does mubi have an anti pop culture attitude?

obviously the database is filled with a variety of films from all cultures however i get the impression many mainstream films are frowned upon

what is your opinion?

Pop culture is a bad thing. It’s wonderful to be able to come to a place where the main discussion isn’t Kim Kardashian’s ass and Michael Bay’s… uhh… ass.

My only regret on this site is discussion has gotten increasingly more mainstream, not less so.

I certainly hope so!

Yeah sure. Why not.

so what is wrong with liking the same films as the majority of people?

so what is wrong with liking the same films as the majority of people?

Then how can you be special?

Oh, I can see the flame-baiting in this thread a mile away…

so what is wrong with liking the same films as the majority of people?

The same thing wrong with liking the same music as the majority, the same TV shows, the same celebrities… concerning yourself with only what the media tells you care about is destructive. If we truly love films we should look deeper than just simplistic mind-deadening entertainment.

Have fun with your firefight guys.

Pop culture is a terrible thing. Though Kim Kardashian has a lovely ass.

Edit-Well wait, pop culture does have a place…

i feel i can appreciate any mainstream film as much as any rare unknown film and don’t understand an anti pop culture attitude

really though i am talking about films not kim kardashian or the simpsons

good luck L2S!!!!!!!!!

Oh, films, like the pop-culture works of Johnny Knoxville and Paris Hilton? Yeah, those suck too.

It is true that some people allow themselves to be ignorant of quality art as it exists in the mainstream, merely because it is a product of the mainstream/pop culture. However, it does, of course, happen to be the case that there is very little quality art in the mainstream.

So, this act of rejection is good for the most part, but should not function as an all-shading rule, lest one preclude themselves from appreciating and communing with all the art they could be otherwise.

What you are asking is what is called a leading question: you are building your implied answer into the query itself, so that any answer given will automatically sound defensive.

The Auteurs (as we used to be called….) is a site that deals with great films and great film makers from around the world.
The selection offered by Criterion in itself should be an indication of intent: it’s about the better-quality filmmaking, cinema if you wish, not primarily about the latest mainstream pop hit, although some of them get mentioned along the way.

With that comes a more critical and aware outlook where the benefit of having seen a lot of the true masterpieces made in the past 100 years results in a better ability to look through mediocre or conveyor-belt filmmaking and not only not like it but have a well-reasoned opinion as to why it doesn’t measure up.
Calling a film a ‘mass-market product" is simply to call a spade a spade. Spielberg’s films fit that category. Those of Tarr do not (although I am sure he would love to have them be commercial successes as well as critical ones.)

Some of the newer sci-fi and fantasy epics can be fun to watch, no problem there. I also love 60es Corman b-movies and Hammer horror as much as anyone.
I think I have a reasonable idea where these works fit in film history, as do many others who come here. Not a good or bad thing, just the reality of what these works are. The same applies to any new mainstream releases.

Other film sites will discuss movies, but some of it is along the lines of some commercial hit being “totally awesome” and “the greatest movie ever”….very little critical/historical perspective, if any.

That’s what is precious about this site: a collection of people who want to really know cinema, who contribute their love and understanding and who want to experience films from all over, to gain a bigger perspective on what constitutes great film.

If this means that “Kick-Ass” and its ilk get less than stellar reviews here, so be it. A little cantankerousness is a good thing. On many occations, more mainstream fare has been debated with balance, so it’s not all black-and-white.

Finding opinions about cinema on the web is no problem.
Finding smart, well-reasoned opinions with perspective is much more difficult.
That is why I keep coming here.

1. I don’t have anti-pop/anti-mainstream attitude—i.e., I do like American mainstream films. So in this way I’m not “anti-pop.”

2. On the other hand, a lot of American mainstream films are crappy. I like some of these films, but many of them, I do not. I am not happy with the fact that many American mainstream films are bad. I could complain about many things, and in this way one could say that I’m anti-pop—or at least I have sentiments that veer close to that.

3. Now there are some who think that a mainstream film can ever be any good—essentially all of them are bad or at least not art. (Given #1, I’m not in that camp.)

My feeling is that many people fall into #2 and #3—and there are some (a lot of posters that I enjoy talking to) that also fall into #1.

Not sure if that answers the question, but there you go.

I’m pretty sure mubi is anti-movie.

what, all pop culture?

Here’s the way I see it.

There are good mainstream films, which people see.

There are bad mainstream films, which people see.

There are good art films, which people see.

There are bad art films, which nobody sees.

So, people bash the bad mainstream films, and nobody talks about the bad art films, because frankly, nobody cares. This creates the impression of a general attitude against pop culture.

Though, yes, nobody here cares who Jennifer Aniston is dating or what brand lipstick Kim Kardashian uses. Which is a very good thing.

Though, yes, nobody here cares who Jennifer Aniston is dating or what brand lipstick Kim Kardashian uses. Which is a very good thing.

Whoa there, whoa there. I have a flow chart in my house on who Jen Aniston is dating at ALL TIMES.

Recent mainstream mubees I liked:

Star Trek
Scott Pilgrim
Shawn of the Dead
Buried
Black Swan
The Social Network

I said ‘liked’.

I said ‘liked’.

Thank goodness, otherwise the elitist secret police were going to stop by and ask to see your papers:)

Been awhile since anyone’s tried to lift my skirt around here (that’s where I keep my papers), especially since I don’t hide my love of the B.

But yeah, that’s pretty much why I said it. Didn’t want to get ‘theatrically profiled’.

Speaking of pop culture, watch this. And let it play past the minute mark.

Trust me. All is not as it seems…

HAHAHA ^ i would probably watch this. i also enjoyed enchanted. amy adams is adorable

This trailer is chaos, and I love it. Once you’ve seen the trailer we can discuss the underlying film (which is a continuation of films that are ALL about chaos(.

I don’t understand the point you’re trying to make, Like2Sleep.

It’s a little like going into a screening of the new Pirates of the Caribbean 3-D flick and screaming, “Why can’t you people also appreciate Tarkovsky’s Stalker???!!!”

“Though, yes, nobody here cares who Jennifer Aniston is dating or what brand lipstick Kim Kardashian uses. Which is a very good thing.”

And which has nothing to do with films anyway, dammit!

“It’s a little like going into a screening of the new Pirates of the Caribbean 3-D flick and screaming, ‘Why can’t you people also appreciate Tarkovsky’s Stalker???!!!’”

Blue, I DARE you to do this.

MUBIans traditionally hate everything that isn’t The Tree of Life, so I’ll bite.

Yes, we hate pop culture, too. Except Brad Pitt!!