No harping, Kate — I agree! We’ll get it together even better, this week, we WILL! :D
Sweet! I’m going to jot down some ideas I have about what we could do with the video.
I’ll try to make a nice promo video over the next few days.
I also wonder if any of those campaigns doing well has anything to do with the fact that they are on Kickstarter…!
Yes, I think Kickstarter gets way more traffic.
Anyone know why Kickstarter gets more traffic?…
It’s just a bigger site. It’s the original. Indiegogo is sort of a copycat site that sprung up later. The disadvantage of kickstarter, though, is you lose all the money if you don’t reach your goal, but that also creates a sense of urgency. I wonder if it would be out of the question for us to make a kickstarter campaign if our indiegogo effort doesn’t pan out.
“We’re the largest funding platform for creative projects in the world.” Besides that source of information from their site, I don’t know why it would get more traffic. It even started a year after IndieGoGo!
Man, if thirty days turning into ten days turning into five days turning into no more days doesn’t create a sense of urgency for people to donate, then I don’t know what will. BUT the thought of the fundraisers not getting any money if they don’t reach their goal does make people want to donate more, I’m sure.
Oh really! I’ll eat my words then. So kickstarter is the copycat site I guess, but it gets a lot more press and seems more popular.
I’ve seen a little on Twitter that as you get closer to your end date, it gets to be more exciting (if desperate) and the number of messages you’re sending pleading for money then tends to activate people a bit more. That’s what DiB was referring to when he said a month is like years in Internet time.
edit – useless information
Ok, so I saw those videos on Kickstarter. Meh. The first one had a salacious plot line, need we say more? The second one is probably closer to what we want to get to, but with some actual clips of the films in progress. The last well, zzz…
The most interesting thing to me is people talking about the film, what inspired them, etc. etc.. Without funky background music, like in the first. If you’re saying something interesting, and you know how to say it in an interesting manner, you shouldn’t have music in the background like some teenage soap opera on tv.
As well, I have a feeling based on the not very huge number of donors relative to the money they were asking for in the last clip, that these filmmakers to begin with had some “peeps” to contribute significantly. The middle one is the one that had the most contributors — meaning lots of smaller donations. That’s probably going to have to be us.
I think we should have everyone talk about what interests them about the project, talk about what the project is and ask for help funding and then just cut and edit different quotes from everybody so then we get the point across and it can be a little more personal because people will get to see who they are donating to.
Yes, that would be a great idea, Tremolo! It needs to be emphasized, unlike the videos Kate posted (i.e. our project is not a straight forward story, I realize she posted these only as examples of different approaches), that this is a collaborative endeavor involving lots of little films by different people. That needs to stand out immediately, and the concept of “ergodic” should be explained in layman’s terms.
Speaking of layman’s terms for describing “ergodic,” tonight I thought about two books I have at home for children. The first is something I got at a birthday party when I was pretty young. The second is one I got for my kids, Imagine by Norman Messenger, but it’s quite the book.
Anyway what these books have in common is the idea of taking an animal, dividing it into two or three parts, and being able to flip back and forth and combine body parts from different animals to make a new one, albeit a very strange one (this one from Imagine, two pages that are folded to achieve this effect with various animals). To me, this is very much the way our stories can be combined, except it’s taking place electronically rather than by hand, and it’s a moving image rather than an illustration.
Also… can you guys use anything from what I already made for a status video, or do you need me to do a whole new one? Just asking, because it will be difficult for me to get a new one done before the end of the week, I really have to wait till the weekend to do it if we MUST have an indication of the scenery outside, and I do already explain what drew me to the project in that status video. (Although it is a pretty lo-res video done with a webcam, as I wasn’t thinking it was going to public in quite this way when I made it).
Either way let me know. I can do a new one but if you can use a clip from my old one that would also be cool with me.
Apropos, I could do a new video and begin to explain the ergodic concept by holding up those pages from Imagine or my other little book from long ago and demonstrate what they do. At least as a start.
I like the idea of you describing how the project works while using the book. That is a really good idea!
Ok, I’ll give it a shot! :D
How’s everything going with the budding new promo videos?
Mubians — help us out please, every little bit helps!
The Ergodic Cinema Project
How come the videos?
I’m going to be working on mine this weekend.
I like the idea of Google Earth, just have to find a way to make it new — many commercials use this sort of thing (like telecommunications companies).
NP. Just let me know when and I’ll try to edit something together.
I’m not so much focusing on the video now, but making some flyers that everyone can print copy and spread about. And some pamphlets too. I too will try to work on mine during the weekend.
This has become a second communications thread…. NON-ERGODIC MEMBERS! Speak up! What can we do to help you help us achieve art? :)
Please help us make it happen, Mubians!
We’ve less than three weeks left to fund our project.
Is there a deadline for raising the funds? (I’ll try to find the time to donate something.)
There are 17 days left after which IndyGoGo ceases to accept donations on our behalf.
Done! Wish you all success!