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Movies That Should Be In the Criterion Collection

RaySqui​rrel

over 3 years ago

To Evan Calderara:

I have to say I found your face-judgment of a movie that I recommended to be very close-minded and insulting. On a board site such as this which was created to help spur discussion of on a wide array of films, it is just simply childish to dismiss something as “a grade a piece of shit” without having seen it.

No Contour may not have the best acting or best story in cinema history. And the humor of is juvenile. In fact I will admit that it may have some of the worst acting in cinema history and by the time the film reaches its end the story pretty much dissolves into nothing. And the humor is pretty juvenile, though I believe it is exquisitely juvenile.

The reason why I believe the film is notable is because The Stunt People are some of the best amateur action choreographers I’ve ever seen. They are on the level of the greats like Jackie Chan, Jet Li, Wen Yo Ping, and Tony Jaa. And the action choreography and photography in this movie overshadows pretty much anything I’ve see come out of Asia, Hollywood or Europe in recent years.

And they were able to do this with practically no budget, working out of a van with minimal equipment to be quite an achievement and a testament to what digital technology has allowed filmmakers to do in the age of YouTube. In that way they resemble a less intellectual “French New Wave”. These people have talent that deserves to be recognized and they have a future in the industry.

I was able to watch Come and See on YouTube and I have to say that I liked its mixture of horror with a WWII setting. Its long dollies combined with intense use of subjectivity to be very engrossing but unsettling at the same time. It is like Children of Men crossed with Parajonov’s In the Shadows of Forgotten Ancestors, all involving the conflict between the Soviets and the Nazis.

Though I can’t imagine any who would want to subject themselves to this more then once. There is absolutely no joy to be taken from the film. What else can be taken away from it other then “war is hell”? Yes there are very good reasons why films like this are necessary. Because as human beings we wish to explore the unpleasant aspects of life that we would wish to be spared.

But most people go to the movies to be entertained. Sometimes the best cinema comes from the joy of watching bodies dance and move on screen for no other reason other then it is pleasing to the eye. Not all movies have to conform to a concept of the expression of the subjective nature of the human condition. That is why along with films like Overlord, Grand Illusion, The Wages of Fear, Night and Fog and The Taste of Cherry (a movie which I think is a “grade A pile of shit”) the Criterion Collection contains films such as Equenox, Branded to Kill, Carnival of Souls, Flesh for Frankenstine, The Blob, Armageddon (again “grade A pile of shit”), Jigoku and the Monsters and Madmen box set.

Besides Come and See already has a distributor. Kino Video.

Hans Lucas

over 3 years ago

The Trial

Grey Daisies

over 3 years ago

My dream releases would be:

- A Brighter Summer Day (Edward Yang)
- A City of Sadness (Hsiao-hsien Hou)
- The Travelling Players (Theodoros Angelopoulos)
- Time of the Gypsies (Emir Kusturica)
- Themroc (Claude Faraldo)
- Taking Off (Milos Forman)
- Love Streams (John Cassavetes)
- Prospero’s Books (Peter Greenaway)
- The Tulse Luper Suitcases Boxset (Peter Greenaway)
- La Cicatrice intérieure (Philippe Garrel)
- La Vérité (Henri-Georges Clouzot)
- La Maman et la putain (Jean Eustache)
- La Ciociara (Vittorio De Sica)
- Nostalghia (Andrei Tarkovsky)
- Ossessione (Luchino Visconti)
- El Sur (Víctor Erice)
- Il Sorpasso (Dino Risi)
- Island of Lost Souls (Erle C. Kenton)
- Der Gang in die Nacht (FW Murnau)
- The Fall of the House of Usher (Jean Epstein)
- The Docks of New York (Josef von Sternberg)
- Der Müde Tod (Fritz Lang)
- Sir Arne’s Treasure (Mauritz Stiller)
- Die Angst des Tormanns beim Elfmeter (Wim Wenders)
- Welt am Draht (Rainer Werner Fassbinder)
- Acht Stunden sind kein Tag Boxset (Rainer Werner Fassbinder)

