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Directors' Cup Voting, Round 3, Match 7: Werner Herzog (The Enigma of Kaspar Hauser) vs Lina Wertmüller (Love and Anarchy)

Adam Cook

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over 1 year ago

Yes, I’ll make a guarantee right now that I wouldn’t be using Scream of Stone.

Rissela​da

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over 1 year ago

I’ve never heard of that one, but if it is Herzog’s version of The Dark Wind then I won’t challenge you.

Ari

over 1 year ago

But you do seem to rate Invincible quite high on the Herzog pantheon – in my judgement, the worst film I’ve seen by him. Maybe you should go with that one. It could generate interesting discussion.

Eva Jean

over 1 year ago

Werner Herzog (The Enigma of Kaspar Hauser) — 1 vs Lina Wertmüller (Love and Anarchy) — 0

Sherloc​k Jr.

over 1 year ago

Werner Herzog/The Enigma of Kaspar Hauser 1 – Lina Wertmüller/Love and Anarchy 0

Malkin

over 1 year ago

The Enigma of Kaspar Hauser (Herzog) – 1 / Love and Anarchy (Wertmuller) – 0

What a matchup. I feel that I’d be voting for Wertmuller’s operatic character study over many Herzog films – I especially loved its wry sense of humour and Giancarlo Giannini’s moody acting – but this one in particular is out of this world. Here’s a man who grew up in a state of ignorance, dependance, and insensate bliss, so of course the real world presents all its flaws to him more easily than to anybody else; his problem, to borrow a phrase from Bresson’s film of the round, is seeing too clearly. And then that conclusion – the enigma solved? The sum of a complex life and a complex mind, a uniquely third-person outlook on humanity… an enlarged liver.

Mike Clayton

over 1 year ago

Werner Herzog/The Enigma of Kaspar Hauser 0 – Lina Wertmüller/Love and Anarchy 1

johnny

over 1 year ago

werner herzog the enigma of kaspar hauser- 1 love and anarchy- 0

Max S

over 1 year ago

Werner Herzog (The Enigma of Kaspar Hauser) 0 vs Lina Wertmüller (Love and Anarchy) 1

Matti K.

over 1 year ago

Werner Herzog (The Enigma of Kaspar Hauser) 1 vs Lina Wertmüller (Love and Anarchy) 0

Rissela​da

-moderator-
over 1 year ago

But you do seem to rate Invincible quite high on the Herzog pantheon – in my judgement, the worst film I’ve seen by him. Maybe you should go with that one. It could generate interesting discussion.

Please, no more dares of this kind!!

House of Leaves

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over 1 year ago

Has anyone seen Herzog’s Cave of Forgotten Dreams, in 3-D, no less? Review from twitchfilm.net.

“This History Channel funded Werner Herzog’s foray into 3D filmmaking is a pretty straightforward documentary. Only it’s in 3D. It is a rightful companion piece to Encounters at the End of the World where he explored otherworldly beauty of the world beneath the icy Antarctic Ocean. This time, it’s the Chauvet cave of Southern France, the home of 32,000 years old cave drawings. Pristinely preserved by landslide covering up the entrance, the exquisite charcoal drawings of lively animals- lions, wooly rhinos, horses and bison had been untouched by natural elements and humans alike until the 1990s.

“Just how he convinced French Cultural Ministry to give him the access for filming inside the fragile caves is a total mystery to me- another great addition to Herzog myth I’m sure. Armed with a custom made small 3D camera and with the crew of 3, he shows us under the dim, battery operated cold panel lights (because any other light will damage the delicate environment), the interior of the cave. The crystals glisten, unreal stalagmites and long extinct animal bones adorn the surroundings. But it’s the drawings on uneven contour of the walls that are truly breathtaking. If it were shot traditionally, Cave of the Forgotten Dreams would still be an interesting documentary. At first, this 3D project has an air of excess but after a while, it becomes a fitting, not too obtrusive addition. With the help of Ernst Reijseger’s gorgeous string arranged and choral score, Herzog lets you in the once in a lifetime experience in a truly unique way.

