Hey, it’s just strategy. I’ve seen very few films in the top 20, but there are movies that I want to get ahead and voting against films that are lower on the list (even if I don’t like them very much) isn’t going to accomplish that.
That’s so hipster.
The Cloud Capped Star + 2
Boogie Nights -1
The Matrix -1
Don’t feel too bad, the voting game has screwed me over too. Vertigo was #1 when this all began.
I’m pretty sure that people voting down a movie in something in which you’re supposed to vote down movies doesn’t constitute you getting screwed over.
Well, Lucas, that all depends on who you ask
Okay, maybe not screwed over, but my favorite movie of all time (and one of the most highly regarded) got voted down in favor of an obscure Filipino movie. I find that a bit ridiculous.
Eden and After +2
The Night of the Hunter -1
Tree of Life -1
Aside from Three Godless Years and The Hour of the Furnaces (which both seem quite interesting), the rest of the Top 20 consists of very highly regarded and excellent films (well, some of them are debatable….). So I think what is ridiculous is that you aren’t considering taking a look at what others have voted into the top spots, instead of clinging to your precious Hitchcock. Don’t get me wrong, I love Hitchcock. He is the director that got me serious about film, and Vertigo is one of his best. But it doesn’t end with him, there is much more to explore.
Pastoral: To Die in the Country +2
The Godfather -1
Pulp Fiction -1
“my favorite movie of all time (and one of the most highly regarded) got voted down in favor of an obscure Filipino movie. I find that a bit ridiculous.”
Now I get it. The greatest threat to cinema isn’t piracy, it’s obscurity. A ridiculous trend it is.
It doesn’t take much grounding in world cinema to know of Hour of the Furnaces, it’s a seminal Latin American film that may not appeal much to narrow-minded rightwing capitalists and imperialists. Just have an open mind and if you don’t fancy watching Hour of the Furnaces, try others that are admired by people here. A film’s level of “obscurity” is NOT a reliable indication of its worth. This thread has left me feeling dispirited, worn and stuck in a slough of despond. Well, i hope the peacock and ducks will cheer me up in the morning.
Well, Kenji, that’s the tough thing about this game, while fun, and the 1,000+ films on the original list is an impressive haul, and alone worth DiB’s effort to compile, we’re now in the stages to attack to a degree the personal tastes of others. I think it has come up before that film making (art) shouldn’t be a competition, but that is what we have here, and in any competition, there are strategies.
Maybe after this we can have a Villains game and a Heroes game, I want to be a Villain (and Dim, like it or not, you’re a Villain too.Cecil is a Hero (he seems like a pretty pure guy).
+2 – Zodiac
-1 – Birdemic: Shock and Terror
-1 – Withnail and I
This vote goes out to Dennis Brian. He rightfully suggested that we should be gunning for schlock like Birdemic: Shock and Terror instead of movies that are actually good. Dennis says that Birdemic is a sincere movie. I agree. I’ve seen it with the director in person to take Q&A. He’s a good-hearted, honest guy (I think), but the sincerity of the director (and everyone else involved) doesn’t cover up the fact that the movie throughly incompetent in every way. It’s the type of movie you put on when your drunk so that you can laugh at it; not the type of movie that belongs on a list like this.
Tell me more about this Heroes & Villains game Uli – I like the sound of it :)
I don’t think anyone of us (well, I can just speak for the regulars) would mind an attack of own’s personal taste as long as it’s done in a thoughtful way providing good arguments. But attacking films one has neither heard of nor seen is as absurd as this game can possibly get.
i think perhaps mischa had a point tho, the game was meant for regular forum users. the top film has reached its position by means of recruiting people via facebook, i’d almost bet on it. i think this is gaming the game but if polaris chooses to allow, so be it
…as long as it’s done in a thoughtful way providing good arguments.
Yeah, see, that’s the catch with this game. It’s not really about thoughtfulness and detailed argumentation. It’s about voting – an inherently political process. It is about promoting your taste in movies. There’s nothing wrong with that at all – that’s exactly what I do with every vote that I cast – but I think we need to take this game with a grain of salt, please.
thanks Nathan
anyone else wanna play sacrifical lamb, may I suggest the folks who voted Eyes and Inglorious in here
@ ANPURSANAR and others
No, it isn’t absurd. People want to see their favorite movies higher on the list because that gives their favorite movies more exposure (you know, like the exposure that the movies at the top of the list right now are getting). In order to help one’s favorite movies get higher on the list the movies at the top of the list need to get voted down. It doesn’t matter whether or not one has seen the movies that are higher on the list, what matters is that its at the top and that it needs to come down in order for your own movies that are lower on the list to go higher. It’s a simple voting strategy. Hello?!
I’ve surrendered Apocalypse Now to the Filipinos, I just request to cast the vote that knocks it out, it won’t hurt as much coming from me.
“Hey, it’s just strategy. I’ve seen very few films in the top 20, but there are movies that I want to get ahead and voting against films that are lower on the list (even if I don’t like them very much) isn’t going to accomplish that.”
^That’s a wake up call for you to WATCH those films rather than getting anxious about putting your film in their place.
Something is fundamentally wrong with you guys or maybe you are in the wrong place.
All right, I think I quit my participation in the poll then, I’m more interested in arts than politics and what’s happening on here seems like a waste of time to me.
you got one side pushing discovery, sometimes at the sake of quality and you got the other pushing the familar, sometimes at the sake of quality
two sides of the same coin really.
To put another way, the Fincher fans got their feelings hurt by the lets hurry and vote off Fincher in favor of Yugoslavian films group who got their feelings hurt by the let’s vote off Yugoslavian film in favor of Fincher group.
^deciding the quality of a film without watching it is what is being discussed.
Dennis, FTW.
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@ ROHIT
What makes you think that those of us voting against the films that are high on the list that we haven’t seen don’t want to eventually see those films? I’d like to see a lot of the more obscure movies that are high on the list that I haven’t seen. But it’s not possible to see every single movie that’s higher on the list (than my favorite movies that I want to promote) just so I can say that I’ve seen them before I can vote them down in order to help promote my favorite movies. It’s just not possible.
@Westley
Well…here is where you must see the bigger picture. Aren’t we here to discover more films? I am not saying you don’t vote for your favorite film but at least don’t vote down a film that you haven’t seen. That way you will be supporting your film at the same time not doing something that isn’t morally right, its immature and is outright insensitive. Watch it NOW if you want to pull down that film else watch it anytime you want.
just like the Dc someone should make the lesser known films available for everyone
if we are not part of the solution we are part of the problem
Walberto
O Megalexandros +2
Once upon a Time in America-1
Terminator 2: Judgment Day-1