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The Making of The Auteurs' Film Canon, Essential 100 Films: What do you think?

ralch

over 2 years ago

Well, in my list there are a couple with over 3,000 votes, like Trust and La Grande Bouffe
buy, you know wha?
I
ain’t
changin’
SHIT!!

make of it what you will.

ralch

over 2 years ago

^^
“but”, not “buy”. (:^D)

scorpio​rising

over 2 years ago

My 20th Century is the bomb. Ooops, I should show my impartiality before any voting starts but I still say it’s awesome.

And I knew I could expect some gore and horror choices from Dimitris. Hahaha.

And I’ll try to be quiet about the other favorites that have been nominated so far.

scorpio​rising

over 2 years ago

There is also the big chance that mediocre films would be eliminated before the first rounds so I don’t think there should be any problem. And it’s also hard for me to keep track of the nominated films that have received more than 3000 votes.

But I do thank the people who have notified the others about repetitions and films that have been included in either list. I’m still working on compiling all the films, so just you wait.

Glemaud

over 2 years ago

Ohhhh. We’re going to be voting. Then I guess it’s fine.

scorpio​rising

over 2 years ago

@ Blue K: I know, 20 films for each user is not enough for me either.

But like I said, if we are in desperate need of more participants and no one else with a decent list following the rules and limitations has participated, some can volunteer to include 20 more of their choices. I volunteer too :P.
My ideal goal is 800 films, 40 lists.

Here’s mine…

1. Lonesome (Pál Fejös, 1928, U.S.)
2. The Headless Woman (Lucrecia Martel, 2008, Argentina)
3. Intention Of Murder(Shohei Imamura, 1964, Japan)
4. The Scenic Route (Mark Rappaport, 1978, U.S.)
5. The Most Important Thing Is To Love (Andrzej Żuławski, 1975, France)
6. Red Psalm (Miklós Jancsó, 1972, Hungary)
7. Mikey & Nickey (Elaine May, 1976, U.S.)
8. New Wave (Jean- Luc Godard, 1990, France)
9. The Horse Thief (Tian Zhuangzhuang, 1986, China)
10. Love Affair, or the Case of the Missing Switchboard Operator (Dušan Makavejev, 1967, Yugoslavia)
11. The Wayward Cloud (Tsai Ming-liang, 2005, Taiwan)
12. Outer Space Peter (Peter Tscherkassky, 1999, Austria)
13.Terra em Transe (Glauber Rocha, 1967, Brazil)
14. Four Nights Of A Dreamer (Robert Bresson, 1971, France
15. Secrets & Lies (Mike Leigh,1996, U.K.)
16. The Face of Another (Hiroshi Teshigahara, 1966, Japan)
17. A Summer At Grandpa’s (Hou Hsiao-hsien, 1984, Taiwan,)
18. Ariel (Aki Kaurismäki, 1988, Finland)
19. Mirror Mechanics (Siegfried A. Fruhauf ,2005, Austria)
20. Film Ist. (Gustav Deutsch, 1998 – 2004, Austria)

Jack Lehtone​n

over 2 years ago

I’m in, though I need to think about it first.

Tom B

over 2 years ago

And mine:

Fantomas (1913/1914, France)
Sur un air de Charleston (France, 1927)
The Fall of the House of Usher (France, 1928)
Gone to Earth (UK, 1950)
What Price Glory (USA, 1952)
Twisted Nerve (UK, 1968)
The Rain People (USA, 1969)
The Great Ecstasy of Woodcarver Steiner (Germany, 1974)
The Big Racket (Italy, 1976)
Nighthawks (UK, 1978)
Pepi, Luci, Bom (spain, 1980)
Querelle (Germany, 1982)
Tokyo-Ga (Germany, 1985)
Marriage of the Blessed (Iran, 1989)
The Red Squirrel (Spain, 1993)
Bad Boy Bubby (Australia, 1993)
Xiao Wu/Pickpocket (China 1997)
Dil Se (India, 1998)
The Yards (USA, 2000)
The Fall (India/UK/USA, 2006)

Glemaud

over 2 years ago

Please refer to the new thread:

As I Was Browsing The Auteurs, Occasionally I Saw Brief Glimpses of Beauty: In the Process of Making A Film Buff’s Guide to Alternative Cinema

Tom B – You have too many films from the US. The film that’s not helping you is The Fall, since it’s from a US production company, I think that counts as a US film. It puts you over on UK films as well.

Tom B

over 2 years ago

Ok, I’ll swap The Fall.

I’ll have Machuca (Chile, 2004) instead.

the corduro​y suit

over 2 years ago

why are six of my selections ineligible ?

