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Polaris​DiB

over 1 year ago

I dare say these following things, with truthfulness:

1) Spielberg has topped anything he’s ever done. This is his current masterpiece. Shudder and claw your ears if you dislike the word, I mean it literally.

2) This is the reason why animation exists. Every single CGI animation that has come out in the past 15 years was to develop the technology for this to exist.

3) I’ve been completely meh about 3D. This movie, not gonna lie, I’ll watch it in 2D but I can’t even imagine it right now. It’s 3D-ness is it’s Tintinness is its Spielbergness is its Edgar Wright and Joe Cornishness is its existence.

I also liked the story and the pacing and the characters, they were pretty good too. I also loved a lot of it’s surreality, and I don’t mean uncanny valley surreality, I mean intentional “Look, a ship riding an ocean over the waves of sand dunes and then turning into a puddle and getting stepped on by police investigators!” surreality.

—PolarisDiB

Dennis Brian

over 1 year ago

wish I could be interested here, maybe if he does a version of Asterix and Obelix.

Polaris​DiB

over 1 year ago

Hey Dennis,

you know how you’re always going on about how movies need to be shorter and really keep their pacing up and flow by smoothly without boring you?

See this goddamned movie.

—PolarisDiB

Dennis Brian

over 1 year ago

I probably will. I did notice that it is 105 mins, good length for a kid epic.

ruby stevens

over 1 year ago

ok i’m excited

Ben Simingt​on

over 1 year ago

Wow. This was unexpected. I love Tintin. Love animation. Definitely think Spielberg can be great. But just didn’t think from the trailer that it had added up. Same with HUGO, and I’m hearing they’re both amazing movies. Great. Thanks. Excited.

Brad S.

over 1 year ago

Just to be clear. This is nothing like the Zemeckis Polar Expressy Stuff, right? (and not like Avatar either, I’d hope.)

Polaris​DiB

over 1 year ago

It’s what Zemeckis’ Polar Express was dreaming of, what it wanted to be at a time that was just too early for it and didn’t have the right technology. And it’s pretty much nothing like Avatar. But I’m serious about the development of CG animation point. This pulls the best ideas and techniques from every CG company I’ve yet seen.

It also uses the camera better than any CG animated movie I’ve seen.

—PolarisDiB

Spencer

over 1 year ago

Somehow I doubt that this is as good a film as Schindler’s List or Saving Private Ryan, but I’ll reserve judgement until I’ve seen it. Don’t get me wrong; I AM looking forward to this. I’m just not expecting a career-crowning masterpiece.

House of Leaves

-moderator-
over 1 year ago

^ Those films aren’t that great.

ruby stevens

over 1 year ago

yeah, if it’s not better than those i’ll be sorely disappointed. i liked munich a lot tho

Spencer

over 1 year ago

Says you, House of Leaves. I absolutely love both of them, especially Saving Private Ryan. Although, that’s probably because I haven’t seen Schindler’s List in a long time, so SPR is more fresh in my mind.

House of Leaves

-moderator-
over 1 year ago

Yes, says me. Don’t get me wrong, the battle sequences are some of the best ever made, but the script and the cast are very weak, and the bookends way too sentimental and completely unnecessary.

Schindler’s Lists problems run deeper, but there are those who feel stronger about it that I do on this site.

Dennis Brian

over 1 year ago

it is not great cinema but beats the hell out of Malick’s return/decline of that same year.

ruby stevens

over 1 year ago

there’s some forum discussion about the problems of schindler’s list if you’re interested, spencer

Kurt Walker

-moderator-
over 1 year ago

His masterpiece? I doubt this could top the heights of A.I. (which gets my vote for the best film made in post-classical hollywood), but it still looks pretty damn fun.

johnsonisjohnson

over 1 year ago

“I doubt this could top the heights of A.I. (which gets my vote for the best film made in post-classical hollywood)”

Amen, Kurt. Still, Tintin looks like it will be one of the finest of the year for me. I hope the same for War Horse.

Spencer

over 1 year ago

I have yet to see A.I., but it’s near the top of my To Do list. Just seeing how it splits people makes me want to see it and decide for myself how good it is. Hopefully it doesn’t disappoint me the way Vanilla Sky did.

If for nothing else, I’ll be seeing Tintin to see how the motion capture stacks up against films like Polar Express. I’m probably in the minority here, but I actually like Polar Express. I understand a lot of people find mo-cap characters off-putting, but I never seemed to have that problem… until I took a closer look at Mars Meets Moms. I didn’t watch the movie, but looking at stills of the characters for too long just… shudder Judging from the trailer and stills that I’ve seen, Tintin doesn’t seem to have that problem, which is a huge relief.