- Eclipse Set of all Mikio Naruse films that aren’t available otherwise
- Eclipse Set of Jacques Rivette films: Celine and Julie Go Boating/Noroît/Duelle/Histoire de Marie et Julien
- Eclipse Set of Early Ming-liang Tsai: Rebels of the Neon God/Vive L’Amour/The River/The Hole
- Eclipse Set of a Lisandro Alonso Trilogy: La Libertad/Los Muertos/Fantasma
- Eclipse Set of Cao Guimarães Documentaries: Drifter/Accident/The Soul of the Bone
- Eclipse Set of Early Alain Robbe-Grillet: L’Immortelle/Trans-Europ-Express/L’Homme qui ment/L’Éden et après
- Eclipse Set of some Zanzibar Films: La Lit de la vierge/Le Révélateur/Acephale/Deux Fois
- Eclipse Set of some No Wave Films: Unmade Beds/The Foreigner/Underground U.S.A./Rome ’78

Ivan Gutierrez

over 3 years ago

The Manchurian Candidate (1962). The only available version is a sloppy special edition.

Ivan Gutierrez

over 3 years ago

Wait a minute Adam. What about Full Metal Jacket? It was only released on DVD & VHS in the pan & scan Stanley Kubrick Collection. At least Barry Lyndon was re released after that.

Umberto L.

over 3 years ago

“La dolce vita”, “8 1/2”, “Fellini-Satyricon”, “Fellini-Roma”, “Fellini-Casanova”, “Ginger e Fred”, “La voce della luna” by Federico Fellini.
“Salvatore Giuliano”, “Cadaveri Eccellenti” by Francesco Rosi.
“The Darjeeling Limited” by Wes Anderson.
“Mean Streets”, “Raging Bull”, “Bringing Out the Dead”, “Gangs of New York” by Martin Scorsese.
“Duel” by Steven Spielberg.
“Dr. Strangelove”, “A Clockwork Orange”, “Barry Lyndon”, “Eyes Wide Shut” by Stanley Kubrick.
“Limelight” by Charles Chaplin.
“Manhattan”, “Annie Hall”, “Match Point”, “Vicky Cristina Barcelona” by Allen Konigsberg.
“Sunset Blvd.” by Billy Wilder.
“Cabiria” by Giovanni Pastrone.
“Intolerance” by David W. Griffith.
“Que Viva Mexico” by Serjei Eisenstein.
“Det Sjunde Inseglet” by Ingmar Bergman.
“Roma Città Aperta” by Roberto Rossellini.
“Nuovo Cinema Paradiso”, “L’uomo delle stelle” by Giuseppe Tornatore.
“Gomorra” by Matteo Garrone.
“Notorious”, “Rope”, “Rear Window”, “Psycho”, “North by Northwest”, “Vertigo” by Alfred Hitchcock.

I think it’s everything for the moment.

Steve Oerkfit​z

over 3 years ago

Umberto-8 1/2 is in the Criterion collection. And the Darjeeling Limited is a terrible movie. Wes Andersons low point. Raging Bull has just had an excellent Blu Ray release elsewhere that I can’t see Criterion improving on.

nycsean

over 3 years ago

Anything by Hou Hsiao-Hsien that isn’t on North America DVD yet. City of Sadness in particular. It won in Venice and has never been available in the US on DVD.

Chinistroisecerstuder

over 3 years ago

Rumble Fish, from Coppola, Is greate, I don’ t like too much Coppola, but that one an Apocalypsis Now, there are very good.

Iza Larize

over 3 years ago

Polanski’s REPULSION, Cul-de-sac, CHINATOWN
Jacques Demy’s THE UMBRELLAS OF CHERBOURG
Nicholas Ray’s REBEL WITHOUT A CAUSE

Andrew Marcus

over 3 years ago

My life to Live – Goddard
The Trial of Joan of Arc – Bresson
The Mirror – Tarkovsky
Stalker – Tarkovsky

CineSna​g

over 3 years ago

I would really like to see CC versions of The Mirror and Stalker by Tarkovsky. The KINO versions are nice and all…but CC needs them. I would also like to go on record and say…what a perfect Eclipse set the Wim Wenders Road Movies would be…hint hint.

I like how this past year has seen the release of some more contemporary films (Ice Storm is the first thing that comes to mind, now Walker popped in there…but things of that nature). It would be nice to see some representations of contemporary stuff from some other countries. Before the Rain was fantabulous though, more releases along that nature would be ideal. The Human Condition…I know it’s coming, I just can’t stand the wait much longer.

