It’s the year of silence?
I think Fassbender’s penis deems Shame ineligible. Provokes too much penis envy among heterosexual male voters.
hahahaha
Oy
Daniel Vincent: I don’t like the idea that this poll is dictated by IMDB’s arbitrary selection of year.
There is some arbitrariness to IMDB but it’s certainly not purely arbitrary. And for all your complaining, you haven’t cited a viable alternative. What definitive source can people turn to in order to decide whether a film qualifies for 2011? I could have made the qualification that the release had to be during 2011 in a specified country (the U.S. would be easiest for me since I live here), but that would have created some disgruntlement as well. If there is a better alternative than IMDB, than let me know and I will consider it strongly.
Daniel Vincent: What harm would it do to allow shorts? Do you believe a short film would top the polls (as if that would somehow damage the list anyways)?
You just provided the reason why shorts are excluded. If I have to tally up hundreds of movies, I don’t need to create even more work for myself to tally up movies that have little chance to make the top 5 nominees. At the same time, I can’t simply ignore such films during the tally because, hey, you never know.
Best Picture:
1) The Ballad of Genesis and Lady Jaye (Marie Loisier)
2) Super 8 (J J Abrams)
3) The Turin Horse (Bela Tarr)
NOTE: The IMDB’S 2011 rule makes this a difficult one, but I agree with it. Hugs!
I’m apprehensive about voting because of the imdb rule though my favorite film of the year would make the cut with that rule but imdb also lists Absentia as a video although I do believe it briefly played a theatrical run in LA and a handful of festivals.
I will vote once I hear back from the guy who created this thread :)
There is some arbitrariness to IMDB but it’s certainly not purely arbitrary.
If it’s not purely arbitrary then explain the 2010 dated movie with two 2011 festival releases and nothing else listed. There was a time that I thought it meant the first festival date, then it seemed to match the first high-profile festival date, and then it all fell apart the more I looked.
And for all your complaining, you haven’t cited a viable alternative. What definitive source can people turn to in order to decide whether a film qualifies for 2011? I could have made the qualification that the release had to be during 2011 in a specified country (the U.S. would be easiest for me since I live here), but that would have created some disgruntlement as well.
How about this, none. A movie that was released in 2011 in your country or abroad. It works for every other critic poll.
http://www.bfi.org.uk/sightandsound/polls/films-of-2011-full.php
http://www.bfi.org.uk/sightandsound/polls/films-of-2010-full.php
As you can see there is some crossover (Socialisme, Uncle Boonme, Nostalgia for the Light, Poetry, Nicolae Ceausescu, etc), and that’s one of the best and most useful lists I’ve seen; it’s also very popular here. I don’t recall any complaints that critics were allowed to choose at their own comfort.
You just provided the reason why shorts are excluded. If I have to tally up hundreds of movies, I don’t need to create even more work for myself to tally up movies that have little chance to make the top 5 nominees. At the same time, I can’t simply ignore such films during the tally because, hey, you never know.
I can understand that, it is a lot of work and if you don’t feel up to that, that’s fine. It is quite a chore to accept a project like this and I’ve been quite grateful for those that were done in the past. I’m just disappointed that the only way for me to participate in this one is with heavy compromise, and seeing how many others listed Meek’s Cutoff and other films that must be disregarded I am not alone. So I’m going to have to pass, even though, in theory, I love the idea.
imdb also lists Absentia as a video although I do believe it briefly played a theatrical run in LA and a handful of festivals.
I was too much in a hurry to get anything out about that yesterday. I don’t think video and TV movies should be disregarded either. In fact one of my favorite directors has (TV) after most of his credits: Alan Clarke
It also disqualifies Catherine Breillat’s last movie, The Sleeping Beauty, which I’ve seen in some 2011 lists, and the incredible The Unloved would have to miss out too, but of course that’s 2009. Then again Redline is listed as 2009 and I have that on my current 2011 ratings diary.
How about this, none. A movie that was released in 2011 in your country or abroad. It works for every other critic poll.
I just can’t see this working within the context of this poll. There has to be a consistent frame of reference that everyone can follow, regardless of which country they’re in and when they happened to see stuff. IMdB is ideal because it prints a definite year next to every film that we can all go by. The fact that the year of release may be ambiguous if one considers festival releases etc. is largely irrelevant for the purposes of this game. It’s more important that everyone’s working from the same source imo.
Actually, Daniel has swayed me. I will go ahead and count any film submitted that IMDB lists as 2010 so long as IMDB also shows a release date in at least one country for 2011. So a 1991 movie like A Brighter Summer Day that got its first U.S. commercial release this year still is not eligible. If this means you want to resubmit your list, please go ahead and do so. It’s still early enough for me to re-tabulate without difficulty.
I know that Breillat’s Sleeping Beauty was released theatrically in the United States and so it’s allowed under the rules. The rule is not that tv movies are ruled out. It is tv movies with no theatrical run whatsoever are ruled out.
