They have this same argument floating around on Facebook.
I think if you really don’t like something, the best response is to ignore it.
For the stuff out there that’s incredible and worth your time, making a note of it is okay. But why go out of your way to articulate what you dislike?
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You can always just give it a low rating. As for “I don’t want to watch this”, well, noone has to know that, just don’t watch it.
TRANSFORMERS 2. Wont watch it. Hated first one. I’m really going out on a limb here…
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I don’t believe in that sort of passivity. I believe in quality control. It’s only through dissatisfaction that progress is achieved.
Quality control leads to nice safe films which pander to everyone and are instantly forgettable. Hollywood’s full of quality control. That’s why we have sites like the Auteurs to lead us towards films we might not otherwise know about.
Seeing that a movie “nobody’s” ever heard of actually has several fans is a nice, positive way to tempt me into spending a few dollars on something I might otherwise avoid.
And really, I don’t care how many people dislike a film. I come here looking for films I’ve never heard of, and especially films which aren’t nice safe ‘crowd-pleasers’. The majority of the films here didn’t make billions at the box office and you can safely assume there’s a large population of film-goers who scream murder if their forced to think during a movie. Not to mention the other large crowd of haters that rate a movie as ‘bad’ because it upset their social/religious/lifestyle principles.
If I watch it and don’t like it, then I can head to the forums where there’s no shortage of ‘hated it/loved it’ arguments going on.
How does quality control lead to nice safe films?
And why is there so much hatred for crowd-pleasers? A film shouldn’t be rated by its ticket-sales, that includes if it sold a lot.
Films that sell lots of tickets aren’t necessarily crowd pleasers. The latter “Star Wars” trilogy actually disappointed a lot of people. A film can shift a lot of tickets in the first two weeks, and even if the feedback is negative, there’s a curiosity factor that drives people to the cinema, anyway.
I haven’t seen “Juno” and really, the first preview (trailer) I saw made it look terrible. All of that ebonics crap in the phone conversation between Juno and her friend, plus why do we have JASON BATEMAN in a film in the 21st century? Whatever happened to Justine? If you’re going to do a pregnancy drama, come correct or don’t bother. Films like this, I’d see for free or part of a double bill with a film I really want to see anyway, but no way am I paying for it alone.
If there’s going to be a “dislike” button, then I want a “neutral” button too.
I don’t think there’s a point. Everyone knows Juno was an awful film. It’s got a one star overall rating. Isn’t that enough dislike enough? I don’t see how it could be worse than a one star rating with the likes of a Michael Bay film, or Uwe Boll.
I honestly think that the negativity on this site is always substantially higher than most would like. I don’t see this helping much.
“If there’s going to be a “dislike” button, then I want a “neutral” button too.”
Hahaha, yes!
“I don’t think there’s a point. Everyone knows Juno was an awful film. It’s got a one star overall rating. Isn’t that enough dislike enough? I don’t see how it could be worse than a one star rating with the likes of a Michael Bay film, or Uwe Boll.”
The over all rating does not define what everyone thinks. By your standards, since Avatar made the most money of all time, it might just actually be the best movie of all time. Popularity, among movies generally loved on this site, and among the general public, doesn’t equal quality necessarily.
there are too many horrible films out there why pick on Juno? I guess its popularity is really getting to people…
I enjoyed Juno, do your worst.
“The over all rating does not define what everyone thinks. By your standards, since Avatar made the most money of all time, it might just actually be the best movie of all time. Popularity, among movies generally loved on this site, and among the general public, doesn’t equal quality necessarily.”
No, that’s not what I was saying. Avatar has like two or three stars on this site, and what’s keeping it from one star may be populism but it’s certainly not rated as a great film by the overall rating system. It seems like a Neutral, Fan, and Dislike button would really just be the same as giving a film three stars (Neutral), four or five (generally fan), or two or one stars (generally dislike).
A dislike/like system would be the same as the star rating system on this site.
I get where you are coming from, I wasn’t trying to attack you or anything. I just think that enough people are already vocal enough concerning their dislikes lol.
That’s very true, but I think a film like Juno is a rare exception in that it has so many visercal reactions to it, absolutely hating it (myself included).
Most other films have less passionate hate behind it. (maybe this would all be fixed if we just took Juno off the site, or removed the stars rating with – SO AWFUL DON’T EVEN BOTHER RATING IT. Maybe that’d work better than a “dislike button”)?
What about the possibility of a 0 star rating?
Juno is an interesting film to me because it’s the kind of flick that would have just played in indie theatres during the mid 90’s but now it’s mainstream. Personally i think Wes Anderson is to blame for this development to a large extent, since he popularised this style of film making, but Juno wasn’t really that bad. It didn’t ring completely true, and some of the characters were annoying, but it has its moments, despite being watered down.
^^By that i didn’t mean to say that Juno is a clone of Anderson’s work or that Anderson is bad necessarily’; after all, i do like Rushmore, if nothing else. But overall this kind of ‘hip’ film making with unconventional characters and light indie folk soundtrack is played out beyond belief. Perhaps it’s not fair to blame Anderson, because his ambitions are higher than this, and if films like Juno resemble his work, it’s in a purely caricatured way.
So yeah, i don’t want to offend any Anderson fans basically. I’m not really huge on him, but he does have his own style, for better or worse.
I like the adults in JUNO, just not the kids. I think the dialogue for the kids was way too polished. We wish teenagers talked so well. They don’t.
“Dislike” promotes negativity, which isn’t what this community represents. Much like Vimeo versus YouTube. Vimeo simply has a “Like” button while users can “Dislike” on YouTube. Vimeo is full of positive people, YouTube is a giant mess.
I’m looking at the username “EAT SHIT AND DIE, EFE” and I thinking that the meaning of “Eat Shit and Die” changes drastically whether or not you throw a comma in. It’s either a crude command or a nihilist’s distillation of the life experience.
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We a get a ‘Become a fan’ option. We get a ‘I want to watch this’ option. We should, but don’t, get a ‘I Don’t Want to watch this’ option; a ‘I hate this film’ option.
People are defined as much by their dislikes as by their likes. Agree, or disagree? Discuss?