What is Art?
You didn’t. Please say you didn’t really ask this question.
dude is trolling. he learns fast
Of course, right as I’m about to leave work. :)
art = short for artifice :) (joking, plz don’t attack)
He’s trolling.
I once had the following epiphany -
art is basically….showing the public a glimpse of your own imagination/mind.
wtf is art though?
why did it start in the first place? there is obviously a need for it or else art wouldn’t exist.
like did some random dude just like go paint on a rock back in the stone ages…that’s first art?
Who cares? You make something. You show it. You live. You die.
LOL
Seriously. I can’t believe The Dude is serious here. That question is a joke.
art/ärt/
Noun:
1. The expression or application of human creative skill and imagination, typically in a visual form such as painting or sculpture,…: “the art of the Renaissance”
2. Works produced by such skill and imagination.
I think that ends the discussion.
Dude, did you hit your head??
He done knocked hisself stupid
He is looking for a cocky answer ala Melville in Breathless, not the exact meaning of art. I can’t believe people waste this good chance of ‘look like a boss’ with a pretentious answer.
Give us the cocky answer, Alex.
In May 2006, Salman Rushdie was guest host on The Charlie Rose Show. He asked Deepa Mehta what she thought art was.
They both agreed art is humanistic.
@Odi
Seriously. I can’t believe The Dude is serious here. That question is a joke.
Really, Odi? Well, I must confess that this is the type of question that interests me (which probably doesn’t surprise you), so I don’t think the question is a bad one. I understand the suspicion that Dude is trolling, but I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt. Besides, we can always turn this into a meaningful conversation, as we have done in the past.
R&B said,
1. The expression or application of human creative skill and imagination, typically in a visual form such as painting or sculpture,…: “the art of the Renaissance”
2. Works produced by such skill and imagination.
I’m not real comfortable with this. If I make a business presentation, using “creative skill and imagination,” is it art? It could be, but it certainly seems different. If I develop an innovative basketball offense, that would also fit the definition, but no us would consider the offense, art. (And we would be right, right?)
To me, what’s missing is the notion that art of expressing an idea or feeling and that expression is an end in and of itself. In other words, the expression of the idea and feeling isn’t a means to a different end such as, militaristic, commercial, political, etc. Am I missing anything?
and here we go down the rabbit hole
^ LOL
Fasten your seatbelts…..
Art is over and it never existed. Shut the fuck up.
According to Tolstoy, 99% of it is pure decadence. Can’t say I disagree. Tolstoy would love Luhrmann’s Gatsby.
if someone says that something is art, then it is art. if you go any further than that you become PRETENTIOUS
@Alexandra
But what about my example of the business presentation or the basketball offense? Would you have a problem if I called those things art?
nope
If I point to a sunset and said, “That’s art,” is it?
Is there no line separating art and non-art?
At some point, I think the word is going to lose meaning.
LOL — Alex you used the most awful word you could use on Mubi, the P word (and I don’t mean Ben’s favorite P word)!
(I love to throw that word out too, actually, because damn, sometimes there’s no better word — not talking about Ben’s word)…
No, we’re more than capable of having a civilized discussion about the meaning and recognition of art if a) we don’t assume that all new users have been through the same circuitous discussions we’ve had (even though the newcomers are one part of the cause of the circuity of the discussion) and b) we don’t assume all new users posting these sorts of circuitous debates are trolling.
—PolarisDiB
i think that just any random sunset you would not call art, but if an artist wants to frame it as a work of art somehow then it can be.
Film as entertainment vs film as art
Why has it become ‘fashionable’ to hate Tarantino?
Can pornography also be film art?
^One page of searching ‘art definition’ on the Mubi forums.
—PolarisDiB
As far as we can discern, the sole purpose of human existence is to kindle a light in the darkness of mere being.
As a human being the artist may have many moods and a will and personal aims, but as an artist he is ‘man’ in a higher sense -he is ‘collective man’ – one who carries and shapes the unconscious, psychic life of mankind.
- Jung (two separate quotes)
@Alexandra
i think that just any random sunset you would not call art,…
But why not? Are you saying the intention—just saying something is art—is what separates non-art from art? I think there is something more to it than that. Even if an artist declares that something is art, they have an idea of what art is and what it isn’t.
And if a non-artist said something was art, would that also be art?
@DiB
But I don’t think any of those discussions attempt to discuss art in general.
No, we’re more than capable of having a civilized discussion about the meaning and recognition of art if a) we don’t assume that all new users have been through the same circuitous discussions we’ve had (even though the newcomers are one part of the cause of the circuity of the discussion) and b) we don’t assume all new users posting these sorts of circuitous debates are trolling.
Yeah. If the thread starter was trolling, that doesn’t have to stop those who want to have a good discussion, too.
No-Limb Joe
What is art?