Seriously, she’s been nominated 16 fucking times. And two Oscar wins is two more than what most people get. If you want to talk about a woman who deserved more recognition, maybe try Faye Dunaway. I’ve never seen many of Meryl Streep’s films. All I know is that Meryl keeps getting the plum roles and Faye Dunaway isn’t even considered B-list these days. Not that I’ve seen it, but I think that Faye’s career derailed right at Mommie Dearest. But she was excellent in Barfly and Chinatown, two films that did not bring her the Oscar. Many people argue that she should’ve won for the latter. Back to Meryl Streep, she is known as the Queen of the Accents, but when I see trailers for her stuff, it’s usually the silly accent that turns me away from seeing it. Also, I’ve heard that The Iron Lady is incredibly sympathetic to Maggie Thatcher. Pffft, if I want flattering portrayals of tyrants, I’d rather watch Triumph of the Will.
Just for the record, Katharine Hepburn was one actress who thought very little of Meryl Streep’s acting ability. And I certainly don’t think much of Meryl’s Australian accent. “A dungo stole moy baaay-buy!” indeed. I can mimic an American accent no problems and I have no formal dramatic training—shit, what is it with American actors and actresses? Is it REALLY so hard to speak Australian? Oh well, I guess Anthony Perkins couldn’t do it either (see On The Beach, he just gives up after a couple scenes, hilarious stuff).
No. She’s already got more than she deserves.
Her performance in SOPHIE’S CHOICE is so amazing that she’s raised the bar way too far up for her to ever reach again. Nevertheless, the way they give Oscars, it’s likely she’ll get another at some point.
Here’s the performance she SHOULD have won the Oscar for.
she is awfully phony but I could see her getting two oscars, but not for the films she won them for.
If she wins for “Iron Lady”, then the Oscar nominations will die down, because my theory is that once Meryl takes home a 3rd Oscar, then the Academy will pay less attention to her, now that she is a 3 time winner. The purpose of all these nominations is to build up for her definitive performance. We have yet to see…….
One of the reasons I can’t sit through Richard Roeper’s reviews is that he thinks “Nomination Worthy” is the highest praise you can bestow on an actor.
I think she will win her third Oscar eventually, but of course it proves nothing.
I’m a big Streep fan, so that’s fine with me, but she herself has said she’s over-rated. I think that’s true in the no one is THAT good.
Yes.
No. But Annette Bening has. A.B. must hate Hilary Swank, lol.
I have never been one to say every performance she’s given has just been too good for God, however let’s admit that when she’s good, she’s great.
I say she really deserved to be awarded for three performances, and maybe a fourth. She is unbelievably good in Sophie’s Choice, Ironweed and she absolutely nails Julia Child in Julie/Julia. And, with all apologies to Wanderer, I think her acting in A Cry in the Dark, her accent notwithstanding since it sounded fine to my Yankee ears, is spot-on. She made me forget she was acting the part.
The real problems is Tom Hanks (who also has more than one oscar)
he is only good when he is goofy and he never got recognized for those mid 80s works
A CRY IN THE DARK is a remarkable performance. She should have been nominated for her great work in THE HOURS. I also think she is very good in PLENTY and HEARTBURN.
OUT OF AFRICA is a very problematic film but she is very good in it. Still, I would rather let Geraldine Page keep her Oscar! She deserved it and it was kind of a career award.
And, with all apologies to Wanderer, I think her acting in A Cry in the Dark, her accent notwithstanding since it sounded fine to my Yankee ears, is spot-on.
Clearly you’ve never met an Australian person in your life.
Are you aware, Mister Sepesy, that A DUNGO STOLE MOY BAAAY-BUY! is a national joke in Australia? I’ve lost count of the amount of television comics who’ve pulled out this plum for a cheap laugh. When all else fails, recite that infamous line from Evil Angels (the Australian title for the film) and even people who haven’t seen the film (Yours Truly) laughs their arses off.
I’m not kidding, you can do it at dinner parties, birthdays, the foyer of your favourite cinema, public transport, and anyone who overhears and “gets it” (most people) will get a giggle out of it. For even greater impact, wave your arms around like a moron and run about in circles. If you have a horrible fake looking flapper wig handy, put that on, too.
Mister Sepesy, as strange as it may sound to you, your “American Ears” finding Meryl Sheep’s “Australian accent” perfectly acceptable is about as fair as somebody finding Butterfly McQueen in Gone With The Wind to be a totally accurate portrayal of the way Afro-American women speak and act. You probably also think that Germans really do sound like Peter Sellers in Dr Strangelove. Really, Sheep’s Aussie accent is THAT bad, which is why I cannot bring myself to watch the film. Well, I may one day, only if I want a break from Plan 9 from Outer Space.
Even worse, they’ve just brought up the whole Lindy Chamberlain case again…this issue just won’t roll over and die. Blah.
But yeah, if you think that Australians talk like people from COCKNEY, ENGLAND, you’ve really got problems. There’s a huge difference. And the real Lindy Chambrlain sounds nothing like that. Try listening to her talk sometime. In fact, try listening to Aussies in general (the following clip can be considered a primer):
Nevermind the fact Lindy’s actually a New Zealander. DOUBLE bang.
Americans are not the only people in the world, Christopher. And it was a film made about an Australian incident involving a native of New Zealand. The least the filmmakers could do is get it right for those in the South Pacific, instead of treating us with contempt. And of course Meryl took a role away from an Australian actress who would’ve spared us the stupid faux accent.
But I think Roscoe sums it up perfectly:
She’s already got more than she deserves.
Quite!
Postscript: I don’t believe the following statement: If she wins for “Iron Lady”, then the Oscar nominations will die down because another Oscar will bring her to three which shall be one shy of The Great Kate. If she wins three then a fourth shall be certain, just so “this generation” can say they were around to witness a woman win four Oscars. Everyone wants “their” generation to be the Golden Age of something.
Speaking of Cockney accents…
This might help our American friends to grasp the idea of a Cockney accent. This is what a lot of Americans sound like when they attempt an Australian accent but Cockney, England is closer to Iceland than it is Australia.
Australia certainly isn’t within earshot of Bow Bells.
PS For those who can’t work it out for themselves, it’s the young lady on the left in the clip (the late Wendy Richard) whose accent is Cockney.
How did this become an international incident? If I didn’t know better, I’d think someone with a Greek name moved south for the winter.
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Doug C
This subject came up in a holiday family disucssion because “Iron Lady” is coming out this weekend where I am and a couple relatives are anxious to see it. Meryl Streep has won the Oscar twice, a Golden Globe seven times, and been nominated for an Oscar 16 times as of right now. The question is, has she deserved more Oscar wins? If so, for what. One relative suggested “Out of Africa” in 1985. I don’t know whether that would have gotten my vote but the winner that year, Geraldine Page, for “A Trip to Bountiful” surely doesn’t generate a lot of discussion anymore. I guess I feel she is sufficiently acclaimed as it is, and I’m not sure she deserved more wins but that is the question. I guess people feel anyone of her caliber should probably have the most wins at this point.