José Luis Guerín (Unas fotos en la ciudad de Silvia): 1 —vs— Edwin (Dajang Soembi): 0
José Luis Guerín (Unas fotos en la ciudad de Silvia): 1 —vs— Edwin (Dajang Soembi): 0
I’m among those who prefer la ciudad, but unas fotos is still a remarkable achievement. Dajang Soembi is as strangely funny as one would expect from Edwin, but in my opinion it can’t compete with Guerín’s images of everyday beauty.
José Luis Guerín (Unas fotos en la ciudad de Silvia) – 0 vs Edwin (Dajang Soembi) – 1
Unas fotos is an interesting idea, and while I adore En la ciudad de Silvia, I can’t get behind Unas fotos in the same way. All of the fun in En la ciudad, and the play with depth and perspective, the tension of the boy pursuing the girl, the outstanding resolution on the streetcar, is lost for me in Unas fotos. It’s the only Guerín film that doesn’t work for me.
I’m a sucker for the visual aesthetic of Dajang Soembi, which is partly why I love Tren de sombras so much (or a lot of the films of Guy Maddin, for that matter). Make a film look a lot older than it is and I’ll watch it. This was short, engaging, and while I’m not exactly sure what to do with it after the first watch, a lot of fun.
Unas fotos en la ciudad de Silvia 1 – Dajang Soembi 0
Sorry about the confusion over which film I watched. What happened was, I watched the correct film, then I looked at my Netflix queue and saw a film called ‘In The City Of Silvia’. I then assumed it was the same film, and that that was the English title. So, I saw the correct film, and deleted the incorrect film from my Netflix queue.
Dajang Soembi has a certain appeal I can’t put my finger on. The same sort of appeal as Uncle Boonmee and Tropical Malady, which uses spirit mythology to highlight very primal emotions. But, I just liked Unas fotos a little more.
From Banban-gu:
José Luis Guerín (Unas fotos en la ciudad de Silvia) 1 vs Edwin (Dajang Soembi) 0
Here is Dajang Soembi:
José Luis Guerín (Unas fotos en la ciudad de Silvia): 1 —vs— Edwin (Dajang Soembi): 0
A no-brainer.
Unas Fotos en la Ciudad de Sylvia (Guerin) – 0 // Dajang Soembi (Edwin) – 1
I really did like Guerin’s film, which seems almost like a blueprint for his more well-known film (which I still haven’t seen, but I’ll definitely look into after the cup) and is delightfully wistful. I especially found powerful the moment when the camera follows a woman like any other and the narrator (Guerin?) imagines living his life with her, without even having seen her face. What seems so concrete in his mind at that moment dissipates at the very next, as she turns a corner and is gone.
Dajang Soembi is brilliant, though. Edwin’s shorts are so forceful, so evocative. Both dizzyingly surreal, but in very different ways. I like this match-up a lot, much more than Murnau/Winterbottom.
5-2 Guerin
I’m watching the JLG tonight, and will be back to vote.
José Luis Guerín (Unas fotos en la ciudad de Silvia): 1 —vs— Edwin (Dajang Soembi): 0
feel bad because I did not like either film but Guerin is more cinematic I suppose.
José Luis Guerín (Unas fotos en la ciudad de Silvia): 0 —vs— Edwin (Dajang Soembi): 1
Unas fotos en la ciudad de Silvia 1 — Dajang Soembi 0
While I enjoyed both films very much, this was an easy choice for me. In the last round, a major factor in my vote for Edwin stemmed from an experience I had last September, when I was entranced by a girl hula-hooping alone, in red light, on a dance floor. Oddly enough, last November when I was in Philadelphia, I had an experience on a train car where I saw a girl that I often think about time and time again. I can barely remember her face, but I remember her clothes, her legs, her hair, her hands, what she was doing, and how when we both exited the train I lost sight of her and saw her one more time, never to see her again. The story behind Unas fotos spoke directly to me and I fell in love with it. I viewed Edwin’s film first and thought it would be difficult to beat, especially given that I wasn’t too keen on the other Guerín film I’d seen in the cup, but as is the nature of these proceedings, I was taken by surprise.
