@Filmflam: I was aware that IN A LONELY PLACE involved a murder investigation, that may have even had Dick Steel (what a name!) as a suspect. However, I construed the original post to mean that the film didn’t have any ACTUAL on-screen deaths or murders. As with “aspirations,” if we eliminated all films that even mentioned death or murder, we’d have very few to choose from.
@Roscoe: I guess I have to go back to taking that ginkoba for memory. Although the death in MASH is of a minor character, that should count, especially (as you say) since it prompts an emotional reaction.
You know, they say that there are three signs of advancing age. One is loss of memory…I forget the other two. :-)
I was going to go through my own collection, but before even entering the alphabet (in the numerics alone) there was 3-Iron and 400 Blows.
So I’m thinking that I’ll have too many to list.
@Dr. Frank. I would not put In a Lonely Place on the list because a murder takes place just after the victim , the hat-check girl, and the main character, Dix, have spent a fair amount of screen time together at his place just before she is murdered.
Anyway—and way off topic— do you have a favorite book about classic film noir?
@Filmflam: There are a few good books on film noir, which I’ll list below, but one of the best things ever written on the subject are some short articles on the subject:
J. Place & L. S. Petersen, “Visual Motifs in Film Noir,” in Bill Nichols, ed. MOVIES AND METHODS, vol. 1.Paul Schrader, “Notes on Film Noir,” in Kevin Jackson, ed., SCHRADER ON SCHRADER.
The books are:
Alain Silver & James Ursini, eds. FILM NOIR READER (1996)
Ian Cameron, ed. THE MOVIE BOOK OF FILM NOIR
Joan Copjec, ed. SHADES OF NOIR: A READERE. Ann Kaplan, ed. WOMEN IN FILM NOIR
Foster Hirsch, THE DARK SIDE OF THE SCREEN: FILM NOIR
R. Barton Palmer. HOLLYWOOD’S DARK CINEMA
_____. PERSPECTIVES ON FILM NOIR.James Naremore, MORE THAN NIGHT: FILM NOIR IN ITS CONTEXT
If I had to recommend only ONE book, it would be the Naremore volume.
Finally, one of the best film books I’ve ever read, although NOT strictly speaking entirely about the film noir period, is:
Richard Martin, MEAN STREETS AND RAGING BULLS: THE LEGACY OF FILM NOIR IN CONTEMPORARY AMERICAN CINEMA
I hope this helps.
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@Dr. Frank . Thank You.
Frank, I know it maybe hard for you to believe but I have a first degree in film theories. I never really liked the academic world though and I’m not sure it really likes me.
Marvel: What prompted this? Am I missing something?
Academe is not for everyone, and vice-versa.
BTW, what’s a “first degree” in film theories? I know from BAs, BSs, BFAs. I also know of “the third degree,” which is sometimes how school seems to some students, but I must confess that I never heard of a “first degree.”
Another BTW, what happened to the original topic? Did I list ALL the films that have no death or dreams (including a few that did)?
frank I have a BA in philosophy since marvel mentions his education
was just curious do u know any books that contain much about the ritz brothers?
I am researching in hopes of writing a bio one day and outside of some fan mags from long ago and film dictionaries there is very little out there
there are a large number of films to get back on topic
including most of Henry Jaglom’s work and the work of Jafar Panahi
Den: I don’t know of an entire book on the Ritz Brothers, but there are chapters and sections on them in several volumes.
You can find a bunch to choose from on Google Books: http://books.google.com/books?q=ritz+brothers&oq=ritz+br
I generally like the book by Henry Jenkins but he may not have much material on the Ritzes.
BTW, my BA is also in Philosophy. But when I graduated, the big philosophy firms weren’t hiring…
you got that right frank and i think they were the first ones hit in this new recession (:
thank u for the links
For what it’s worth. You can get a 3rd which is like a D grade. A 2:2 which is like a C. A 2:1 which is like a B grade and a 1st or a first. I think you can also get a distinction but I never got that! Surely there is a similar system in the US?
Isn’t there a book called Death 24x a Second? Which is also about the relationship between death and the moving image.
Little Miss Sunshine….. no murder, or violence.. just laughs… well,.. maybe a sequence where the teenage boy goes bizarko. .. but that was pretty funny.
M. Hulot’s Holiday
Spirit Of The Beehive (Though that’s kind of dreamlike)
Themis, there is the death of a major character in LITTLE MISS SUNSHINE.
Themis: Roscoe is right. The Alan Arkin character, Grandpa, dies and that slows up the journey somewhat in LITTLE MISS SUNSHINE. The way they deal with the body is sort of comical( in a dark humor kind of way) but that has to count as a death.
(I was corrected on a couple of my selections, too, which shows that there are not that many films that manage to sustain drama — or even comedy — without death.)
There can’t be movie with no dream or death….either it was inspired anyway from these topics or touches it somehow during, it is like everything we think about in this era is war, when? where? people are only statistics And dreams…help us around not to cope so much with this war…
I could only remember the movie Dazed and Confused…and if looking deeper, they are the slackers that later on Linklater developed, so they are dreamers by what they do,a euphorical life, and they were hippies…and hippies are a reply to war…
I recently realised this…so our modern generations are kind of…fucked up.