Directors' Cup Voting, Round 2, Match 1: Agnès Varda (Cleo From 5 to 7) vs Victor Erice (The Quince Tree Sun)

my love for agnes varda acted against my original opposition sir douglas@

I give you that. She is easy to love.

23-20 Sun

I love her for holding up that handwritten TheAuteurs sign at the Mubi rollout.

Just under 24 hours left, everybody.

Go Varda!

To be honest, I found Quince Tree Sun, though often delicate and insightful, to be ultimately slight—like a feature-length pet project. Most of what it has to say didn’t strike me as very distinct, and I’m not sure I can justify the 130 minute run time.

I agree with Duncan, I’m a little surprised at the scoreboard.

now why would some voters prefer a nice meditative study of the creative process over vardas open-ended modernism,cleo is merely an avatar for madam vardas psycho- geographic study of paris.some of the voters failed to appreciate the reasons behind cleos opaque personality.

What kind of conclusion is this? Why shouldn’t the reasons behind Antonio López García’s personailty be just as fascinating for a viewer? I don’t see how the appreciation of a certain film has anything to do with the failure to comprehend another film, and you seem to be rather projecting your own preference that you want everyone else to share.

I feel more open to a study of the creative process than to “vardas psycho-geographic study of paris”.

In my opinion, Erice’s study isn’t much of a docu-fiction, but a neo-essay instead in progress.

The match needs another bump too.

I hoping for more Cleo votes, but whatever happens, happens!!

Cleo from 5 to 7 (Agnès Varda) 0 – The Quince Tree Sun (Victor Erice)1

Cleo from 5 to 7 0 – The Quince Tree Sun 1

A good example of New Wave cinema,but nowhere near the top films of the movement,against one of the best films dealing with artistic process and the struggles of the artist.An easy vote.

enemy of god@ agnes varda was a member of the left bank school of filmmaking not the right-bank new wave!

the theoretical underpinning of the left bank school was based more on the tropes of french modernist fiction of the 50s and 60s then the cinephile influences that defined right bank filmmaking.

If it is still possible to vote:
Cleo from 5 to 7 1 – The Quince Tree Sun 0

Marc – yes, your vote counts, as we’ve got an hour and six minutes left. I’ve gone through and looked at the voting, it currently stands, through Marc’s vote, at 25 – 22, in favor of Erice.

VOTING IS CLOSED

25 – 22, in favor of the Quince Tree Sun. Congrats, Erice!

Why is Varda now holding up a sign that says F*ck the Auteurs? And why is Erice smiling?

LOL.

Although both directors deserved it, I think with Varda we’d be having more variety in terms of her abundant filmography. Still, congrats to Erice but with a VERY limited filmography…I find it very hard to believe he’ll march on to the finals.

I’m happy that at least one of my directors make it to round 3.Is Erice playing against Bartas in the next round??

Bartas vs Erice, that’s going to be some derby.

Will Erice surprise everyone with a short-film “bomb”? Will Bartas throw in yet another “silent” film?

Stay tuned folks :P

(is it me or is Cecil’s fixture decision of this round to instantly schedule the Round 3 matches?)

“is it me or is Cecil’s fixture decision of this round to instantly schedule the Round 3 matches?)”

great decision if so

despite the temporal and spatial manipulations of the quince tree sun it was still a documentary and as such the presentation of its protagonist was by necessity only surface deep, on the other hand the semiotic symbol that was the non character of cleo was able to refract and then reflect the whole of her society. the reason why i am returning to this now defunct match is to point out the internal contradictions inherent in opposing a documentary against a fiction film. there needs to be more intellectual rigor applied to the creation of these match-ups.

That would turn the directors cup into an intellectual exercise. The competitive films shouldn’t complement each other perfectly. Surprising combinations and match-ups is what makes the process interesting. It’s about discovering new films, not pigeonholing things into ready-made categories.

the directors cup does serve a useful pedagogic purpose but it also allows for instant prejudiced dismissal.

25 days ago i stated :the directors cup does serve a useful pedagogic purpose but it also allows for instant prejudiced dismissal: this has been borne out by these comments from shakha “I don’t want to judge Tarr based on a Shakespeare adaptation (I wouldn’t judge anybody based on a Shakespeare adaptation), but my first experience with him has been rather disappointing”.

Yet another one of my favorite films loses to a film I’ve never seen … I guess I have to watch all of their conquerors!