Directors' Cup: General Announcements Thread

Why no writeup? I’m sure many here would be interested in reading it.

I’m with Dimitris on this one. It’s his director, and if he drops out, so should the director.

But Dimitris, why are you so against the intro? You could use another persons and credit them if you don’t want to write your own.

as many managers had seen not seen their director’s films before the cup had begun.

Wait, is that really true, Brady?

If anything goes against the spirit of the competition, that’s it right there.

It’s actually a fairly reasonable request (especially as Nicoleascu won’t be allowed back for future competitions), but made sickening by Dimitris assumption that he and he alone of anyone on the Internet (besides persons from Romania) could possibly have any knowledge of Nicoleascu’s films.

No Mubians have stepped up claiming otherwise, so he happens to be right this time.

Of course it really doesn’t help that he’s been ’I’ll never take part in a Mubi Cup!‘, ’Right I’m taking part, ha ha ha!’ followed by ‘Ho ho ho, I’m dropping out a day before we start, screw you guys’.

So he’s right yes. But he also has a severe attitude problem.

^ I don’t accuse anyone’s behavior, so I pledge all to stop accusing mine.

Accuse my artistic knowledge or criticize it or whatever but please….stop making up stuff / assuming what my character is and looks and sounds like….if so, I’ll criticize yours and you won’t like it. I’ve done that many a-times in several occasions and I’ve always been the “bad guy”.

Public Service Announcement.

especially as Nicoleascu won’t be allowed back for future competitions

That’s debatable:

A: all directors are allowed in World Cup and (possible?) Genre Cups.

B: no film of his has been used yet. I think there was a rule last year, did so many rules change this time around and I didn’t notice it?

I know when I’m right by the way. I just wish I had read the rules on time.
To everyone: Believe what you want but don’t fucking judge characters and behaviors.

How about we just eschew Nicolaescu’s official introduction thread? Somebody just post the smz blurb in some thread somewhere and let’s have done with it. There’s no sense in getting hung up on rules and feuds when we could be just enjoying the man’s films.

I agree that if somebody else represented Nicolaescu they should have knowledge of Nicolaescu.

But, you do have knowledge of Nicolaescu. For somebody who’s always militant about getting people to acknowledge lesser known directors, you sure don’t want anybody to discover Nicolaescu unless they do it on your terms and your terms only.

At least substantiate why you don’t want to write an introduction thread. Or if you don’t want to, substantiate why you won’t just find what somebody else wrote about him and paste it. Or why you won’t tell anyone else what films you were going to play. I’d love to manage Wenders and other people have other directors they’d love to manage too, but we’re all interested in the director you chose. And you’re telling us “Nope, nope, I’m taking my ball and going home”.

You can’t quit at the last minute because you didn’t read the rules closely enough then ban anyone else from taking your director.

You know what? I’m willing to just waive the introduction requirement for Dim if it will put this to bed. I didn’t like the rule either, and this isn’t worth the controversy.

Here. Now let’s move on.

From SMz:

Sergiu Nicolaescu was born on the 13th of April 1930, in Targu-Jiu, Romania. In his childhood, he spent a lot of time at the cinema. He was inspired by the films he saw 2 or 3 times, and he played “war” or “mystery” games with 30 fellow kids in the suburbs of his native town. After finishing high school, Nicolaescu was accepted by three colleges. He finally attended the Romanian Marine Corps. His father was an engineer, he worked for King Michael. Therefore, after the King’s abdication in 1947, his father was arrested.

Nicolaescu entered the realm of cinematography by chance. A friend offered him a job in the Bucharest Studios of that time. He didn’t expect a career in directing, but his short poetic movie called Memoria trandafirului earned some attention at the 1962 Cannes Film Festival. In 1967,Dacii (1967) became the first Romanian hit-movie in Western Europe. Subsequently, Nicolaescu was internationally appreciated as a worthwhile historical films director.

He had the privilege to work in France, Germany and other countries on several projects in the seventies and eighties. He directed Mihai Viteazul (1970) and Atunci i-am condamnat pe toti la moarte (1972), two of the best Romanian movies ever. He also was responsible for such indigenous blockbusters as Nemuritorii (1974),Cu mîinile curate (1972),Noi, cei din linia întîi (1985) and Mircea (1989). Nea Marin miliardar (1981) is his only comedy to date. After the Romanian Revolution (1989), Nicolaescu became a political figure, but he continued to direct movies. Without the assistance of the military, he couldn’t complete as many epics as he did back in the Communist era. Oglinda (1993) and Triunghiul mortii (1999) were well-received at the box-office.

