LomoKino
Yeah I definitely want to use this thing.
If you get one first, tell me how it works!
I was thinking that even though each roll of 35mm film only produces about a minute or less of footage, in digital editing you could re-use the same footage cropped in different ways and warped in different ways with effects through your editing program to extend the film a bit. Also, combine it with other rolls to make a longer film. The limit of the amount of time on one roll of 35 mm film needn’t really be a limitation in terms of time — the digital tools allow a bunch of different things to be done with that.
Of course, making a feature length might be an epic job, but I suppose one could try it as a statement against (ha ha) our fast pace times. Would be pretty funny to have a contest to see who could come up with a cool film of a certain length in certain amount of time. All built on roll after roll of 35 mm film with only so many exposures…
My imagination has been kicked into overdrive with the discovery of this tool… uh oh……
I’m curious as well.
Ok, everyone when and if you get one of these things, I’ll create another group on vimeo for us to post, we can talk about ideas for experiments here. This could lead to fun stuff! If successful, maybe, maybe, we can get a project going on Garage, but one step at a time… (winking at Luis A.)
Since we’re talking about scanning here, I’m also imagining stills and other visuals could barge into a film unexpectedly…
I’ve been chatting with Rob Smart about the idea of doing a feature vampire film partly with this camera. Lets see what happens.
ooo — that sounds like so much fun, Jesse!
BTW, apropos of all this I just had a very interesting discussion re: technicolor just now…. Also regarding the reality that because film is a medium that like photos, and really in some cases this applies to digital too, gets changed color and image-wise over generations through aging and degradation, we all can have different perceptions, either subtly or drastically, of the same film. So… even though film is considered the “warmer,” more “human” medium, if you work with digital film that degrades and acquires artifacts in a sense this too cannot escape the human touch. Hand-made/tangible vs. machine-made — do we really ever acquire “perfection” in the latter? I mean, there is a much more perceptible gradation from black to white, so to speak, in film, but in the end I don’t think that digital, as a more “mechanical” and “cold” medium can really escape our “imperfections” either. Perhaps one could even purposefully allow a digital film to degrade over time by making it deliberately more unstable and in this way add that imperfection that we feel closer too with mediums we can actually perceive our hands working on… perhaps someone has already tried this approach too…
As well, I was watching The Wizard of Oz and was thinking about the process of scanning negatives shot through the LomoKino and altering them digitally. Hmmm, technicolor, shot on 3 different black and white film stocks and processed through another medium much like the print process to give color… here we have another opportunity to work on a movie by building it up through different processes, wondering if there is a digital effect like technicolor you could put on a 35 mm negative?… That would be a pretty funny marriage…
So many possibilities…
Y’all, just saw this link in the Mubi Digest for this week:
Lomokino on the big screen, in Madrid! Participating in the collaboration are also the group who have been making The Cosmonaut, which is a project on Mubi Garage.
Auguri!!!!
And on a more quiet note, just shot my first 4 rolls of film on my own Lomokino. Going to be scanning them soon to see how they came out. So much fun!
Looks retro, but personally I wouldn’t use it a lot…
It’s a beginning. You don’t know where it might go, so don’t make any (negative) assumptions. :)
Oh no, I’m not saying anything negative about it, did I? If I feel I would like to use it, then I would.
Ha ha! The internet.
Well if you’re ever interested in using it, let me know. Because I’m going to try to play with it a LOT. And see how far I can push it.
My quiet beginning. Yes I’m very excited about this! :)
Anyone else using one, please post your experiences on this thread! :D
Ok, update on Lomokino:
1) Scan negs.
2) Separate each frame — yes, each frame.
3) Drag and drop into iMovie — and this is almost where I’m at — and somehow make it into a movie.
I used Fuji 400 iso film (36 exposures required), and Fuji tends to like bluer/greener images. Must try Kodak next which favors reds and yellows.
I.e., this is a labor intensive process. If you don’t like to take your time, and must have instant gratification, stay away from this.
Luckily, I knit and enamel, both labor intensive, so… I’m ok separating frames, little by little.
Anyway, more later….
If y’all read the home page, Lomokino now has a Mubi edition.
Just saw that Weerasethakul just made a short with one of these.
^ YAAAAAY
I’m tellin’ you, the idea has potential…. :D
Just watched the short. Inspiring! :D
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Today I have LOMOKINO .
I got one of these just yesterday and I’’m eager to try it out. A place called The Darkroom in So Cal will process and digitze the movies for ten bucks. I’ll check it out. I like the simplicity of it, almost primitive. I think the most interesting part will be manipulating the images to see what is possible. I’ll b using iMovie for now. So far I’m happy with that. When I need to move beyond it, I’ll try Final Cut, etc.
The whole thing promises to be quite an adventure.
I got one of these just yesterday and I’’m eager to try it out. A place called The Darkroom in So Cal will process and digitze the movies for ten bucks. I’ll check it out. I like the simplicity of it, almost primitive. I think the most interesting part will be manipulating the images to see what is possible. I’ll b using iMovie for now. So far I’m happy with that. When I need to move beyond it, I’ll try Final Cut, etc.
The whole thing promises to be quite an adventure.
… except it isn’t. I can’t load the frikkin camera! It is cheaply made and impossible to work with. Either that or it doesn’t like me. Or I got a bad one. I’m sending it back. I am returning to my old clunky Bolex and my small guage film in 1:33 ratio retrofilm, all unhip as it is.
… except it isn’t. I can’t load the frikkin camera! It is cheaply made and impossible to work with. Either that or it doesn’t like me. Or I got a bad one. I’m sending it back. I am returning to my old clunky Bolex and my small guage film in 1:33 ratio retrofilm, all unhip as it is.
I’ve been shooting with the LomoKino for a couple of months now. Composing shots is a rather arbitrary matter which, in turn, makes shooting with the camera both exciting and nerve-racking at the same time. Exciting, because results can exceed your expectations, and never-racking because, well, not having proper framing tools, you really don’t know wtf you might get back from the lab.
This is the first piece I shot on the LomoKino:
https://vimeo.com/43868181
For those who have used the Lomokino to make and develop a film:
How do you like it? Is it worth the purchase?
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Anyone else interested in using this? I’ve decided next year is the year I start with a marriage of analog (film, then scanned) and digital (editing, etc).
I’m excited! At least there are some ways now you can work with film, just a little bit, that are not going burn holes in all your pockets and leave you occupying some Occupy movement location permanently.
Also I like the idea of editing in digital, as I’m pretty familiar and have a method down already for the simple programs I tend to use.
Here’s to making a lot with very little! :D