Adempti​on

over 3 years ago

Kenneth Brannagh’s “Hamlet”

The second/third disc could include the now obscure “In the Bleak Midwinter” as an extra.

N. Bond

over 3 years ago

I’m jumping to the end of the thread, so sorry if any of these have already been mentioned:

Sam Raimi’s Crimewave (from a screenplay by Raimi and the Coen Brothers!)
Frank Zappa’s 200 Motels
Maurizio Nichetti’s Ladri di Saponette [The Icicle Thief]
Jonathan Demme’s Caged Heat
Arthur Hiller’s The Hospital

and ditto on some I know have already been mentioned:

Hal Ashby’s Harold and Maude
Robert Altman’s Brewster McCloud
Roman Polanski’s Repulsion
Lina Wertmuller’s Seven Beauties

N. Bond

over 3 years ago

…and I forgot to mention Álex de la Iglasia’s El Día de la Bestia [The Day of the Beast].

Walt Ostrand​er

over 3 years ago

FItzcarraldo
Night of the Hunter
La Terra Trema
Santa Sangre
Suspiria

Walt Ostrand​er

over 3 years ago

Also Tarkovsky’s “Nostalghia”

Kevin Nash

over 3 years ago

-Last Year at Marienbad

-The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford

-Wings of Desire

Fred O.

over 3 years ago

Detour (as stated by an earlier poster)
Babette’s Feast (with accurate subtitles and dubbing)
Tristana
Children of Men
Ealing comedies (any of them, but Whiskey Galore would be a great start)
Local Hero
Duck Soup (a film that is just screaming to be heavily supplemented)

Dorothé​e

over 3 years ago

Bin-jip / 3-Iron (Kim Ki-duk)

Cam Siemer

over 3 years ago

Sleuth
Love With the Proper Stranger
Dersu Uzala

Eric Morris Eskenaz​i

over 3 years ago

The Mother and The Whore
Satantango
Werckmeister Harmonies
The Decline of the Western Civilization
Bad Lieutnenant
Harold and Maude
The Landlord
Kids
Ken Park
Ms. 45
Barfly
The Big Lebowski
Raising Arizona
Dead Man
Repulsion
Irreversible
Scanners
I Stand Alone
Arizona Dream
Come and See
Urgh! A Music War
Red Desert
Buffalo 66
Heaven’s Gate
They Live
The Cook, The Thief, His Wife and Her Lover
Morvern Callar
Until The End of The World

Eric Morris Eskenaz​i

over 3 years ago

The Thin Red Line
Underground
Rosemary’s Baby
Kafka
King of The Hill
Kes
The Devils

David Goen

over 3 years ago

I want Bergman’s Face to Face. I want it before I die, ‘cause I’ve already been waiting for over thirty years and I can’t live forever. I have a copy of the screenplay book signed by Liv Ullman where she notes that it was a favorite film of hers. I only saw it once when it was originally released and I remember her performance as the most amazing thing I’ve ever seen on film.

N. Bond: Have you ever seen 200 Motels? I love me some Zappa, but seeing that once (also about thirty years ago) was enough for me. Although I must agree about where I live: “This Town is a Sealed Tuna Sandwich.”

N. Bond

over 3 years ago

Yeah, I’ve seen it. I actually have a VHS copy I taped off TV when Drive-In Classics played it last year. Admittedly, there is a nigh-on incomprehensibility about it, but frankly, I love it anyway (and I’ll take it over Baby Snakes any day). There were rumours of a DVD release a few years ago (Flo & Eddie supposedly recorded a commentary track) but so far nothing has materialized.

Michael Dalton

over 3 years ago

A re-issue of Hitchcock’s REBECCA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Michael Dalton

over 3 years ago

A re-issue of Hitchcock’s REBECCA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Michael Dalton

over 3 years ago

A re-issue of Hitchcock’s REBECCA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

wizdom

over 3 years ago

One False Move. Really overlooked and should be released.

wizdom

over 3 years ago

One False Move (1992) Directed by Carl Franklin. Billy Bob Thorton, Bill Paxton,Cynda Williams, Michael Beach. One of the most overlooked movies. Would look great on Criterion Collection.