I don’t toss around 5* ratings like candy but I have no problem with rating a film 5* after only one viewing. Do you have to see a film twice to know that it’s great. Why?
I know in terms of women, there are a lot of very different tens out there.
the more you watch films, the more you seek out the good and tend to watch 4 and 5 star films
as far as fanning, never want to fan more than four films or like more directors than the profile page will display
I only fan my five-star films and I think I’m stingier in giving five stars than most. Still, I think one can recognize a truly great film on one viewing, although it’s true that certain film can grow on you after rewatches.
Actually it’s the fanning that I find more peculiar.
I like to follow people here with a similar taste, but people that tend to rate everything 4 or 5 stars are completely irrelevant.
And what’s going with them having over 500 films in their favourites-list?
“MARCORENTON
3 MINUTES AGO
And what’s going with them having over 500 films in their favourites-list?”
This.
You’ll know when it’s right.
I don’t mind at all to give a film 5 stars from only one viewing ,
But definitely not a fanning
And Fanning Not necessary 5 stars movie or a masterpiece
i do fan movies i see somehow connected , I see lots of people fan whatever good movie , anyway there no problem with that too
I must admit, I’m one of those mubians with a mega-list of “favorite” films. Here are some of my reasons and thoughts on the subject:
When I first joined the site, I knew nobody on here, and was just enjoying browsing through films I enjoyed. I didn’t realize, at first, that if I became a fan of a film it was listed on my profile as a favorite. Right now I’m at 930 and I certainly wouldn’t say I have 930 favorite films, but I would say that I enjoy all these films and would certainly re-watch any of them listed, so I usually become a fan for this reason.
I do feel I’m more selective regarding my ratings system. I still don’t have anywhere near a “set” system of what exactly makes a film 5 stars, 4 stars, etc., but I do take more time to think about a film post-viewing before I rate it, in an attempt to avoid a complete knee-jerk rating system; however, I am fine with rating a film 5 stars even if I’ve only seen it once, but I will usually wait a bit before I give it that rating now.
The other reason I’m not as selective when I become a fan of films, or why I feel comfortable rating films after one viewing, is that my profile is now private. Before, it was quite possible for someone to follow me based on my ratings or favorites, but now the people who follow me (and the people I tend to follow) are ones I’ve joined in discussion board conversations. I’ve definitely upped my forum participation since I switched my profile to private, and so i feel that the people now following me are doing so regardless of my extensive favorites list or my ratings system. And since the people I follow and the people who have followed me are ones I’ve “talked” more with on these forums, I feel there is more involved when they see my ratings/favorites or I see theirs. If someone rates a film really high or low, and it is a film I enjoyed or have been wanting to see, I usually feel quite comfortable discussing the film more with them, which I prefer to do anyway rather than just look at their list of favorites and ratings.
I’d say my true recommendation on here are the films I’ve included in some of my specialized lists.
5 stars don’t have to be given as something sacred to a movie; it sometimes means it’s better than four stars. I don’t give my 5 stars away like I would give candy on Halloween, especially if there’s something troubling in an otherwise great movie.
I think you have to acknowledge that some people don’t see movies twice (famous examples: Pauline Kael and [for the most part] Ed Gonzalez). Personally, I have to watch some movies twice because I might’ve missed something and I am forgetful.
MUBI needs the half-star system…
1/2 star system would be really helpful, Dude.
As BIJOUX ALEXANDERPLATZ alludes to, any confusion is a result of MUBI equating FAN and FAVORITE. Frankly I wish people would “BECOME A FAN” of more films. When I check profiles and see only a few films listed in “Favorites” I’m always disappointed. I like to get an idea of users overall tastes.
@elvis in king: agreed. This is one of the reasons why I initially took the Favorite Films section literally.
Can someone explain to me what “fanning” is?
Is there some (idiotic) rule I don’t know about where one cannot decide a film is great based on one viewing? Balderdash.
If you want to be “baffled”, just look at the number of fans of not yet released films such as The Dark Knight Rises, Moonrise Kingdom, and many others.
I have very few five star films, but I also have fanned films I’ve given two stars because I enjoy them possibly because they are bad, but fun.
The most recent film I have five stars was The Mill & The Cross, but I have four initially and went to five after seeing it a third time and thinking a great deal about it.
How do you know how many times someone has watched a film before they become a fan?
As for me, when followers get a notice that I became a fan of, say, the last nine pictures
I designated for that category, more than likely I saw them years ago,
and have seen them multiple times.
