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Dude, chill out. Don’t troll this thread if you don’t care. Be respectful of those who do.
Anonymouse’s edited post (I moderated the original version):
“Why are we lamenting the death of a catastophically wealthy industrial? Can our society not see farther than its iPod?
In bygone eras, we emulated men who achieved truly great feats- a walk on the Moon, the conquest of the known world and the like. Now apparently we’re content to weep over the passing of a two-bit salesman."
I’m not a big fan of Apple. Personally, I think it is more marketing than innovation, but Jobs reshaped the way we see things, which is why I thought his passing worth noting in Mubi. I well imagine David Hudson will have an obit on Jobs once he wraps his thoughts around the subject.
There you go, Hudson on Jobs
House of Leaves is clearly a censor. Why doesn’t the edited post show up under the name of the original poster of it?
Yes, free speech start another thread – an Apple-hate thread, if it is that important to you.
This thread is In Memoriam for someone and community standards should apply.
The fact is, MUBi is not a public space.
I mourn the death of a human being. His wealth doesn’t make me mourn him any more or less.
Steve Jobs didn’t invent the concepts he implemented, but he was able to create a product based on hypothetical future demand rather than existing demand, which is a hard thing to do. He didn’t advance computer technology, but he revolutionized computer interfaces. We can appreciate that without wealth resentment cynicism.
start another thread – an Apple hate thread, if it is that important to you.
You assume a lot Robert, I do not particularly have a great dislike for Jobs. I’m just saying House’s moderating is kind of odd, since he either edited the offensive post and posted his edited version of it, or reposted a user’s edited post that he had at first deleted.
Well then, Anonymouse can start a hate-thread.
How Josh moderated might have been done to set a standard.
“This thread is In Memoriam for someone and community standards should apply.”
Actually, the OP asked people to share their thoughts and Anonymouse shared them. He should not have been moderated for his criticisms.
Anyway, I’m all up in the cult of Apple for my computing needs so it’s sad news. Apple without Jobs is going to have some problems. I never did understand why – unlike someone like Bill Gates who is widely cast rightly or wrongly as one of the world’s villains – Jobs was so stingy with his money when it came to charitable giving and philanthropy.
It was probably more than language than the statement, as House of Leaves posted a modified version of his statement.
Negative views don’t bother me. I wasn’t a Jobs devotee. Far from it. I pretty much agree with Jirin’s statement. Jobs was able to tap into the market psyche and give it what it wanted, for the most part anyway.
Whatever, he’s dead. Apple goes on, for better or for worse. There are some nice products that he had a hand in producing. Cults are silly.
Now for a cup of tea and some routine business.
I followed the PC phenomenon from the beginning and it is a little more than that. It seems we take all the great advances for granted today, forgetting the pioneering work Jobs and Gates and others did to get the PC industry off the ground. Granted, the PC had already been invented by IBM, but they were just sitting on it.
Triumph of the Nerds offers a great review of the events that shaped we all view the monitor these days.
^ It’s fascinating. When I was a kid, we wrote all our papers in long hand. None of us used computers. That was in the 1970s.
When I was in high school, I learned a bit about binary code. We had IBMs in our class.
When I was in college, a suite mate of mine was the first to own an Apple MacIntosh, the rest of us used electric typewriters.
My first job out of college, I learned DBaseIII and Word Perfect.
Now, I use a PC at work, and an iMac at home.
I witnessed the evolution of this industry as I grew up.
let’s not forget steve’s contribution to films:
In 1986, Jobs bought The Graphics Group (later renamed Pixar) from Lucasfilm’s computer graphics division for the price of $10 million, $5 million of which was given to the company as capital.
The new company, which was originally based at Lucasfilm’s Kerner Studios in San Rafael, California, but has since relocated to Emeryville, California, was initially intended to be a high-end graphics hardware developer. After years of unprofitability selling the Pixar Image Computer, it contracted with Disney to produce a number of computer-animated feature films, which Disney would co-finance and distribute.
