Well, you know, it’s at that point that the revolution should ignite. But it’s best, I suppose, to just be back home.
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Eh…Bob, I love the “Wizard of Oz” dearly, but start the revolution without me…
Hey PoopButt……
@Nick – it was meant as a joke
Yes?…Apparently I can’t use the word stupid on here without getting moderated….
Yeah, but I get to call you poopbutt- get the irony of that?
Seriously what was universal theme in 2001….
Peabody: What’s more universal than Man v Man, Man v Machine, Man v Nature? There are other themes but it’s easily broken down into those three.
The film attempts to answer these key questions: 1. Where did we, as humans, come from? 2. Where are we going? and 3. How are we going to get there?
You can argue that it may not answer these questions to your satisfaction, but regardless, it doesn’t get more universal than that.
The film attempts to answer these key questions: 1. Where did we, as humans, come from? 2. Where are we going? and 3. How are we going to get there?
You can argue that it may not answer these questions to your satisfaction, but regardless, it doesn’t get more universal than that.
Okay that is what I thought, not sure those are both universal – man v machine is no.
Man v Man not too sure about that as theme it might come under survival of the fittest
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Man v Man and Man v Machine are essentially the same in this film, since what Man is really fighting is his own imperfect programming of the machine that causes it to malfunction.
Okay a quest for the source or origin is universal to all cultures, I think….
@ PeaBody , 2001’s themes: man vs. man, man vs. machine, and man vs. the universe (obviously with that last one) are all universal because they are not limited to a specific person or culture or clique- they relate to EVERY person across all boundaries of the world. Like what Nick and John were saying, you really cannot find a more “Universal” film than that. PLus, 2001 literally is universal as it takes place outside of our world.
Kinda like The Wizard of Oz, no?
Who the hell is John?
he meant to say Josh
Can you imagine Poopbutt might have problems with names?
nah….
Could never have been created by an auteur because an auteur is concerned with personal style vs. anything universal or innovative
So a work of art can’t be personal and universal at the same time?
I recall being scared shitless as a child by the flying monkeys, and always wanting to see The Wizard of Oz when it would come on TV once a year.
But, I took a look at it again a few years ago, and found myself sorely disappointed with it. More than anything, I enjoyed the B&W sections in Kansas, which were – to my knowledge – directed by King Vidor, a director I love. The rest of it just struck me as silly. And, I guess that’s sort of the point at times, but I just couldn’t get into it. Maybe my inner child has died. I’ll try it again one of these days, and probably love it.
@Matt….art can’t be personal and universal at the same time….
Of course it can – a love song can be both personal and universal
Truffaut’s 400 blows has both – the universal coming of age
This thread is sort of tongue-in-cheek
Robert W Peabody III
Could never have been created by an auteur because an auteur is concerned with personal style vs. anything universal or innovative
The Wizard of Oz encapsulated the infantile universal belief that, if you are not the center of everything, there must be someone who is. Yes, the concept of self-centricity does cause revolutions and da Wiz rips the curtains right off of it and at the same time suggests it’s okay to think there are people better than you working the levers of your life….lol
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