I was going to go to Barnes and Noble again and take advantage of the buy 2 get 1 free DVD sale they have going on. I thought I would use some of my own money, and also order two B&N $25 gift cards (I had enough points to get them), but when I ordered them it said they would take a few weeks to get here, so I’ll only be able to get one film. So, the three I was going to get were The Seventh Seal, High and Low, and Pierrot Le Fou. Can anyone suggest which of these I should buy now?
Well I would say The Seventh Seal based on how great the film is. However the DVD has very little special features and was one of the first Criterion releases so they might be rereleasing it in a better version. For that reason I might suggest waiting. Still I don’t think you should wait for that because it could be a year plus and that is a long time. I guess my suggestion would still be The Seventh Seal.
SEVENTH SEAL, obviously
HIGH AND LOW wasn’t as good as people made it sound
and I like PIERROT LE FOU, but it’s no SEVENTH SEAL.
That’s a real shame that you can’t pre-order the DVDs on the terms of the sale. I have seriously indulged in that sale, let me tell you! But I will put in a plug for Pierrot le Fou in this instance. I agree with the others that Seventh Seal is a greater and more important film, but there’s no contest if one is comparing the overall quality of the release. P le F has two discs and is really quite an impressive package. You may have more success finding Seventh Seal on the secondary (used) market, including eBay or Amazon.com. Amazon is selling Seventh Seal for $25 right now and less than $20 if you want to buy used. Pierrot is $35 new and $25 used. Just fyi. If you are looking to build a quality long-term collection, go with Pierrot since I can’t imagine that release being topped anytime soon, whereas the Seventh Seal is practically screaming for an upgrade a la Seven Samurai, Amarcord, The Lady Vanishes, M, Play Time and several other titles that Criterion has re-issued over the years.
I’ll be the only one, but. . . I say High and Low. It’s an amazing film, and the release is beautifully packaged and has tons of amazing bonus features.
I second Flemmon, and only three minutes after the fact. Seventh Seal is a beautiful, amazingly interesting film, but I’d suggest waiting and picking up the four masterworks box set. High and Low is fantastic, plus as Flemmon says, it’s got great bonus features.
Pierrot le Fou is wonderful as well, but I’m a Kurosawa fan till the end.
We are doing a great job muddling up Ryan’s dilemma! :o)
I would say get The Bad Sleep Well over High and Low.
So far 1 for Pierrot Le Fou, 2 for the Seventh Seal, 2 for High and Low, and 1 for The Bad Sleep Well.
I might as well add, I’ve only seen films by Godard and Kurosawa (And liked them all very much), I haven’t seen any Bergman films yet, but I’ve been wanting to for quite some time.
I had a similar dilemma recently where I had to decide between purchasing The Seventh Seal and Werckmeister Harmonies (in fact I made a thread out of the situation) and I ended up with The Seventh Seal. You should buy that one.
High and Low by far. The Criterion re-release has lots of good extra features, and if you’re going to be paying the $40 Barnes and Noble top-dollar price, that’s the one. In the future, I would recommend going to DVDplanet.com, where you can get Criterion releases for 10 percent above the wholesale cost, which is $15 to $20 cheaper than you’re paying for them at Barnes and Noble. DVDplanet is by far the first and foremost place to go for Criterion. Only problem, you have to order them by mail, unless you live in Huntington Beach or Rancho Cucamonga, Ca.
Well, since you haven’t seen Bergman, rent the Seventh Seal first. You will love it, but that may satisfy you until the re-release of it. Also rent Persona by Bergman (not a Criterion release, but absolutely fantastic and still loaded with extras). With your money, I would suggest The Bad Sleep Well over High and Low (although they are both great and you can’t go wrong with either). That said, choosing any of those you mentioned will leave you happy, but perhaps start by renting some Bergman.
So maybe I’ll just rent the Seventh Seal for now, that leaves me with enough money for another film. I was looking at The Thief of Bagdad, If…, and Night On Earth, what do you think?
Both Thief of Bagdad and Night On Earth are great films but I’d go High and Low over both of them.
