For the #1 spot, I think it’s between Kane, Rules of the Game and Vertigo.
Possible additions are Murnau (Sunrise?), Tarkovsky (Rublev?), Vertov (MwaMC?), Bergman (Persona?), Keaton (The General?), Wilder (Sunset Blvd.?).
From more recent times, U.S. directors seem to be the ones over which there is stronger consensus. Surprises could be Tarantino or Lynch.
HANG ON TO YOUR BUTTS
I think 2001 and Vertigo are the only films with a hope of dethroning Kane. I do hope they can pull it off, but I’m skeptical.
Yes, I forgot about 2001.
No, “2001” won’t come anywhere near it – I think it might actually drop out of the Top Ten (it’s my pick for best film of all time, by the by). “Vertigo” will do it (as I said here as soon as we started talking about the poll last year). I have a feeling that “Touch of Evil” might sneak in (crowned best blu-ray of last year – means lots of critics could have taken another look at it…maybe). Love to see “In the Mood for Love” or “Mulholland Dr.” – or even “The Tree of Life” – break in (I think one of those three just might).
Can’t wait to see the individual lists. The big list is always interesting, but usually doesn’t drastically change for long periods of time. I hope shit will get shaken up, in short.
If any film out there actually deserves the title “best film ever” it’s gotta be 2001. If we are all wiped out and aliens only dig up 1 film, I am totally comfortable with it being the space odyssey.
I can see the promo campaign: “2001 a space odyssey – Universally adored, and unlike Citizen Kane, most doesn’t ‘just respect it’ – they actually like the film.”
I just hope them shitty Clockwork Orange and Dr. Strangelove don’t get even close to making it.
2001 will always endure, that’s what matters.
Also ok with Dr. Strangelove aliens can dig that one up as well…. anything but Citizen Kane honestly, aliens will think we’re really lame =(
Maybe they should find Happiness or Schindler’s List and see what sick bastards we were.
Hell, give them Singing In the Rain. They’ll worship us.
Naked and My Neighbor Totoro if they want to see the extreme ends of the spectrum
I want change, dammit! I think Potemkin and Singin’ in the Rain will get bumped off, and it would be ultra-cool if there’s, y’know, just ONE film from the past quarter century on the Top Ten. If Vertigo does come out on top, I will shit bricks.
My day would be made by that.
I would love to see Naked or Totoro up there… Or Three Colors: Red…
My picks for past quarter century that I’d like to see included:
HappinessThe Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert FordDriveThe Tree of LifeNaked
I have my mubi money on Pulp Fiction being in there…
I want Citizen Kane to defy expectations and retain it’s crown.
@Loveroflecinema: My week would be made by that! My final predictions for the list:
If aliens discovered Citizen Kane and thought we were stupid for liking it as much as we do, I can only suspect that they’d be stupid aliens.
That’s pretty high for The Godfather Scottie… I think it might get “same fan-base factored” pretty hard being the first time it’s split from part II… but who knows maybe everyone rally behind the first one and it’ll be huge
@Nathan: Don’t get me wrong, Citizen Kane is a great film. The greatest? Hell no. And I think it would be so boring if it were to top the list again.
@Axel: I don’t think the split will hurt it too much. It would be higher, maybe even a contender for #1, if not for the split. I think there might even be enough people voting for both films to give Part II some leverage as well.
Those aliens would respect us for Citizen Kane, but they wouldn’t put on their own top 10s let’s put it that way
Very nice (I have yet to see Sunrise). Raging Bull should be up there as the ambassador for the 80s… Since they aren’t doing the “parts” thing anymore (letting both Godfathers take one slot, or the Decalogue), I would be okay with seeing either Part I or II of the Godfather in there (I just want it included, the second one is probably the best film I’ve ever seen).
I’ll make my prediction list right now…
The only film being considered that I like more than Kane is 2001, but somehow Kane strikes me as a better representative for movies. Far from a museum piece, I find it endlessly entertaining.
@Lover- I figure Scorsese is finally gonna get up there this time. Votes could be split with Taxi Driver (my personal favorite) and even Goodfellas though.
@Brad- I guess it is more “cinematic” than 2001; by that I mean when most people think of what a classic movie looks and feels like they’ll get something much closer to Kane than Kubrick’s film.
Yeah, we have to also think about Taxi Driver (my favorite of his as well). Unfortunately, I doubt Goodfellas will be up there.
Not a fan of Vertigo?
::quiet chant:: “Ver-ti-go, Ver-ti-go”….
Gimme a V!
Gimme an E!
Gimme an R!
Gimme a T!
Gimme an I!
Gimme a G!
Gimme an O!
What does that spell??
Directors’ list includes technically innovative/master films. Citizen Kane will be #1 again and 8 1/2 will be next. These films (Kane & 8 1/2) are perfection and directors admire them for technical bravura. In 2002 s&s poll 8 1/2 and The Godfather have equal votes but magazine counted Godfather 1&2 together and this was a kind of cheat. For this year i think Rules of the Game down and 2001 up;
1- Citizen Kane
2- 8 1/2
3- The Godfather
4- Raging Bull
5- The Godfather ii
7- Lawrence of Arabia
8- Seven Samurai/Rashomon
10-2001/La Dolce Vita
I would love for Pulp Fiction to make it, and it would certainly have a place in my top 10. But I don’t think there’s any chance. In general, critics don’t think too highly of Tarantino. Most people have more fun creating backlash against him.
I don’t have a problem with Vertigo knocking off Kane. But I would have thought that to happen 10 or 20 years ago, not now. I also imagine it will not be surprising to see Tati crack the top 10. Lots of chatter about him, and lots claiming him as their all-time favorite. I’ve already gone on record about Lynch. Forget Mulholland Dr.. The truth is Lost Highway, though Blue Velvet is most deserving of a high spot.