Walter Hill is Back and Stallone is Fighting With Axes,

The Trailer, no I cannot wait (tho this does like atypical of the great Mr Hill)

Funny this trailer came out the same day the similarly titled Alan Spencer tv series “Bullet in the Face” premiered

I would rather have it to the head, in the face sounds more painful (being that you may very well live thru it).

Alan Spencer I wish would bring back Sledge Hammer

It’s an adaptation of this:

Not sure what to do with this one. Love Hill, have zero interest in ever seeing another Stallone movie. The early part of the trailer vaguely resembles Eastern Promises.

looks pretty bad to me. wouldnt be surprised if it went straight to dvd.

without an all star cast, Stallone can only draw crowds with franchise pics im guessing.

the last Hill i liked was Trespass but he hasnt made a film in 10 years so it isnt like i have much to go on.

It is out in Feb.

It will go wide and make a bit of money (55mil probably triple in other markets)

Expendables 2 will open at about that amount.

After that comes The Tomb with him and Arnold, too early to know how that will do

The new Arnold looks better than this one tho (I doubt it will make as much)

Looks pretty typical of Walter Hill actually. The Warriors/Streets of Fire + 48 Hours/Red Heat and a dash of Extreme Prejudice for good measure. My interest actually went up with that trailer. It looks a helluva lot better than The Last Stand and The Expendables II. Stallone actually seems to be…trying to act. I might actually see it.

At first I thought it was a remake of Bullet in the head, as opposed to the head. Those bullets are confusing me with their directions.

I like Walter Hill, but not sure if I’d see it in the theater. Stallone looks like he’s shrinking, height-wise. It looks like this film was wrapped back a year ago. It seems to have a decent supporting cast, except for Christian Slater. I wish him all the best, but he needs to hang it up.

Speaking of all the best, I hope you are doing well, Dennis.

yes Pierre

Stage One, surgery soon

be well in no time

hell, you are joking right? slys line readings are atrocious! haha. and the film doesnt even look cinematic.

agree with Pierre that it looks a few years old. hell it feels a decade old already.

Arnold’s looks really good tho.

I still want to see them both

anyone think the success of the second expendables will led to another Norris theater picture?

also, anyone think if it hits Stallone will be yeses from Ford and Eastwood about Part 3 (he already has Cage and Snipes, if not in jail on board).

has cage agreed?!?!?!

doubt norris will ever have his own vehicle again. heh

as for Slater, he is just the kiss of death. drugs and alcohol ruined him. he was great in True Romance

slys line readings are atrocious! haha.

As compared to Arnold? Stallone seems to be underplaying the role as comedy and given the tone of the trailer it looks like the right approach. Hard to tell without actually seeing the film but he doesn’t appear to be reading from cue cards at least.

and the film doesnt even look cinematic.

How so? Low budget? Sure. Small scale? Definitely. Handhelf photography? Apparently. Not cinematic? Again, hard to sell without seeing the film but what about it comes across as not cinematic? There are a couple of interesting and very comic-booky shots in there. Can’t tell how it will all come together until the damn thing is actually released.

we’ll see.

it isnt the budget that is the problem. Hill rarely worked with large budgets. his best movies were done cheap.

“the last Hill i liked was Trespass but he hasnt made a film in 10 years so it isnt like i have much to go on.”

The last one of his proper films I really got into was Last Man Standing, though his work on “Deadwood” and the made-for-TV “Broken Trail” were better than average TV (I still haven’t see Undisputed). The last thing I liked that Stallone had anything to do with was Cop Land.

wow disagree Matt, Stallone, over the last seven or so years, is probably the most reliable film star working.

“wow disagree Matt, Stallone, over the last seven or so years, is probably the most reliable film star working.”

Wow, I would have to say Bruce Willis.
Aside for Die Hard 3 and Hudson Hawk I think he has made few missteps.

His choice of small movies is interesting, too.

MATT: Last Man Standing had a few good Woo inspired action sequences, but on the whole i remember not liking it much and being extremely disappointed. Maybe i should give it another look, but at that point i was beginning to question whether Hill still had it.

Bullet in The Head just looks like a generic action film to me. Hill films had a semi-distinctive style once upon a time. and they were a lot more interesting.

I’m not crying about it though as my interest in him waned a long time ago and he was never a brilliant director anyway, just got lucky a few times. He is like Friedkin in that regard. He made 2-3 really good movies that people love and a lot of average forgettable ones.

Hill has way more great films than Friedkin

all in his first decade

Hard Times (what a debut)
The Driver (much better than Drive)
Warriors
Streets of Fire
48 Hours

then

Johnny Handsome (rewatch if you dont believe me) and Wild Bill

Friedkin may be a complete asshole but he is in a totally different league from Walter Hill and I love Walter Hill.

The French Connection
The Exorcist
Sorcerer
To Live and Die in LA
Bug
The Birthday Party
Blue Chips
The Boys in the Band
Cruising

Not all of them are great (or even good films necessarily) but he was/is a special director and even his worst films reveal that.

He is ‘special’ all right, i’ll give you that ;-)

Not big on The Driver Den but i like all those other films you mentioned. I just didn’t buy O’Neil in the role. Bogdanovich is the only director that has used O’Neil well imo. Not even Kubrick could get a decent performance out of him.

i also dig Another 48 Hours.

I thought Mailer did cool things with O Neal in Tough Guys Don’t Dance

out of that list of William F, I just love Bug and Cruising

I do seek out his films, just don’t really love them like I do some of Hill’s

but what do I know I would take Michael Winner and J Lee Thompson over both of em

“Last Man Standing had a few good Woo inspired action sequences, but on the whole i remember not liking it much and being extremely disappointed. Maybe i should give it another look, but at that point i was beginning to question whether Hill still had it.”

It doesn’t really do much other than move Yojimbo/Fistful of Dollars into a different era, but I think it’s pretty solid genre work.

@ Den

Yeah, to me that stretch from Hard Times to 48 Hours was one of the better runs by an American genre director during that period.

I’ve always found O’neal to be bland as oatmeal.

But now every time I see him I think
“That’s the guy who admitted not recognizing his own daughter at a party and trying to hit on her”.
Later, Tatum said well “That’s par for the course with him”.

O’Neal is a uniquely inexpressive actor, but I think on occasion that quality has been used well.

Like certain movies with Keanu.

Or casting Tom Cruise as a sociopath.
Only way I can stand him.

I think at this point real emotion is beyond him.

^^Linden, i guess that’s why he didn’t have much of a career eh? He was a heart throb in the early 70’s that made a couple of really good films with directors like Bogdanovich, Kubrick and Hill(if you like The Driver), took a few chances, but he was never going to go the distance.

His pretty boy looks worked against him in The Driver for me. I didn’t buy him as a hard ass for one split second. and that just killed the effect.

It doesn’t really do much other than move Yojimbo/Fistful of Dollars.

Or move Dashiel Hammet’s “Red Harvest” back from Japan and “Mexico” (and from Appalachia) to the American West, set at the time that the book was written.

That’s one reason I like it.
Also the dust.

@Joks: there are plenty of wooden actors that strike me as having the consistency and flavor of oatmeal that have great careers. Like Costner.

I always thought Costner (though he can be bland) capable of great spontaneity. He is really good in comedies.

Ford is usually pretty wooden, but what the hell I like him too.

I did not realize that the Last Stand, the Arold film was done by Jee-woon Kim. it doesn’t necessarily make me want to see it, but it’s interesting to note that these directors have to go through a rite of passage with their first American feature.