A “Steven Spielberg of the Romanian cinema”, Nicolaescu is a self-taught technician and, sometimes, an artist who approached various genres and themes. Indeed, most of his films have an evident commercial tinge, but despite new voices that question his talent, ethics or even his professionalism, Sergiu is still appreciated by most of the Romanian moviegoers.

IMDB Link: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0630197/

Filmography :

01. Memoria trandafirului (1962)
02. Scoicile nu au vorbit niciodata (1962) Shells Have Never Spoken
03. Primavara obisnuita (1962)
04. Lectie în infinit (1965) A Lesson in Infinity
05. Dacii (1967)
06. Ultimul Mohican (1968) The Last of the Mohicans
07. La prairie (1968) (TV) The Prairie
08. Kampf um Rom I (1968) (uncredited) Struggle for Rome
09. Kampf um Rom II – Der Verrat (1969) (uncredited) The Last Roman Part II
10. “Die Lederstrumpferzählungen” (3 episodes, 1969) The Leatherstocking Tales
11. Mihai Viteazul (1970) Michael the Brave
12. “Der Seewolf” (4 episodes, 1971) The Seawolf
13. Cu mîinile curate (1972)
14. Atunci i-am condamnat pe toti la moarte (1972) Then I Sentenced Them All to Death
15. Ultimul cartus (1973)
16. Un comisar acuza (1973)
17. Nemuritorii (1974)
18. Piratii din Pacific (1975) The Pirates of the Pacific
19. Insula comorilor (1975) Treasure Island
20. “Lockruf des Goldes” (4 episodes, 1975) Burning Daylight
21. Accident (1976)
22. Zile fierbinti (1976)
23. Osânda (1976) The Punishment
24. Razboiul independentei (1977)
25. Pentru patrie (1977)
26. Revansa (1978)
27. Ultima noapte de dragoste (1979)
28. Mihail, cîine de circ (1979)
29. Capcana mercenarilor (1980)
30. Duelul (1981)
31. Nea Marin miliardar (1981)
32. Intîlnirea (1982)
33. Wilhelm Cuceritorul (1982) William the Conqueror
34. Viraj periculos (1983)
35. Ziua Z (1985)
36. Ciuleandra (1985)
37. Noi, cei din linia întîi (1985)
38. Ringul (1985)
39. Cautatorii de aur (1986)
40. François Villon – Poetul vagabond (1987)
41. Mircea (1989)
42. Coroana de foc (1990)
43. Oglinda (1993) The Mirror
44. Punctul zero (1996) Cry of Redemption
45. Triunghiul mortii (1999)
46. Orient Express (2004)
47. 15 (2005)
48. Supravietuitorul (2008)
49. Carol I (2009)
50. Poker (2010/II)

^ that wont hold up in any court (:

leading the witness

I think we should postpone the start of the Director’s Cup until April. There’s controversy right now and 3 of the Bracket 1 films haven’t been uploaded yet, not to mention many others :/

Maybe postponing this a little bit is indeed necessary /:

Either postponing or shifting around of groups so the ones that have already been uploaded go first.

That’s a real pity regarding Nicolaescu, one of the directors I’ve been looking forward to most. I don’t quite understand Dimitris’ thread dilemma and also can’t recall a recent occasion when a thread he created got categorically destroyed by his opposition. I would definitely appreciate him sticking to the cup rule (especially given that Cecil sent us a confirmation PM at time) and helping us discover an underappreciated master with a rather extensive though obscure filmography.

You can’t quit at the last minute because you didn’t read the rules closely enough then ban anyone else from taking your director.

Yes I can. I’m not sure there’s a constitution rule against it?

But, you do have knowledge of Nicolaescu.

That’s also insulting. I’ve had knowledge of all 3 directors last time or else I wouldn’t have chosen any of them.

Somebody just post the smz blurb in some thread somewhere and let’s have done with it.

Someone would have to randomly pick his films then and that’s not how it goes.

I DON’T SEE WHAT’S SO BAD WITH SOMEONE CHOOSING WIM WENDERS OR FOLLOWING WHAT DENNIS REQUESTED….PROBLEM SOLVED!!!

I posted the intro. Let’s move on.