“Whether it was because of its confounding environment or limited resources for Herzog to go all out with his usual operatic visuals- he and his crew were only allowed on 2 feet wide tracks laid upon the surface and 4 hours a day maximum shooting time in the caves, the film is much more introspective. Perhaps it’s being in the presence of the transcending, awe-inspiring 30.000 year old charcoal drawings made a cerebral filmmaker like Herzog to turn spiritual? Or seeing god’s face in Quaker Oats container in My Son My Son, What Have Ye Done count as earlier indication?

“This little experiment (said to be the first and the last 3D film by him) confirms that Herzog does whatever he feels like, never following trend, but with astounding consistency. It fits within his body of work very smoothly. There are many Herzogian moments throughout the film to make diehard fans giggle- (un)intentionally hilarious interviews with kooky scientists and at one point, he says “mutant radioactive albino crocodiles” in his inimitable accent) and it’s intriguing enough to satisfy general movie going public.

“Cave of Forgotten Dreams is a center piece in this year’s Doc NYC and plays on November 3rd (7PM) at NYU Skirball Center. Werner Herzog will be present at Q & A afterward. He also gets a spotlight at the festival with 3 of his previous films. Click here for information and tickets

“Dustin Chang is a freelance writer. His opinions and musings of the world can be seen at www.dustinchang.com”

Sir Douglas

over 1 year ago

The Enigma of Kaspar Hauser – 0 vs. Love and Anarchy – 1

Dimitris’ crush on Giancarlo Giannini is infectious.

ralch

over 1 year ago

Giannini alone raised the film a couple of notches. It has other virtues, as well.

Jake La Motta

over 1 year ago

The Enigma of Kaspar Hauser 1 – Love & Anarchy 0

Sir Douglas

over 1 year ago

Has any other actor appeared in three or more Cup films?

Edit: I forgot about Woody. My brain was trying to block him out.

Rich Uncle Skeleton

over 1 year ago

The Enigma of Kaspar Hauser – 0 vs. Love and Anarchy – 1

HARP!!!

I’m not quite sure yet which film I prefer (it’s a very, very close match for me qualitywise) so I’m gonna vote for the one that had a harp in it. Let this be a lesson for all those films out there where we don’t see any harps.

apursan​sar

over 1 year ago

I think that I will manage Harpo Marx in next year’s cup to assure Cecil’s vote. ;)

Rich Uncle Skeleton

over 1 year ago

Herzog (The Enigma of Kaspar Hauser) – 0 vs. Wertmüller (Love and Anarchy) – 1

Pedja

over 1 year ago

Herzog (The Enigma of Kaspar Hauser) – 0 vs. Wertmüller (Love and Anarchy) – 1

twodead​magpies

over 1 year ago

well. i have a new crush from this cup…but giancarlo’s startled weasel hair, beard and kitten vs the tree frog. hmmm

Werner Herzog (The Enigma of Kaspar Hauser) 1 – Lina Wertmüller (Love and Anarchy) 0

Rich Uncle Skeleton

over 1 year ago

I’ll be giving this another couple hours extension for all those that haven’t been able to vote due to the extended downtime (it went on a lot longer than expected. I’m sure both managers understand.

Cat

over 1 year ago

Werner Herzog (The Enigma of Kaspar Hauser) 0 – Lina Wertmüller (Love and Anarchy) 1

Rich Uncle Skeleton

over 1 year ago

So this will finish at 4am BST (3am GMT). Obviously someone else will need to close it as I’ll be asleep…

Rich Uncle Skeleton

over 1 year ago

23-15 Herzog, if I’m not mistaken

Max painter

over 1 year ago

Werner Herzog (The Enigma of Kaspar Hauser) 0 vs. Lina Wertmüller (Love and Anarchy) 1

ShaKha

over 1 year ago

This match is officially over!

Werner Herzog wins 23-16 and moves on to face the winner of Vlacil/Rocha