In that case, I think I’ll partake in this (despite there being many films I’ve yet to see):
Best Picture
- The Tree of Life
- Drive
- Certified Copy
Best Direction
- The Tree of Life
- Drive
- Hugo
Best Writing
1) Certified Copy
2) Midnight in Paris
3) The Descendants
Best Lead Performance
- Juliette Binoche – Certified Copy
- Michael Fassbender – Shame
- Ryan Gosling – Drive
Best Supporting Performance
- Brad Pitt – The Tree of Life
- Charlotte Gainsbourg – Melancholia
- Albert Brooks – Drive
Best Cinematography
- The Tree of Life
- Drive
- Melancholia
Best Editing
- Drive
- The Tree of Life
- The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo
Best Score
1) Drive
2) The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo
3) The Tree of Life
Best Production Design
- 13 Assassins
- Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy
- Hugo
Special Recognition
Most purely fun/enjoyable- Attack the Block
I hope to have seen a lot of the other films mentioned before the final vote rolls around.
Oops, I miss-read the TV bit.
If there were a documentary category I would be complaining about not being able to nominate All Watched Over By Machines of Loving Grace. Bitch, bitch, bitch, I know. :P
I’ll try and get a list up tomorrow, as is I’m running on 3 hours of sleep in the past 24+ hours and I hate using my brain when I’m in this state.
yeah, there is a great deal of bitching going on, way too much bitching going on
…and then there’s the bitching about the bitching….
… And the bitchin’ about those bitchin’ about the bitchin’ …
It’s an endless cycle!
The only thing that’s constant is the baby’s cry.
Just a reminder you have 1 more week to submit your nominees.
Best Picture – 1. Terri………2.We Have A Pope……..3. Meek’s Cutoff
Best Direction – 1. We Have A Pope………..2. The Tree of Life………..3. The Skin I Live In
Best Writing – 1. Terri………..2. Meek’s Cutoff…………3. Attack the Block
Best Cinematography – 1. We Have A Pope……….2. The Tree of Life……….3. Meek’s Cutoff
Best Editing – 1. The Skin I Live In………..2. The Tree of Life………..3. The Kid With A Bike
Best Score – 1. The Tree of Life…………2. Meek’s Cutoff……….3. Attack the Block
Production Design – 1. Super 8………2. We Have A Pope………..3. The Skin I Live In
Special Recognion – Rise of the Planet of the Apes AND Andy Serkis for his work.
Best Picture
- The Tree of Life (2011)
- Melancholia (2011)
- The Skin I Live In (2011)
Best Director
- Terrence Malick (Tree of Life)
- Lars Von Trier (Melancholia)
- Steven Spielberg (Tintin)
Best Writing
- Woody Allen (Midnight in Paris)
- Augustín and Pedro Almodóvar (Skin i live in)
- Clooney, Heslov and Willimon (Ides of March)
Best Lead Performance
- Kirsten Dunst (Melancholia)
- Owen Wilson (Midnight in Paris)
- Ryan Gosling (Drive)
Best Supporting Performance
- Brad Pitt (Tree of Life)
- Jessica Chastain (Tree of Life)
- Michael Fassbender (X-Men: First Class)
Best Cinematography
- The Tree of Life
- Melancholia
- Drive
Best Editing
- Tree of Life
- Melancholia
- Tintin
Best Score
- Midnight in Paris
- Tree of Life
- Melancholia
Best Production Design
- Tree of Life
- Melancholia
- Midnight in Paris
Special Recognition
- Andy Serkis for his work in Tintin and Planet of Apes.
