albert Lamorisse (The Red Balloon)…

Albert Brooks’ Lost In America is I think a canonical comedy; but he hasn’t otherwise made another film as strong as that.

JEFFY

about 3 years ago

The Shawshank Redemption

Kurt Walker

-moderator-
about 3 years ago

The Deer Hunter

Bob Stutsman

about 3 years ago

Casablanca by Michael Curtiz. Curtiz is an interesting case for this particular topic. Although he made a huge number of films, from early silents right through to late ’50’s, early ’60’s, few of his films would ever be considered more than just typical well-made films. Perhaps the only other films of his that immediately come to mind, after the classic Casablanca, would be Adventures of Robin Hood, Sea Wolf, Yankee Doodle Dandy, and Mildred Pierce. Curtiz worked well within the studio system – so well, in fact, that it would be difficult to place him as any kind of ‘auteur’. What is Curtiz’s style or signature? Basically, there isn’t any, except well-crafted, well-acted productions that most anyone in the studio system could have done. Directors like Howard Hawkes, Raoul Walsh, John Ford, even Victor Fleming had a definite style that one can discern in film after film. Curtiz could uncharitably be described as a kind of studio hack – give him anything, any hokey screen play or set of actors, and he will direct it. Sometimes it could be good, often it could be indifferent. Just after making Casablanca, he made Mission to Moscow – a laughable propaganda farce where Joe Stalin is portrayed as a good guy!

Yet, in spite of this, Casablanca stands as one of the greatest, most powerful, best acted, best scripted films of all time. It is not ‘artistic’ or particularly stylish, but it is a damn powerful film, even if most of us astute ‘cinephiles’ did not put it on our own top ten in the auteurs poll (bully for you if you did). Is it too entertaining and not arty enough for us? I can’t answer the question, but if ever a film belonged in this category, it is this one.

Rob

about 3 years ago

RepoMan

haha. just kidding.

Jay Leighty

about 3 years ago

The Third Man for sure. Carol Reed was a solid director but nowhere else does he approach the brilliance of that film. Also Seven Samurai. Great film but I can’t even remember who directed it. That guy must have been a one hit wonder.

Kifah Foutah

about 3 years ago

Battle of Algiers.

I fail to see how The Shawshank Redemption, or the Deer Hunter are canonical, other than the fact that they are popular.

dope fiend willy

about 3 years ago

Dances With Wolves

major tom

about 3 years ago

“Also Seven Samurai. Great film but I can’t even remember who directed it. That guy must have been a one hit wonder.”

WTF?!

Doesn´t work as a joke, either.

I would agree about Night of the Hunter as the canonical film by a non canonical director, but then, the Michael Curtiz explanation by Bob is gives an interesting contrast… if Night of the Hunter is the only film by Nauthon, then ALL of his opus is canonical, so should he.

In that regard, Irwin Kesnher has only one canonical film among mediocre crap; The Empire Strikes Back (it´s a pretty perfection of filmamking that goes beyond the Star Wars thing). Wolfgang Petersen´s Das Boot.

dope fiend willy

about 3 years ago

Das Boot is a masterpiece, among a string of not so masterful films.

Also, I would add:
Cabinet of Dr. Caligari
Song of Bernadette
Children of Paradise
The Bicycle Thief
On the Water Front
Julius Caesar
Rififi
Samurai III: Duel at Ganryu Island
The Ten Commandments
Lawrence of Arabia
McClintock!
Lillies of the Field
Becket
War and Peace
Kill!
The Lion in Winter
Patton
Chinatown
Siberiade
The Elephant Man
Mobile Suit Gundam
Ghandi
Heaven’s Gate
Wings of Honeamise
Akira
Field of Dreams
Unforgiven
Dances With Wolves
Farewell, My Concubine
Heat
The English Patient
Ronin
End of Evangelion
Himalaya
Gosford Park
Oh Brother, Where Art Thou
Amores Perros
The Bourne Identity
Master and Commander
Man on Fire
Passion of the CHRIST
300

Ben Hackwor​th

over 2 years ago

What are you saying about : The Elephant Man, Chinatown, Farewell, my concubine, Master and Commander, The Bicycle Thief…..? I am not sure what kind of thing you are trying to define. This all seems a little Aspergers to me. Who is the authority on this so called CANON of CANONICAL directors? MOMA? Theauteurs.com…? Sense of Cinema? This all seems a bit wanky and I would stick to top 10 lists if I were you.

Dennis Brian

over 2 years ago

I disagree about Aurthur Penn
He also directed Mickey One, The Missouri Breaks, Little Big Man and Alice’s Resturant, a terrific director.

I would add Nicholson, he only did three films as director Drive He Said, Goin South and The Two Jakes but they are great films

Law

over 2 years ago

Who cares?

apursan​sar

over 2 years ago

Who cares about 90 % of the threads?

Law

over 2 years ago

If the 90% includes STL!, I do. ):

apursan​sar

over 2 years ago

No, but it includes “Avatar Depression”… ):

Ben Hackwor​th

over 2 years ago

There is no cinema god who decides what is CANONICAL and WHAT IS NOT. This is a waste of time. Cinema is subjective. End of story.