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MY MISGIVINGS

liz

almost 3 years ago

Justin, when I read you saying this: “What the trolls hate is sincerity. I’ve come to this conclusion if nothing else. They prey on people who sincerely try to express what they feel and think — whether because it’s an “easy target” or because they themselves are baffled and ashamed of people who are still human. It’s humanity — and the ability to be human on a board like this — that I am talking about.”

I think of what I said in my post: “But anyway, it’s one the most monumentally stupid and pathetic things that I have ever heard that someone would commit a great deal of their time just getting on someone else’s nerves. I mean, I’m sure it’s a sign of a painfully weak and insecure mind.”

The point is that I think you should see trolling for the pathetic thing it is, and not see it as an attack on you. You’re right that they hate sincerity. But they don’t prey on anything, they just like being stupid little pieces of shit because they feel like they’re being attacked whenever they see someone who isn’t as incredibly negative as them. They’re much more insecure than you’ll ever be. Don’t let them get to you. If you get more trolls messaging you, let them know that they’re a waste of life and then let it go.

harryke​rry

almost 3 years ago

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Jaspar Lamar Crabb

almost 3 years ago

This has to rate as the most bizarre forum topic imaginable.

House of Leaves

-moderator-
almost 3 years ago

Jaspar: You should make a Fake Criterion cover for it ;)

harryke​rry

almost 3 years ago

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LordEdg​e

almost 3 years ago

what the hell is going on in this thread? Can anyone link to any crazy drama? =))))

Jaspar Lamar Crabb

almost 3 years ago

I can’t even begin to think of what a fake cover of this thread would look like.

Mike Spence

almost 3 years ago

It would look like the creature from the end of the first Harry Potter movie.

Christi​ne

almost 3 years ago

Liz, I have to say that I don’t agree with your assessment of trolls. I think it’s less about insecurity, and more about getting laughs out of other people’s misery. The more upset you get, the more they win, and the more they enjoy it. I have friends that have trolled in the past, and they just find it hilarious how riled up people get. Not a single one I know is miserable. Instead, they got a thrill out of anonymously getting people angry. It’s a power trip. A lot of trolls view the internet as a playground, and anyone who takes themselves seriously is fair game. “The internet is serious business,” is a troll mantra in a lot of circles.

Justin, my advice to you is just to ignore whoever is bothering you. Don’t add fuel to the fire, and notify a moderator if possible. The forum would do well with an “ignore user” or “block user” option as well.

Mike Spence

almost 3 years ago

i don’t know I think if you take that much pleasure in getting people angry you might have a problem with insecurity. Then again, to take it back to film terms, perhaps your friends are like Donald Sutherland and Elliot Gould in MASH, 2 guys who enjoy puncturing sacred cows because they feel the modes and mores they see around them are so much less important than the death they deal with on a daily basis. The trolling on here is so juvenile, though, that I can’t see any fully formed agenda behind it.

Allow me to summarize the agenda behind trolling:

Specifically, about 48 seconds in.

oopyman

almost 3 years ago

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Mike Spence

almost 3 years ago

“you are all egomaniacs, if you want to watch yourself masturbate then use a mirror not a film forum.”
So you see, Christine, Justin, et al, there is an underlying insecurity in these folks. Egomaniacs don’t really bother intelligent people, they simply correct an egomaniac on their mistake. The level of anger displayed by these folks over someone being “pretentious” can only come from an inability to counter an argument with a well formed argument of one’s own.
Again, to relate it to film, think of how angry a character like Jake LaMotta gets when he doesn’t understand something. It’s not quite the same but it’s a similar mentality.

oopyman

almost 3 years ago

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I still think “a guy in a tuxedo suddenly getting a pie to the face” is all one really needs to know or understand.

Incidentally, guys in tuxedos suddenly getting pies to the face is funny as fuck.

Mike Spence

almost 3 years ago

I didn’t care for the mise en scene of the guy in tuxedo suddenly getting a pie to the face. Oh, and could you explain the metaphor a few more times? I’d love to read it after I pick up my tux from the cleaners.
What’s actually funny is guys throwing water balloons and having them splash all over themselves.

Hey, as long as it makes a mess.

Christi​ne

almost 3 years ago

Love the pie fight, Sensational!

I feel like most posters everywhere have a problem similar to this.

liz

almost 3 years ago

“Again, to relate it to film, think of how angry a character like Jake LaMotta gets when he doesn’t understand something.”

I think that pretty much sums it up, Mike.

Mike Spence

almost 3 years ago

Thanks and there is also an irrational fear and envy for those who are actually passionate about something. Think of how many of these trolls respond with “who cares” or “it doesn’t matter.” They have nothing in their own lives they really give two shits about so when they see a forum of people actually give thoughful consideration to ANYTHING, it irks them. They are similar to the morons who slash great works of art in museums, but actually even more sad because those folks sometimes do it out of an obsessive love for art as opposed to the trolls, who do it out of an obessive hatred for themselves.
Either way, the best way to defeat them is just to keep talking about film passionately. They won’t go away or learn anything, but they will suffer :)

oopyman

almost 3 years ago

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House of Leaves

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almost 3 years ago

I do. There you go.

People who are happy don’t act like that.

Fandori​n-san

almost 3 years ago

wait… what’s going on???

oopyman

almost 3 years ago

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oopyman

almost 3 years ago

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Mike Spence

almost 3 years ago

Hilarious, they got angry and I missed the whole thing. I’m a bit angry about the new CC releases but instead of trolling I just decided to continue enjoying life and the films I love. Silly trolls :)

Rich Uncle Skeleton

almost 3 years ago

Oh, Jesus Christ. Pity party much?

It’s a god damn forum!

and as a matter of fact, you didn’t sink to my level, you went below it, because I’ve never enganged in making unfounded personal comments about you, yet.

This is the internet, learn that if you say something in a public forum people will disagree with you, in some cases vigorously. If you don’t like that I quote some of your posts and ridicule them, stop writing stupid shit. This is worse than that “are we tired of talking about hollywood films” thread. Complete, self-indulgent elitist b.s.. If you want to go someplace and have a private conversation and agree with each other, start a listserve.

Of course, it’s a lot easier to assume that someone who disagrees with you is crazy, or jealous, or a criminal (as you insinuated), or an idiot, or any number of things before actually admitting that you often have nothing of real substance to add and that what you write on the internet (all of us) is completely without value.

If you really feel impressed by your credentials, good for you, they’ve brought you to using all your energy to post on internet forums.

and as for being published: so is Jodi Picoult, congratulations.

get over yourselves.

Adam Lippe

almost 3 years ago

@RUS

You plagiarized my entire post.

Hopefully it works.

Rich Uncle Skeleton

almost 3 years ago

@Adam

Just read your post. Glad to know I’m not inside some bubble where the internet has no meaning.

Grimy Peter

almost 3 years ago

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