So it turns out now that I’ll probably only be able to get two films (Damn!), so out of what I’ve listed, what should I get? It seems like most people are saying High and Low, so that will probably be one of them.
i would say High and Low followed by the Seventh Seal
Here’s what I’m thinking. Rent The Seventh Seal, because it doesn’t come with many bonus features, and I could order it from Amazon later for a cheaper price, and buy Pierrot Le Fou and High and Low because I know that I like other films from these directors, and they both come with lots of bonus features. Unless someone thinks that any of the other films I’ve listed would be a better purchase.
And thanks for all of the help. :)
The Seventh Seal is good and all, but there are so many better and less goofy Bergman movies out there. I would just rent it so you’ve seen it and then buy the other two.
Okay, this is just me, but Seventh Seal is not a movie you are likely to watch again and again. Unless you’re like the reincarnation of Kierkegaard or something. For me, it was fine to see once, but it’s a bit lugubrious and heavy-handed. Some of these art films are wonderful and all, but if we’re honest with ourselves we can say that they aren’t always that much fun to watch. Is it only about fun? Of course not. But when you’re talking about spending 40 bucks on something, I think it should be a well-rounded viewing experience that you might watch a few times.
so if you have funds to buy two movies, why don’t you just use BN buy 2 get 1 to get three? how much money exactly do you have that you want to spend on movies? we may be able to find a better deal for you through BN, amazon, or one of those online dvd stores.
>>but it’s a bit lugubrious and heavy-handed.<<
Maybe it’s just me, but I think we forget that THE SEVENTH SEAL has some very funny moments in it, such as the guy climbing the tree to escape Death … who then produces a saw & cuts down the tree.
It’s not an MGM musical, by any means, but it isn’t quite as ponderous as its reputation suggests.
After you’ve seen Woody Allen’s Love and Death, though, it’s hard to watch Seventh Seal. imo. Bergman’s sense of humor may just be over my head, but I hated the circus people, and by the time they got to the castle in the end I was just like, “oh who cares?” Nowhere near as interesting a film, for instance, as Benjamin Christensen’s Haxan (also set in the middle ages).
I think definitely the Seventh Seal (though not my favorite Bergman). I didn’t think Pierrot Le Fou was Godard’s best…though it is still good!
Yeah but honestly, how many times are you sitting around thinking to yourself, “Hmm, I really want to watch that Seventh Seal right now.”? That’s all I’m saying. It’ll be a place holder on the shelf and little more.
I agree, that’s what I was thinking of as well. It’s probably not something I’d watch multiple times.
Chicago, I can’t use the Buy 2 Get 1 Free deal, because right now I have 28 dollars. I’m waiting for the bank to send me two B&N $25 gift cards (through this reward thing), then I’ll have about 80 bucks. But the gift cards won’t be here for a couple of weeks.
ahhh, i see. that’s what i thought, I guess I just got confused when you said it turns out you will be able to only get two films, so i assumed you were buying them both soon.
well, i think you are looking at all great movies, so you will definitely be satisfied!
I just made a few hundred bucks taking part in this scientific research study (yes, I hire out my body as a lab rat) and I just ordered a ton of new dvds. I’m sooo excited, had to share, but rather than start a dreaded new thread, I thought I’d just post the list here:
Before the Rain
Pierrot le Fou
Pickup on South Street
There Will Be Blood
Kenneth Anger films, volume 1
The Bed You Sleep In
…and I think that may be it.
Saw the print of Pierrot Le Fou when it was touring. It looked beautiful. I’m sure the dvd looks just as good. Definitely get that one.
If you haven’t made your decision yet, go for Pierrot Le Fou and High and Low (the newer release is loaded). Both of those you’ll want to see more than once, trust me. Frankly, you can easily get The Seventh Seal cheap in most used-record/dvd shops, even online. Or, like most folks suggested, just wait ’til Criterion release a better package of Seventh Seal.
Thanks guys. I decided I’ll buy High and Low and Pierrot Le Fou, and either rent The Seventh Seal or order it from Amazon.