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What's the best introduction to Herzog?

Christi​an Depken

over 1 year ago

Been meaning to see something by Herzog for a while, but his body of work is frankly daunting. Any suggestions for an intro?

brady qw

over 1 year ago

I just asked this question to a person on this site;

“There’s no harm in starting with the best: Fitzcarraldo. Make sure that your first 3-5 Herzog films give you a sense of his variety. Fit in a Kinski, a Bruno S., a doc, etc.”

555-

over 1 year ago

Les Blank’s Werner Herzog Eats His Shoe is a great introduction into Herzog the man.

Adam Cook

-moderator-
over 1 year ago

That’s yours truly that Brady is quoting there. Yeah, I think Fitzcarraldo is a solid way to start, and while I consider it his best, he has many, many great films (a startling 11 masterpieces by my count). To provide a more in-depth answer, following my guideline of exposing yourself to his variety, here is an ideal first 5:
Fitzcarraldo
The Enigma of Kaspar Hauser
Grizzly Man
Lessons of Darkness
The Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call New Orleans

This way you get a taste of the 70s, 80s, 90s, 2000s and current work while also seeing a film starring Kinski, Bruno S., a documentary, and the more experimental side of the man’s work. For further reference, here is a list I made which ranks his films (you really can’t go wrong with #34 and better).

I also echo RhodaPenmark’s recommendation while also putting forth the suggestion of watching Les Blank’s Burden of Dreams, which documents some of the behind-the-scenes happenings of Fitzcarraldo.

Christi​an Depken

over 1 year ago

I’ve heard mixed things about Bad Lieutenant, but I have a soft spot for Nicolas Cage, so I’ll give it the benefit of the doubt.

Putting Fitzcarraldo at the top of my Netflix queue, under The Holy Mountain. Thanks!

Also…any reason why there’s no Herzog on Criterion? I was kinda surprised at that.

brady qw

over 1 year ago

Difficult to acquire, just like Lynch.

555-

over 1 year ago

Stroszek is great. I don’t think Fitzcarroldo is all that good, it’s overhyped because of the backstory behind the production.

Sanjuro

over 1 year ago

There was Burden of Dreams which is kind of ‘Herzog on Criterion’. Out of print probably…

Jirin

over 1 year ago

I’m surprised no mentions of Aguirre yet. I need to see Stroszek and Fitzcarraldo, of course.

ralch

over 1 year ago

Aguirre, the Wrath of God, based on my experience.

Herzog’s whole ecstatic truth search struck me clean and clear to me when I saw it very young… before reading any explanations of his cinema. Precisely because it’s the obvious example (and a very comprehensive one, regarding Herzog’s work and style), I would go for it.

Second choice: La Souffriere.

House of Leaves

-moderator-
over 1 year ago

I would trust Adam Cook with this one. He’s seen everything Herzog’s made and has done a fantastic job of managing him in this year’s Director’s Cup.

And Fitzcarraldo is still my favorite, too ;)

Adam Cook

-moderator-
over 1 year ago

Thanks, House. Although, I cannot take credit for seeing all of his films… Game in the Sand, an early short, doesn’t seem to be available anywhere and The Transformation of the World Into Music is only available on DVD w/ english subs in Australia (I have a rip of it on my hard drive w/o subs, mocking me everyday…).

Oh, and Aguirre is a great starter also.

House of Leaves

-moderator-
over 1 year ago

Oh. Then I take it all back. This man knows nothing.

Adam Cook

-moderator-
over 1 year ago

:P

Sanjuro

over 1 year ago

I don’ t think anybody’s seen Game in the Sand besides Herzog, two children and a disturbed chicken…

Adam Cook

-moderator-
over 1 year ago

Sanjuro, I think you could be right. That being said, it doesn’t make it any easier for me to deal with not having seen it…

House of Leaves

-moderator-
over 1 year ago

I remember that chicken…

Ben Simingt​on

over 1 year ago

AGUIRRE
STEINER
BELLS FROM THE DEEP
LESSONS OF DARKNESS
BAD LIEUTENANT

Matt Parks

over 1 year ago

Aguirre, The Wrath of God
Stroszek
The White Diamond

SCUBADO​NC

over 1 year ago

I agree with everyone who says Aguirre (which I feel is his best). The documentaries are kind of uneven. Herzog is like a cold lake. It is just best to throw yourself in.

HAL 9000

over 1 year ago

Try Aguirre first. To me, that is his best one. Among other things, it influenced Apocalypse Now.

brian evans

over 1 year ago

i started with Aguirre, and it’s not near a favorite for me. i think he shines with his documentaries, as he provides an atmosphere he cannot seem to recreate in his feature films – with this, i imagine ‘Lessons of Darkness’ or ‘Close Encounters at the End of the World’ being outstanding starting points; However, Fitzcarraldo is my favorite of his – it’s an inspiring, touching piece of work. Stroszek is great, short, and simple. it gives a proper intro to his weird side.

ultimately, if you like off-kilter directors who are immediately inspired by works of Herzog (a la David Lynch or Harmony Korine), you can assume to like most of Herzog’s work as a whole.

Kyle Lewis

over 1 year ago

I started with Stroszek. I think Herzog never found a more compelling subject than Bruno S.