In fact, I eradicated my Favorites lists a long time ago and then began rebuilding several months ago,
because I find it a pleasant diversion.
As for judging a film’s merit or adopting it as a favorite after only one viewing, that certainly
applies in my case for THE NEW WORLD, MICHAEL CLAYTON, and THE ASSASSINATION OF JESSE JAMES, just for openers.
Why would I do otherwise?
Five stars is, to me, a film I “become a fan”, as it’s a favorite. There are many films out there I love, but, I’m sorry. The more films someone’s a fan of – the more I feel they have a passion in film in more departments than those who feel like they should only have a couple faves.
If it’s five stars, that means I loved it. If I fanned it, I gave it five stars, and therefore loved it. I have 600+ favorites, and don’t regret any of them. I’m more than willing to take a film off the list or add a previously seen one onto there if, during a revisit, I consider it to be better or worse than I originally considered. And oftentimes four-star films that came close to five stars move up there after the films have been fully digested and thought over by me.
““MARCORENTON
3 MINUTES AGO
And what’s going with them having over 500 films in their favourites-list?”
This."
This is completely silly. I have a little over 300 films favorited right now. I have seen over 5000 films. So to say that favorites are within the top 5% or so of films I’ve seen is not a very big claim.
I find it far more troubling to see someone like Marcorenton whose favorite films are almost entirely comprised of films released in the year 2000 onwards. That to me is more of a warning sign than someone with perhaps overly enthusiastic tastes.
Most of the films I’ve rated I go with a four or a five, but since five stars is a small scale to work with in the first place, I usually keep a conversion in mind [4 = 7 – 8.5, 5 = 9 – 10,] in that context while I do tend to rate higher than most people, I don’t give out many tens and even those don’t remain consistent. As far as fanning or adding films to my favorites, I decided to clean house at the beginning of the year and decided to only add films once I’ve rewatched them [possibly again, depending on the film] in order to make myself revisit a film at least once to see whether it held up for me or not.
Of all the films I’ve rated, 90% of them are for films that I’ve seen more than once. As a general rule, the film should be fresh in my mind when passing that kind of ‘judgement’, and even then, a rating is only a vague indication of how much I actually enjoyed a film, or how interesting it was as an experience.
I give out a lot of four and five star ‘ratings’ because most of the films I see interest me on some wider level, and I’m interested in promoting films (and promoting the viewing of films), so it’s not especially beneficial to give out a high number of ones and twos, unless it’s in the context of particular director’s career (two stars for Antichrist for example, against the five for Dogville) or to establish my tastes in a particular genre.
For me, ‘five stars’ is simply an indication that the film, in my estimation, achieved everything it possibly could. It means, in the most general terms, that the film provoked a sufficient amount of thought and feeling, was consistent with what (I felt) the filmmakers were attempting to accomplish, and was (for me at least) an example of ‘form’ being used intelligently and creatively to complement the themes or subtexts apparent in the script, or in the relationship between characters, etc.
As for the five star rating being sacred, or holding some kind of imaginary value… that’s not true for me at all. All ratings are ultimately worthless, and should only be used to get a sense of what a person enjoys or responds to. A five star rating is not a statement – “this film is excellent” – but an opinion – “I think this film is excellent”, and since watching film is a subjective experience, a film’s rating can change with every subsequent viewing. That’s why I don’t consider them all that definitive.
Why would you need to watch a movie more than once to give it five stars? That makes no sense.
I’m sometimes a fan of films before I’m even done watching ’em.
I guess everyone has their own ways of doing things. To me it makes no sense to have to re-watch something before you rate it five stars. If you were going to do that, why wouldn’t you re-watch a terrible movie before you rate it one star? It doesn’t make sense to me, but to each their own.
@JAZZALOHA
“Fanning” is when you click the “BECOME A FAN” option that places them in your “FAVORITE FILM” file. You have “fanned” 61 titles so far.
It’s a movie site.
It’s not that serious.
If you question why somebody does something you could ask them why (interpersonally). Hence the social aspect of the site.
It’s representative of taste. It’s not the sum total of it.
Aditya I.P.
I saw some (many?) members giving 5 stars / becoming a fan to/of a film after only one viewing. I mean, it’s ok to do that to some very special films, but some people just throw it around without much consideration so that the “sacred” 5 star rating almost loses its value. It’s like asking a girl you just went out with to marry you. So, are you one of them? What’s your reason for that? Or are you as baffled as I am about this?