not sure if this has already been posted yet.
^^I’m not too keen on Spielberg’s dramas, and i especially don’t like jingoistic nonsense in films, but i do like the idea of a modern Lincoln biopic, and it’s no secret that Spielberg has been trying to make this for years.
Can’t say it looks great to me, but i’ll see it anyway.
Unpromising in the extreme. Lots of familiar Spielberg polish, Oscar-winners dropping carefully chosen one-liners, with the obligatory John Williams score swelling in the background to tell us how to feel and tearful closeups of folks being Very Very Moved.
Only a trailer, and all, but somehow I can just tell that the film’s last words will be “and now he belongs to the ages.”
My God the beards…
Cast looks great but it does look very ‘worthy’.
Come on Roscoe! You are way way off base with that ending. Obviously it’s going to have to end with a gathering of people of all races at the Lincoln Memorial where the epitaph over his head is read to some school children.
IN THIS TEMPLE
AS IN THE HEARTS OF THE PEOPLE
FOR WHOM HE SAVED THE UNION
THE MEMORY OF ABRAHAM LINCOLN
IS ENSHRINED FOREVER
Greg, that’ll run as a bonus for those who stay to the end of the credits.
I will watch this only for DDL’s portrayal of Lincoln.
Spielberg hasn’t made a great film since Minority Report, so any new project from him is risky, but I’m hopeful for this one. What a compelling subject matter and if its in the mode of Saving Private Ryan… well, I loved Saving Private Ryan!
I’m expecting very modernized morality. Would Spielberg really give a character he intends to be sympathetic qualities that seem horrible now but were accepted at the time?
Hopefully Lincoln will be presented in all his humanity, including flaws and frailties, but never losing site that his final stand was truly heroic, saved the country and made him one of the (I’d say THE) greatest Presidents.
The is based primary on Goodwin’s Team of Rivals, so hopefully it will get into some of the personality conflicts and professional rivalries between Lincoln and his cabinet as the book does.
As an aside, it’s interesting that the last couple of presidential scholars I’ve seen (on in the U.S. and one in the UK) have rated Lincoln below FDR (the American-based one also had him ranked below Teddy Roosevelt).
No vampires. Bummer.
Is it just me or does DDL’s accent sound awful?
^ The accent is a very deliberate choice based on history. According to contemporary accounts, Lincoln’s voice had a higher pitch than we tend to imagine.
Too bad they couldn’t figure out how to work some Academy Award winners into the film somehow.
Matt, you know how modest they are about advertising their status as Oscar winners.
Yeah . . . but, damn, did you have to actually bring an Oscar with you to Spielberg’s office to a get a job on this film? How did Tony Kushner’s slack ass get the gig?—he’s only won a Tony and a Pulitzer!
I hope after this DDL doesn’t become that actor where “well anything he’s in will be Oscar nominated”. But looking at what he’s done before, I’m confident he’ll raise some hell here.
The voice is troubling. I don’t buy the historical accuracy angle. Even if you have to be authentic (id rather license with the voice than the actual events), it still sounds not only nasally, but weak. It sounds almost timid and ‘Now! Now! Now!’ is just almost camp. That part of the trailer is pretty horrible. But after watching the trailer a few times, iI think it isn’t as hopeless as I thought at first. I am leaving out some hope it could be great, because I am actually a Spielberg defender mostly.
Hundred times a better trailer:
Lincoln’s voice was, when he first began speaking, shrill, squeaking, piping, unpleasant; his general look, his form, his pose, the color of his flesh, wrinkled and dry, his sensitiveness, and his momentary diffidence, everything seemed to be against him, but he soon recovered.
—William H. Herndon letter, July 19, 1887
But whenever he began to talk his eyes flashed and every facial movement helped express his idea and feeling. Then involuntarily vanished all thought or consciousness of his uncouth appearance, or awkward manner, or even his high keyed, unpleasant voice.
—Abram Bergen in Intimate Memories of Lincoln
The [second] inaugural address was received in most profound silence. Every word was clear and audible as the ringing and somewhat shrill tones of Lincoln’s voice sounded over the vast concourse.
—Noah Brooks in Washington in Lincoln’s Time
roscoe nailed it.
“I hope after this DDL doesn’t become that actor where “well anything he’s in will be Oscar nominated”. But looking at what he’s done before, I’m confident he’ll raise some hell here.”
DDL broke that little tradition with a fiasco called NINE.
“Lincoln’s voice, as far as period descriptions go, was a little shriller, a little higher . . . It would be a mistake to say that his voice was squeaky though. People said that his voice carried into crowds beautifully. Just because the tone was high doesn’t mean it wasn’t far-reaching."