Dimitri​s Psachos

over 1 year ago

So people here still think A.I. is a masterpiece, interesting…for the record, Spielberg hasn’t made a decent entertaining film since Jurassic Park (Schindler requires a whole discussion thread regarding pros and cons) and he even had plenty of ups and downs prior to it, not to mention the failures of the Tom Hanks films, that despicable Cruise vehicle and the bombastic epics of Amistad and Munich, each in their respective chronologies. If the only film I enjoyed of his post-Private Ryan period is actually…Indiana Jones ( Jack Lehtonen will agree with me ;) ), that doesn’t help my expectations in wanting something more from Tin Tin and its Hollywood adaption. Sure, it looks polished compared to the other Francophone comic adaptions of past years (and the recent Smurfs travesty) but not only I doubt it will reach my top 10 Spielberg, I doubt it will make me re-consider the CGI animated features I pretty much admire.

In any case, I will be seeing it simply because Spielberg was one of the major reasons I started being interested in cinema from a little boy, so I may as well keep on track with the whole of his filmography till his end of days, heh….

Dennis Brian

over 1 year ago

I agree with dimitris

Jurassic Park is great (the sequels are horrible tho) and before that The Last Crusade and before that..I can’t remember.

ruby stevens

over 1 year ago

aww dimitris, calling spielberg an inspiration makes me want to give u a hug =)

not too crazy about jurassic park myself but dinosaurs might be more of a guy thing…

Dimitri​s Psachos

over 1 year ago

I don’t know Ruby, I think you ought to give Stevie a hug…I even find the Jurassic Park trailer more enjoyable than the Tin Tin one!!!

Here’s to comparison, haha:

MUNICH. No doubt this is the best Spielberg’s movie by far. It is his first attempt (successful) to make a film for adults.

David Ehrenst​ein

over 1 year ago

Can’t agree with you on this paolaris.
“Image Capture” produces inexpressive huymanoid charaters capable of only one or two expressions a piece. Snowy is more interesting than Tin Tin in this regard.

Plus the script is really slight. Nothing at stake in solving this mystery at all,IMO.

Polaris​DiB

over 1 year ago

““Image Capture” produces inexpressive huymanoid charaters capable of only one or two expressions a piece. Snowy is more interesting than Tin Tin in this regard.”

I completely disagree in this case, the facial expressions were pretty brilliant and I actually have worked behind facial mocap before enough to know the work they put into this thing. You spend a lot of time watching Haddock’s face, it’s great.

“Plus the script is really slight. Nothing at stake in solving this mystery at all,IMO.”

Every line of the script pushes this movie forward and it’s almost like the camera is racing to catch up with its own story (especially near the end, which works to great effect). As for nothing at stake…. have you read Tintin?

Old school. That’s what this adventure is.

—PolarisDiB

Jazzalo​ha

over 1 year ago

@DiB

I didn’t have much interest in this, but your OP has changed that a bit. Those are some strong statements. However, after scanning the thread, I have to ask—which films do you think are Spielberg’s best? So far people haven’t mentioned the ones I think are the best, which would be earlier films like Jaws, Raiders of the Lost Ark and maybe even Close Encounters and Duel. There are flashes of greatness if the films that followed, but these are his best—or at least my favorites, anyway.

Kenji

over 1 year ago

I’ve not seen it but the trailer i saw was a complete turn-off. My impression was that it’s a rollercoaster ride abomination that has lost the spriit of the books but maybe they wanted to make it look all exciting action. Tintin and Haddock looked anaemic and to have lost their character. It looked like Spielberg had taken incidents from other stories as well as le Trésor de Rackham le Rouge, which along with Le Secret de la Licorne is my own favourite. Many Tintin books are great fun, but some early ones in particular are racist, e.g Tintin in Congo.

So it’s Spielberg’s masterpiece? That does come as a surprise.

Kenji

over 1 year ago

““Image Capture” produces inexpressive huymanoid charaters capable of only one or two expressions a piece. Snowy is more interesting than Tin Tin in this regard.”

That was the off-putting impression i got from the trailer. I couldn’t imagine liking the film

Kenji

over 1 year ago

Kenji

over 1 year ago

I see it gets 7.8/10 on imdb- respectable but nothing very exciting. Not that imdb ratings are a top guide (far from it) but in this case it would imply it lacks a wow factor for many viewers. I see it’s partially based on Le Crabe aux Pinces d’Or, as i’d thought, and amazingly- no Prof Tournesol!!?? I’ll have to see what the Tintin aficionados make of it compared with newcomers