^ That’s also not how it goes. I’m not going to pick any films and no one else will.

I still don’t understand what’s so difficult for Cecil to place Wenders where Nicolaescu is. I don’t understand the problem…

I could say the same thing to you, Dimitris. Manage your director.

^ No, sorry….and if no Sanjuros want to believe me, I’m copy-pasting my response to Cecil after notifying me I was late for the “intro”:

i won’t make any such threads again Cecil. if you want me to walk away from the tournament because of that, it’s OK. but you’ll have to remove Nicolaescu too, i’m not giving him to anyone and i doubt any other non-Romanian user has seen his films like i have.

This should have ended in this message. No “orphaned” directors and no page delays.

Besides, the match is in group 12 and we still haven’t started yet (!!!) not to mention the as of yet nowhere to be found requested films (?)

Dimitris, I’m not gonna attack your character or anything. I simply have this to say: if you pull out of this tournament, then you officially lose your right to complain about how people don’t care about non-canon directors and all that stuff, because right now, the only person hindering the possibility of a greater knowledge of lesser-known filmmakers is you. If you refuse to manage Nicolaescu, then you are simply making it less likely for anyone to discover him, therefore making yourself the villain that you always complain about.

Fuck this back and forth.

The Nicolaescu match isn’t until mid-May anyhow, and we already have the first selection. I’d rather see Dimitris manage him, but a dedicated newly appointed manager can easily watch his available filmography by mid-May and do a reasonably good job of managing him.

So Dim, just manage the damn director. We’d all like that the best. But if you don’t want to, the tourney should go on with Nicolaescu being managed by another person.

the only person hindering the possibility of a greater knowledge of lesser-known filmmakers is you.

That’s irrelevant to this back and forth subject as Blue stated.

But if you don’t want to, the tourney should go on with Nicolaescu being managed by another person.

Only if they have seen a film or two prior to the DC. I pray this has happened to at least all of the chosen directors here.

Why can’t you people just choose Wenders? i don’t even remember who mentioned him, was it Jirin? I also recall Nino or someone else wanted Haneke and dropped him out?

Dimitris—as i said in my PM, you’ve chosen this path and as one who is looking forward to Nicolaescu’s films I hope he stays in the competition.

This is silly.

^ It’s not so difficult I repeat, NOT so difficult for another manager or for an already appointed manager to have a second choice to come forth with a new director. I see nothing problematic here and Cecil procrastinates as much as I refuse to manage ,y pick the "rules’ way. Hell, if I have to, I’ll support the person who chooses Wenders or Haneke to actually use Paris, Texas or Funny Games 3 times consecutively!!!!

Only if they have seen a film or two prior to the DC. I pray this has happened to at least all of the chosen directors here.

That doesn’t matter at all. See, we are all confident that you’ve chosen a great interesting director, And we are likewise confident in your film choice for round one as well. But nobody OWNS any of these directors. So the only thing that matters is whether or not there’s enough time for a dedicated manager to make informed selections for the later rounds. And with 7 weeks to go until the Nicolaescu match, that’s more than plenty of time.

I’ll support that ONLY if the replacement chooses Uve Boll.

^
^ Sorry Blue, I even accepted a manager / opponent to switch his film-pick by the time picks for Round 2 last year were already selected….I don’t see why can’t we “levitate” the rules a bit this year as we levitated and changed definitions of rules last time (and I’m not sure there’s any such rule that allows the NOT-AS-OF-YET COMPETITIVE director to be managed by someone else)

So this fuss keeps on going because of what….a chosen film? Really?

Hell, I’ll support the Uwe Boll choice too if that’s the case!

My mental projection is completely kicking your ass. All over the place. I hope you can feel it, even just a little.

Why is Nicolaescu a NOT-AS-OF-YET COMPETITIVE director? Doesn’t he yet have the required minimum of subtitled films available? That would be an understandable reason to drop him.

^ Competitive in the sense of “he hasn’t participated yet” in the competition, not in terms of available films.

shifting around of groups so the ones that have already been uploaded go first.

Question: Would people be alright with this? The thing is, we don’t seem to have anyone uploading films at the moment (it’s been at least a week since I got sent my most recent link…). If I was to switch groups I’d probably put Group 9 in Group 1s place seeing as all Group 9 films have been uploaded and one of them is a short film, though it’s only worth doing that if people are going to actually upload the films…