The first film produced by the partnership, Toy Story, brought fame and critical acclaim to the studio when it was released in 1995. Over the next 15 years, under Pixar’s creative chief John Lasseter, the company would produce the box-office hits A Bug’s Life (1998); Toy Story 2 (1999); Monsters, Inc. (2001); Finding Nemo (2003); The Incredibles (2004); Cars (2006); Ratatouille (2007); WALL-E (2008); Up (2009); and Toy Story 3 (2010). Finding Nemo, The Incredibles, Ratatouille, WALL-E, Up and Toy Story 3 each received the Academy Award for Best Animated Feature, an award introduced in 2001.
In the years 2003 and 2004, as Pixar’s contract with Disney was running out, Jobs and Disney chief executive Michael Eisner tried but failed to negotiate a new partnership, and in early 2004 Jobs announced that Pixar would seek a new partner to distribute its films once its contract with Disney expired.
In October 2005, Bob Iger replaced Eisner at Disney, and Iger quickly worked to patch up relations with Jobs and Pixar. On January 24, 2006, Jobs and Iger announced that Disney had agreed to purchase Pixar in an all-stock transaction worth $7.4 billion. Once the deal closed, Jobs became The Walt Disney Company’s largest single shareholder with approximately 7% of the company’s stock. Jobs’s holdings in Disney far exceed those of Eisner, who holds 1.7%, and of Disney family member Roy E. Disney, who until his 2009 death held about 1% of the company’s stock and whose criticisms of Eisner – especially that he soured Disney’s relationship with Pixar – accelerated Eisner’s ousting. Jobs joined the company’s board of directors upon completion of the merger. Jobs also helped oversee Disney and Pixar’s combined animation businesses with a seat on a special six person steering committee. —wikipedia
Coma:
Your Friendly Neighborhood Censor here!
Anonymouse’s original post was over the top and completely inappropriate for this thread. While I was reading it, he himself came to that same conclusion and edited, however, since my screen hadn’t refreshed yet (all of this occurred within five minutes or so), I made my decision to moderate based on the original post. I stand by that.
After the fact, he reached out to me and I was able to go back behind the scenes and see the edited post he made, which was much tamer, so I posted it in good faith.
Any issues with myself or moderation in general can be taken up with Admin.
I can remember punch cards, Odi. I got into some fun arguments with the guys in the old “Lost” forum over the early computer industry.
The death of Steve Jobs gives the PC revolution a sense of history, which to this point it seems that it has been created anew everyday.
The PIxar movies are fun, Ruby, but they’ve become too repetitive. I thought what was lacking in Toy Story was a fusion of animation with live action similar to Roger Rabbit. This would have made the movie much more convincing (cinematically that is). I thought the Incredibles and Ratatouille were wonderful.
It was interesting to read that Jobs was ready to jettison Pixar when it seemed unable to go beyond commercials and short features. Toy Story was the big breakthrough and Jobs went public on the strength of one movie. A huge gamble at the time, but it paid off considerably. His “genius” seemed to be in taking risks like this although he had to eat crow a few times.
i love up!!!
BUT… i HATE itunes. crippling drm sux for one thing. also it won’t play .ogg or .flac files among others. i refuse to own an ipod B-)
mediamonkey ftw!
Dzimas — ooh, punch cards! lol
“Any issues with myself or moderation in general can be taken up with Admin.”
Why is there such a deliberate effort to make this place as Kafkaesque as possible? Especially since Anonymouse seems to have disappeared now too. I think there can be critical reflection on what Jobs represented. Maybe not expressed insensitively and in poor taste but I don’t think taste should be dictated by mods.
He left again?
We all do the best we can. Compared to other forums this site is pretty lightly moderated.
Dzimas
I read the news today oh boy ….
The man who created Apple is now dead. He was also instrumental in developing Pixar from its rather shaky start to the multi-billion dollar animated feature industry it has become. His legacy is rich and varied, and is the subject of Walter Isaacson’s latest biography, due out next month.
Whether Jobs is on the same level as Einstein is more an emotional argument than it is an intellectual one, but Jobs certainly reshaped the personal computer industry, as well as the way we listen to music and how we use our telephones. His genius seemed to be for product development and marketing, creating a devoted following for his products. The lines for his latest igadgets became the stuff of legend.
Share your thoughts on Steve Jobs.