cooking, dance and photography existed before film, yes????
you mean theatre, yes? AND comedy and puppetry and ventriloquism and street performance AND shadow theatre
(mind you all these existed BEFORE CINEMA)
music – backstreet boys
painting – thomas kincaid
drama – neil simon
sculpture – Mike Spence in 5th grade
poetry – leonard nimoy
literature – jackie collins
film – Distaster movie
Comic – Jimmy Corrigan
This first book from Chicago author Chris Ware is a pleasantly-decorated view at a lonely and emotionally-impaired “everyman” (Jimmy Corrigan, the Smartest Kid on Earth), who is provided, at age 36, the opportunity to meet his father for the first time. An improvisatory romance which gingerly deports itself between 1890’s Chicago and 1980’s small town Michigan, the reader is helped along by thousands of colored illustrations and diagrams, which, when read rapidly in sequence, provide a convincing illusion of life and movement. The bulk of the work is supported by fold-out instructions, an index, paper cut-outs, and a brief apology, all of which concrete to form a rich portrait of a man stunted by a paralyzing fear of being disliked.
“Ware may be the best cartoonist of his generation, and Jimmy Corrigan, seven years in the making, is his masterpiece.” Men’s Journal
“In Ware’s 380-page graphic novella, studded with small, precise panels that regularly expand to reveal stunning draftmanship, Jimmy’s inability to interact with the world makes for a humorous tragedy worthy of comparison to Ivan Goncharov’s novel Oblomo, (about a man who cannot find a reason to get out of bed)…Jimmy Corrigan is thrilling, moving, profoundly sympathetic — and it is the most beautiful-looking book of the year. A+” Ken Tucker, Entertainment Weekly
“Graphically inventive, wonderfully realized. . . [Jimmy Corrigan] is wonderfully illustrated in full color, and Ware’s spare, iconic drawing style can render vivid architectural complexity or movingly capture the stark despondency of an unloved child.” Publishers Weekly
“Jimmy Corrigan pushes the form of comics into unexpected formal and emotional territory.” Chicago Tribune
“This haunting and unshakable book will change the way you look at your world.” Time
All artistic mediums are equal. All that matters is what the artist create upon the blank slate.
You can’t just call anything an art.
I could call tree climbing an art, but it doesn’t make it so.
The only thing women are good for is ironing my shirts in the morning.
“You can’t just call anything an art.”
sure thing but to erase dance and theatre just like that means you know shit about Art…sorry.
mike what is wrong with Neil Simon
He was Woody Allen before Woody Allen
fun is fun but neil simon is a master playwrite.
you might as well make fun of miller or mailer
You can call any artform an art. You can also call any utensil a utensil. Should we begin with verbs or do you still need further help on nouns?
I don’t know why people even bother to argue with a troll like Jason.
dont u get some kind of rubies or something if u win an argument with a troll
I included theatre under ‘drama’
You can’t erase parts of my post in order to make you point more salient.
Dance…whatever. If you want to put dance alongside painting, sculpture, and music; then go for it.
I would put dance on the next rung down, alongside architecture and videogames
“mike what is wrong with Neil Simon
He was Woody Allen before Woody Allen"
That’s what’s wrong with him:) Seriously though, I was just looking for a fairly weak dramatist and he kind of fit the bill.
you either have the most elevated sense of drama ever or u get yr authors mixed up
my only advice is read the man.
“I would put dance on the next rung down, alongside architecture and videogames”
Lol, I stand corrected, maybe trolling is an art. Great entertainment at least Jason, thanks.
I wish I can be as entertained by Jason’s thin act.
Now, lets get back to the women filmmakers. You guys really derailed this thread when you disagreed with my fine assertions, and I take no credit for this thread ending up the way it has.
I think the entertainment is all of us getting bent out of shape when he doesn’t even believe what he’s saying. Not really my idea of any kind of profound entertainment but that last line was good for a hearty chuckle.
It’s only funny and entertaining if he actually believes what he says.
Yes, you may be right, which is why I’ve suddenly become bored and am going to bed. Good night to all.
Now, don’t get it twisted, Mike. I stand firm behind everything that I have said.
Now, that said, I have not seen every movie ever made, and I would love to stand corrected when I get around to watching all of the many films by the many filmmakers mentioned in this thread and the other one.
Maya Deren’s “Meshes in the Afternoon” is quite lyrical, but its short. That would be find if she made a hundred of such pieces, but I need more to sink my teeth into, and a lot of this stuff is hard to find outside of youtube.