Thank you to both managers for your choices!
Jose Luis Guerin (Unas fotos en la ciudad de Silvia) – 1 vs. Edwin (Dajang Soembi) – 0
José Luis Guerín (Unas fotos en la ciudad de Silvia) 1 vs Edwin (Dajang Soembi) 0
I enjoyed Unas fotos a lot more than I expected, but anything that combines Apichatpong with Caligari has to get my vote.
Unas fotos 0 – Dajang Soembi 1
9-4 Guerin
José Luis Guerín (Unas fotos en la ciudad de Silvia): 1 —vs— Edwin (Dajang Soembi): 0
José Luis Guerín (Unas fotos en la ciudad de Silvia) 1 — Edwin (Dajang Soembi) 0
José Luis Guerín (Unas fotos en la ciudad de Silvia): 1 —vs— Edwin (Dajang Soembi): 0
Jose luis guerin (unas fotos en la ciudad de Silvia): 0-vs-Edwin (Dajang Soembi) : 1
José Luis Guerín (Unas fotos en la ciudad de Silvia) 1 vs Edwin (Dajang Soembi) 0
It is a hard choice. I love them both, but I had to make a choice.
José Luis Guerín (Unas fotos en la ciudad de Silvia): 1 —vs— Edwin (Dajang Soembi): 0
José Luis Guerín (Unas fotos en la ciudad de Silvia) 1 vs Edwin (Dajang Soembi) 0
Though this is probably my favourite Edwin film, I think I that without any doubt or any remorse, my vote goes for Guerin once again. It was nice though to see Edwin and Guerin sharing their taste for old silent films, but I think that Guerin’s way in more subtle. Unas fotos is simply sublime, a poem.
Ahem, I am afraid I really didn’t like either film:( I do love films from both directors but alas not these.
Dajang Soembi felt a little forced and reminded me of a half arsed Marilyn Manson music video. This is the only Edwin film I haven’t like and after I saw this film I felt I had to watch Kara just to remind me how much I really love this director. Yuki has done a great job representing him considering many of us had not even heard of the guy.
The best thing I can say about Unas Fotos is at least it wasn’t as bad as In the City of Sylvia. Frankly watching loads of stills of middle class, uninteresting swiss dime bars really doesn’t do it for me!!! It reminded me of a cross between Akerman’s Hotel Monterrey and a Mills and Boon novel. I loved Train of Shadows and it is easily the best film I have seen in this competition, and how ironic that this is quite easily the worst….
Sorry for the negativity but I declined a night out to watch these and seriously I should have got pissed instead:)
Dajang Soembi 1 v Unas Fotos en la ciudad de Silvia 0
José Luis Guerín (Unas fotos en la ciudad de Silvia) 1 vs Edwin (Dajang Soembi) 0
I love the concept of Unas fotos en la ciudad de Silvia, and the film is incredibly beautiful, but I couldn’t help thinking while watching it that it was an incomplete film. Sound is something very important for me, and I like listening the films as much as watching them, so something was really missing for me.
Danjang Soebi was very beautiful, but I can’t say that I found the story to be interesting. I was really disappointed because the title made me hope for something else and in the end it was just not good.
I’ve voted for Edwin in his two previous match, but this time I have to admit that Guerín has the strongest film.
José Luis Guerín (Unas fotos en la ciudad de Silvia) 1 – Edwin (Dajang Soembi) 0
My vote goes to Guerín’s beautiful film, but I am pulling for Edwin to advance!
Unas fotos en la ciudad de Silvia 1 Dajang Soembi 0
José Luis Guerín (Unas fotos en la ciudad de Silvia) 1 – Edwin (Dajang Soembi) 0
José Luis Guerín (Unas fotos en la ciudad de Silvia) 1 vs Edwin (Dajang Soembi) 0
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