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the rocky road to becoming a cinephile

McBean

over 2 years ago

There seems to be some weird sort of one-upmanship in film-watching circles that’s quite amusing to reflect on. It seems the more obscure and hard to find stuff trumps everything else at the end of the day. I wonder how many people have undertaken the following journey and what stage they’re at at the moment.

Person A: “I like Air America – it was cool”.
Person B: “Fuck that shit – you should watch some Tarantino. That’s cool”.

Later….

Person B: “That Tarantino, man he really knows his stuff”.
Person C: “You’re joking aren’t you? He’s so derivative. If you want to see some really good cinema you should watch foreign movies”.
Person B: (a little intrigued) “Really? Like what”?
Person C: “Like City On Fire, or Bullet In The Head, or maybe Hero”.

Later, on an internet forum…

Person C: “Yes, I thought the action sequences in Woo’s A Better Tomorrow were really impressive. Almost balletic”.
Person D: “Well, I’m not much into action flicks – they’re kinda dumb”.
Person C: “What do you mean dumb? What do you watch”?
Person D: “Me? I like Kurosawa. Ran’s the best thing I’ve seen in years. I also like Fellini, and Godard”.

Later, on theauteurs…

Person D: (feeling quite smug) “Yes, my favourites are Kurosawa, Fellini, and Godard”.
Person E: (auteurs regular) “Oh god – not the same old canon shit. Why can’t people look outside the box once in a while”?
Person D: (slightly annoyed) “What do you mean? All the polls say these guys’ films are the greatest ever made”!
Person E: (snorting derisively) “Yeah, right. Like Sight and Sound’s the only authority on films”.
Person D: “Well, who’s better”?
Person E: “Oh, loads of folk. Like Apichatpong Weerasethakul, Hou Hsiao-Hsien, Hirokazu Koreeda, Andrzej Zulawski”.
Person D: “Oh”.

Later on theauteurs…

Person E: “Apichatpong Weerasethakul has to be my absolute favourite these days”.
Person F: “Jesus. Not him again. Have you never heard of…”

Black Irish

over 2 years ago

LOL!

Ah, nothin’ like good satire. :)

Francis​co J. Torres

over 2 years ago

Sorry. I don’t get your point.

Filmy

over 2 years ago

hahahahah → haha Meter

It happened to me Rumple!

But seriously its worth getting to talk know/watch films by those obscure filmmakers, I would have remained ignorant about otherwise.

Puts me in the group of elitists, doesn’t it?

apursan​sar

over 2 years ago

Damn, I´ve already reached one of the final stages. Reading this makes me feel like a Weerasetha-fool.

Black Irish

over 2 years ago

Francisco: He’s not trying to make a point, he’s just jokin’ about how things tend to go in the film world. ;)

Robert W Peabody III

over 2 years ago

ha ha! I had to look up Hirokazu Koreeda, but I had already seen one of his movies

Black Irish

over 2 years ago

Apursansar: Does this mean that you’re reaching the end of your cinema lifespan? :(

Filmy

over 2 years ago

Apursansar, Kenji, Blue K, DuShane = Person X, Y Z or thereabouts.

Mike Spence

over 2 years ago

That is funny as shit. Well done.

McBean

over 2 years ago

Hey – I’m not knocking Apichatpong Weerasethakul or anything. I just watched Syndromes And A Century and loved it. I’m just saying.

Fredo

over 2 years ago

Hahaha – I couldn’t have said it better myself!

It’s a cycle, that’s for sure. At some point I think you get to the end and realize that each of these stages has purpose and importance and the one thing you outgrow (hopefully) is the snobby dismissiveness. The hope is that someday you can learn to appreciate both Air America and Apichatpong Weerasethakul (whoever the hell he is).

Col. Dax

over 2 years ago

Is it weird that I love Apichatpong Weerasethakul but before this had never heard of Air America? I literally thought you were talking about the media outlet… I was thinking, “What does a progressive leftist radio station have to do with Quentin Tarantino?”

Francis​co J. Torres

over 2 years ago

Is Air America the Mel Gibson movie?

Ally the Manic Listmak​er

over 2 years ago

For sure. I’ve been in each one of those situations. I try not to deride anyone’s taste and when I see other people doing it I shake my head in shame. After all, forums like this are there to help other people find new filmmakers and great films, not to put each other down… or…. well… um, in theory at least.

apursan​sar

over 2 years ago

deckard croix

over 2 years ago

Hmm. I don’t really feel the reality of the characters in your rendition, Rumplesink … where’s the personality and working class struggle of “Persons A-F”? And what of the undisclosed opinions of “Persons G-Z”? Surely, their snobbery and ignorance on the progression of John Carpenter to Scorsese to Sam Peckinpah to John Huston to Orson Welles to Cassavetes to Bergman to Greenaway to Bela Tarr to Tarkovsky to Von Trier and finally to the renouncement of all aforementioned and the embrace of Zack Snyder must disappear apparition-like into the mists of pseudo-intellectualism like one metaphor too many? Surely.

Now, back to How to Get Ahead In Advertising (god, I love Grant and Robinson).

Mike Spence

over 2 years ago

“The hope is that someday you can learn to appreciate both Air America and Apichatpong Weerasethakul”

Yes, they say toward the end of your life you revert to childhood ;)

Daniell​a

over 2 years ago

Funny, very funny! I’m still on the Person D Stage and loving it!

Black Irish

over 2 years ago

Yeah, I’ve never heard of Air America either. :D

Gringo Tex

over 2 years ago

Person E: “Apichatpong Weerasethakul has to be my absolute favourite these days”.
Person F: “Jesus. Not him again. Have you never heard of…”

Joseph H. Lewis’ Rifleman episodes. That’s how I know you’re all a bunch of poseurs. Because none of you have moved on from Weerasethakul to Joseph H. Lewis’ Rifleman episodes.

Eli Goodspe​ed

over 2 years ago

Heh! Boo!

Black Irish

over 2 years ago

We’re not worthy . . . [bows down and begins to mutter prayers for forgiveness]

Fredo

over 2 years ago

“Yes, they say toward the end of your life you revert to childhood.”

Haha – somethin’ to look forward to!

banal1

over 2 years ago

Oh god, the OPer used that phrase “at the end of the day”.

Mike Spence

over 2 years ago

At the end of the day you’re another day older…

Alex Krupl

over 2 years ago

Apichatpong Weerasethakul = JOE

emilyca​rdigan

over 2 years ago

I think that the problem of any philia—cine- or otherwise—is that it hurts to imagine someone else could possibly love it more; by surrendering to your compulsive love, you necessarily partake in a continued exercise in humiliation, and the harder the compulsion drives you, the more you get to experience both sides of that humiliation.

Also, is Air America basically Top Gun, but without Tom Cruise?

McBean

over 2 years ago

Banal1 – When all’s said and done I love the phrase ‘at the end of the day’ :o)

(farting dismissively) Please, you fart knockers. I’ve already gone on past the Roman alphabet. I’m working on the Greek alphabet with my buddy Dimitris.

And you guys are still talking about my friends “Joe” Apitchapong and Triple H. That’s yesterday’s news. As I’ve told several people at this site already, this North Korean film is the greatest ever.
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-4299325314122049461&q=movie+duration%3Along#