Jason Hale

over 2 years ago

There are actually 7 of your selections that are ineligible. Au Hasard Balthazar, The Blood of a Poet, Le Feu Follet, Time of the Gypsies, Landscape in the Mist, The Sacrifice, and Kes are all in the TSPDT top 1000 list. The criteria have evolved somewhat into an alternative canon. See the new thread 2 posts before your own for the new criteria. By the way, ScorpioRising is waiting to receive your revised list. This thread is now defunct, pretty much. Check out the new one….

Uli³Cai​n

almost 2 years ago

This was an interesting concept

apursan​sar

almost 2 years ago

I agree with you, Uli Cain. In fact there have been selected some wonderful titles on here. I will try to compile a list with all the chosen films that should make it easier for those who want to check out some underappreciated masterpieces.

Uli³Cai​n

almost 2 years ago

I bumped the second thread dealing with this as well

apursan​sar

almost 2 years ago

Thanks, I will add links to both threads, so hopefully these won’t get buried again for a couple of months.

scorpio​rising

almost 2 years ago

Haha, yes, I feel so embarrassed that I wasn’t able to continue this one, being the manager and all.

The counting of the votes soon became tedious, since there were all in all 800 or more films, and that among other reasons.

I think if we want to continue this, we’ll have to redo the whole thing. Maybe we could limit the selections to 300 or 400. 10 for each user, since I don’t think a lot would be interested in the project. That way, it would be a whole lot easier to count votes. And we might have to reduce the films also to films that people can actually gain access to (with subtitles), not just films that one might have seen in a film festival.

Uli³Cai​n

almost 2 years ago

I think following the Directors’ Cup, many people could have a wider view of films and we could have a strong base on which to build.

I’m guessing that maybe Kobayashi would get some more consideration than 6/7 months ago.

Anonymouse

almost 2 years ago

I think this is a great idea, but there are two problems:

1. Who will have the pharaonic (yes, that’s a word) task of compiling all this info? Please, don’t say me ;)
2. Why can’t we include movies from iMDB top 250? Most of the best films are on there someplace. I understand that we should try to promote great lesser known movies, but that’s what Directors Cup is for, isn’t it?

apursan​sar

almost 2 years ago

1. You (or someone else).
2. Well, this is basically intended as an alternative source for people to find out about lesser known greats, and it wouldn’t make sense to have titles repeated that can easily get looked up on IMDb’s Top 250 list.

Patapon

-moderator-
almost 2 years ago

Apursansar, Im wondering what percentage of these lists are of lesser known films that are great and what percentage are of just lesser known films :/ these lists are useless to me unless I have a trusted relationship with the person suggesting them…should I watch Lonesome (Pál Fejös, 1928, U.S.) just because Wilberto said so?

I wonder if there is a better way to do this than just compiling information into list form

Patapon

-moderator-
almost 2 years ago

Apursansar, Im wondering what percentage of these lists are of lesser known films that are great and what percentage are of just lesser known films :/ these lists are useless to me unless I have a trusted relationship with the person suggesting them…should I watch Lonesome (Pál Fejös, 1928, U.S.) just because Wilberto said so?

I wonder if there is a better way to do this than just compiling information into list form

apursan​sar

almost 2 years ago

I think that one should definitely read up on the selected titles in order to confirm if these are either just personal favorites of other members or neglected masterpieces of world cinema. I think it’s a good first step to let people mention those titles they think deserve more attention, and we will have to consider how to further proceed with all that information. As for now I’m listing the selected titles here.

Patapon

-moderator-
almost 2 years ago

That makes sense Apursansar. I guess I could name a few films here. soon ill post a list (cant think of 20 though is that ok?)

apursan​sar

almost 2 years ago

Yes, I think there are some members who only selected ten films. Just choose as many as you like, and I will add your titles to the main list. After the DC is over, Scorpio is likely going to start another canon search.

Walbert​o

almost 2 years ago

Maybe we could write brief explanations on why we chose the films we selected especially if we only select 10, I don’t think it would be to difficult.

“…should I watch Lonesome (Pál Fejös, 1928, U.S.) just because Wilberto said so?”

Sekzee my man, of course.

apursan​sar

almost 2 years ago

That’s a good idea. I will need at least one more day to finish the entire list of selected titles, and after that we could start a new thread on which people can post those explanations, which should make it easier for others to sort out the titles that interest them most and add them to their watching list.

Angel

almost 2 years ago

Take it easy. The Doubling the Canon project took 4 years and 3 updates to get the current list. A lot of work!