HAHAHAHA, wow, you’re so delusional my lad if you think videogames are on the same league of architecture and dance, hahahaha.
unless you think dance is more “feminine” you poor fool.
sorry, theatre is officially theatre, at least here in my country.
Other people tend to watch a certain amount films first, and then have an opinion, Jason. And even then being an absolutist is rather ridiculous. To make claims like no female director has been able to come close to the achievements of a particular painter without having seen even a small portion of the international output makes your statement completely irrelevant, and to stand firm behind it nevertheless is just another proof of the maladies of internet forums. Please come back to this forum as soon as you have something to build your opinion upon, but stop bothering us with unjustified ideas that come to your mind.
I think Jason is setting a high bar for greatness- separating the titanic from mere (even outstanding) excellence. Let women have the same clout as men in cinema worldwide- never mind reversing the gender power balance- and we shall see what will come of it, but anyway judgements on artistic achievement are subjective.
What is going on here? People have come on to spout mainstream feminist dogma and didn’t even recommend any female directors! Do you even care about cinema? I wan’t to know some good female directors – that’s all. From what I know about art – most good artists are men! This seems self-evident, I guess you’d have to goto Univeristy to ‘realize’ the opposite. Now I’m not so much interested in the reasons why there’s less women. It could be a result of culture or could be biological or evolutionary or psychological or something. But to say it’s obviously a result of sexism is quite arrogant. It stinks of 5th rate social contructivism, which is probably what you learnt at school, maybe even in a women’s studies program (gasp). I’m not making any claims about women filmmakers. I’ve been interested in film for a number of years and haven’t come across a women I’d call a favorite. This doesn’t mean I’m sexist, though. Like I said, I’ve enjoyed some female directors, just none that I’ve fallen in love with. That’s why I’m here. To find some. But if we are going to pretend like women have made huge waves in the art of movie making, or just about any artform, because if we don’t it means we don’t like them, then we’re in pretty bad shape.
Elston; try my list “Favourite Films by Women” in the Lists section for a number of possibles to explore
“But if we are going to pretend like women have made huge waves in the art of movie making, or just about any artform, because if we don’t it means we don’t like them, then we’re in pretty bad shape.”
it means your notion is Western fascism and you’ve been brought up to distinct Leonardo and Shakespeare and Welles and every other fuckin’ male bastard as superior artistic creatures….sorry, they’re not…
ONE PERFECT FEMALE ARTIST LIKE SHIKIBU AND GONCHAROVA CAN EQUAL 100 MALE ARTISTS.
enough with those conservative attitudes.
I didn’t see a mention of Andrea Arnold, yet. She’s directed two well-regarded films: Red Road (2006) which won the Jury Prize at Cannes, and Fish Tank, which won the same prize in 2009, as well as the BAFTA award for Best British film in 2010.
No, I just like art (good art especially). But that’s an interesting perspective. Admiring Da Vinici & Shakespeare means you’re a facist. In my experience, Marxists and Feminists have a poor understanding and appreciation of art because they look at things thru such a narrow ideoligical lense. But then again, art is good as long as it makes you feel good. So if Shakespeare, or Goeth, or Kafka doesn’t do it for you, but some bull-dyke really gets you there – then that’s all that matters. But calling someone a facist based on 1 thing they said is a little much. Your own intolerence comes off a bit fascistic actually (maybe it’s just the caps).
I appreciate the recs. Kenji and will likely check some of them out soon.
Leaving out the animators, and those mainly known for their work in front of the camera, here are the names I can think of on the fly. I haven’t looked at all the preceding entries yet, to see if any of mine are getting named here first (! That would be shocking, as this is page 5 now)
Adds up to 29, to answer the question.
Leni Riefenstahl, Agnes Varda, Lina Wertmuller, Joan Micklin Silver, Agnieskza Holland, Sally Potter, Norma Bailey, Jane Campion, Léa Pool, Mira Nair, Joyce Wieland, Vera Belmont, Maya Deren, Deepa Mehta, Alanis Obomsawin, Bonnie Sherr Klein, Patricia Rozema, Manon Briand, Anne Wheeler, Nora Ephron, Barbra Streisand, Catherine Breillat, Anne-Claire Poirier, Lynne Ramsay, Cynthia Scott, Micheline Lanctôt, Lone Scherfig, Miranda July, Nell Shipman. …
Okay, that’s the list , more or less off the top of my head. I am sure I have missed many, including some that I myself am familiar with, only they haven’t popped to mind as I sit here just now….
Can anyone recommend a good book (or books) about female directors?