Best Picture
1. A Separation
2. The Turin Horse
3. Once Upon a Time in Anatolia
Best Direction
1. A Separation
2. The Mill and the Cross
3. The Skin I Live In
Best Writing
1. A Separation
2. The Mill and the Cross
3. Drive
Best Lead Performance
1. Thomas Doret – The Kid With a Bike
2. Haris Markou – Wasted Youth
3. Tilda Swinton – We Need to Talk About Kevin
Best Supporting Performance
1. Sareh Bayat – A Separation
2. Cécile de France – The Kid With a Bike
3. Jessica Chastain – The Help
Best Cinematography
1. The Mill and the Cross
2. Once Upon a Time in Anatolia
3. The Turin Horse
Best Editing
1. A Separation
2. The Skin I Live In
3. Drive
Best Score
1. The Turin Horse
2. The Skin I Live In
3. Drive
Best Production Design
1. The Mill and the Cross
2. The Turin Horse
3. Once Upon a Time in Anatolia
Best Picture – Drive, A Separation, Meek’s Cutoff
Best Direction – Nicolas Winding Refn, Drive
Best Writing – Asghar Farhadi, A Separation
Best Lead Performance – Michael Shannon, Take Shelter
Best Supporting Performance – Bruce Greenwood, Meek’s Cutoff
Best Cinematography – Manuel Alberto Claro, Melancholia
Best Editing – Joe Walker, Shame
Best Score – Cliff Martinez, Drive
Best Production Design- Laurence Bennett, The Artist
Best Picture:
1. The Guard————————2. Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy——————————3. Drive
Best Direction:
1. Super 8————————————2. Drive————————-3. Moneyball
Best Writing:
1. Turn me on Goddammit—————2. Midnight in Paris———————3. Moneyball
Best Lead Performance:
1. Aksel Hennie [Headhunters]—————-2. Kristen Wiig [Bridesmaids]————3. Kristen Dunst [Melancholia]
Best Supporting Performance:
1. Armie Hammer [J. Edgar]——————2. Anna Kendrick [50/50]——————3. Jonah Hill [Moneyball]
Best Cinematography:
1. Superclasico———————-2. Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy————-3. Drive
Best Editing:
1. Bullhead———————2. Drive———————3. The Girl with a Dragon Tattoo
Best Score:
1. Drive—————————2. Hanna———————3. Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy
Best Production Design:
1. Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy———-2. Harry Potter DH P2————3. 13 Assassins
Special Recognition:
1.Ensemble Acting for Midnight in Paris; Drive; and Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy.
2.Superb Action in Fast Five!
3. Debut Director: Richard Ayoade for Submarine
This is just the nomination stage, right? So if I were to nominate my favorites of what I have seen up to Feb 18, then I see new films that I prefer I can vote for them in the final round as long as they were nominated right?
That’s correct, Zach.
Thanks.
Best Picture
1. The Tree of Life
2. The Turin Horse
3. Shame
Best Direction
1, The Tree of Life
2. The Turin Horse
3. Faust
Best Writing
1.Alps
2. A Separation
3. Faust
Best Lead Performance
1. Tilda Swinton (We Need To Talk About Kevin)
2. Michael Fassbender (Shame)
3. Kirsten Dunst (Melancholia)
Best Supporting Performance
1. Carey Mulligan (Shame)
2. Hunter McCracken (The Tree of Life)
3. Leila Hatami (A Separation)
Best Cinematography
1. The Tree of Life
2. Wuthering Heights
3. The Turin Horse
Best Editing
1. The Tree of Life
2. The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo
3. A Separation
Best Score
1. The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo
2. Drive
3. Martha Marcy May Marlene
Best Production Design
1. Tinker, Tailor, Solider, Spy
2. The Tree of Life
3. Faust
Special Recognition
Silver Bullets, Attack the Block and Hugo.
Film: Mysteries of Lisbon
Direction: Raúl Ruiz (Mysteries of Lisbon)
Writing: Abbas Kiarostami (Certified Copy)
Lead Performance: Alfredo Castro (Post Mortem)
Supporting Performance: Sareh Bayat (A Separation)
Cinematography: André Szankowski (Mysteries of Lisbon)
Editing: Emmanuelle Joly & Patricio Guzmán (Nostalgia for the Light)
Music: Mihály Vig (The Turin Horse)
Production Design: Isabel Branco (Mysteries of Lisbon)
Special Recognition: Raúl Ruiz for lifetime achievement. Plus: Portuguese surgeon Eduardo Barroso, Valeria Sarmiento and everyone else who made it possible for Ruiz to continue working for an extra year.
These are all sorted alphabetically, so 2 points for all of them. :)
Best Picture:
Meek’s Cutoff
Melancholia
Tomboy
Best Direction:
The Future
Melancholia
The Turin Horse
Best Writing:
Everything Must Go
Hugo
Midnight in Paris
Best Lead Performance:
Everything Must Go – Will Ferrell
My Little Princess – Anamaria Vartolomei
Tomboy – Zoé Héran
Best Supporting Performance:
Hesher – Natalie Portman
Meek’s Cutoff – Bruce Greenwood
Melancholia – Charlotte Gainsbourg
Best Cinematography:
Meek’s Cutoff
The Mill and the Cross
The Turin Horse
Best Editing:
Bellflower
Drive
The Tree of Life
Best Score:
Arrietty
Drive
Hanna
Best Production Design:
Hugo
Meek’s Cutoff
The Mill and the Cross
Special Recognition:
Ben Rivers and Mark von Schlegell, for making the best film I couldn’t nominate, Slow Action. :P
It was actually quite challenging coming up with my list. I normally don’t think about which movies excel in certain areas when compared to other movies that I may like more overall. Thanks for the opportunity to do this. It was interesting.
I normally finish all my previous year viewings by February and tally everything up then, so I admit there’s a few movies I haven’t seen yet that may have ended up here (Guilty of Romance, The Kid with a Bike, Norwegian Wood, etc). This was a nice warm-up though. :)
Santino
lol @ all the complaining.
@Ari – A Dangerous Method isn’t eligible. Too much talking.