@ St. Izzy: “He has a real talent for picking awful scripts that result in horrible movies that make a lot of money. A business savvy sellout.”
Actually, I don’t think all his movies make money. I don’t have the time to research this on imdb.com, but based on how short a time many of them play on initial release my guess is that many are box-office failures — mainly because of the scripts, as you say.
I completely agree. There is no way he could be a sell out if none of his movies make money, simply because people simple don’t like him. I think people have the most ridiculous reasons for disliking one of his movies. They don’t like the haircut, or the cut away, or the look of his shirt. Completely pointless details that have nothing to do with his performances.
Now does that mean I enjoy him in movies like NEXT, or GHOST RIDER? No, hell no. But I recognize that many actors are in it for the money. So who cares if he tries to do the same. The matter of the fact, is that when he tries to pick scripts that he thinks might be blockbusters, they usually are not.
However films that some times come through like this years Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call New Orleans or Knowing it is usually because of the director, not the choice.
Nic Cage is the man, he’s gives his heart and soul in everything he’s been in. His masterpiece is his performance in Vampire’s Kiss.
Nope I quite like him. He’s absolutely fearless as an actor. Get him working with the right directors and the results and his true potential is released. Did anyone see his performance in Bad Lieutenant? Outstanding stuff.
I like nicholas cage but he has had extreem bad luck with his movie choices. he’s ahead of burt reynolds on the I cant be stopped but I’ll continue making bad movies anyway terminator actor list. Cage can act and has genuinly good films (the rock was great and my favorite actualy is the main stream face off). I also didnt mind national treasure. Granted he’s had his stinkers but every hollywood mainstream star has from arnold to stallone to you name it. I’ll watch a nicholas cage movie before I’ll watch a micheal bay or christian bale movie any day (yes im embarrased i like the rock wich is a bay movie). vampires kiss is also great. he makes his choices based on what he likes at the time instead of what can make him 200 million for his next movie, you have to respect that kind of integrity, unlike most stars 20 year olds love today who are making career making choices.
national treasure for anyone who groans is a disney family movie, it did what it was designed to do. granted not cages finest work, but an ok disney outing.ghost rider, wickerman, next, knowing yes are all examples of nic’s movies sucking, but maybe thats not nic’s fault and bad luck and poor directing. also con air wasnt a bad action flick either. part of the problem when we have commenters about peoples movies, we often have genre haters make remakes who cant make legitimate movie choices or critiques because thier biased. this is why horror,action and scifi movies dont generaly make it amongst critics.
ever notice its usualy boring period pieces that win 10 academy awards? nuff said.
and usualy his films dont make alot of money at all, he does mainstream movies and then does his quirky vampire’s kiss movies. an example is birdy if i remember. one of the reason’s he’s in the news for being badly in debt.
- A business savvy sellout-
A broke sellout
I rather dislike Nick Cage… Never been to sure why either.
He’s just a bizarre guy and it’s difficult to hate Cage. You should compare and contrast his outrageous performance in Face/Off with the one in Bad Lieutenant.
I figured this thread would have only been revived as tribute to his new hairstyle. Why make fun of his old bird’s nest, Jardun, when you can make fun of new long blonde mullet?
He provides a ridiculous amount of material for the guys on SNL… how can you dislike him?
@John Fiscle: In correcting spelling on this site, I usually write to the individual one-on-one, especially if the person thinks that “alot” is one word. (It’s two separate words: a lot) But this error has become a national obsession and I figure I can reach more people this way than one at a time.
I know all the rationales and excuses: it’s just the Internet so one doesn’t have to spell correctly (or write in proper sentences); I like to be creative with my spelling; that’s how my 3rd-grade teacher spelled it; I’ve got a good job that doesn’t require good spelling; Tomasulo, you’re not my teacher; Tomasulo, you’re a rude arrogant asshole, etc. etc.
BUT if this works, you will NEVER spell that word incorrectly again — and neither will any of the other folks reading this. I’m an educator. What can I say?
I will never misspell a lot, at least here,,,,
Not enough attention is alloted to grammer and usage on this forum.
**The caveat is that we might be accused of being churlish. Some woman here once got all in a huff because someone began a sentence using “but”. We can agree that kind of grammar-Nazi should be banned. Most of the palaver on these threads is written on the fly, so one allows for certain lapses, but I do notice that the individual posts I actually read through completely have one thing in common- they seem to have been constructed by people who possess a rudimentary knowledge of grammar. These people probably also read.
Then there are some here who have quite an idiosyncratic way of expressing themselves (a couple I’m pretty sure might be dyslexic), but they’re also rather intelligent, so I’m willing to roll with that.
Anyway, Nic Cage. There are far too many actors who obviously don’t know how to make a character-based choice, or even know what an action is. They probably don’t know how to work on a scene or break down a part; this is basic. They do, however, spend hours in the gym. Cage knows how to do character work. He, unlike many, actually understands and practices acting as a craft. Quarrel about the results, he’s doing it.
I really dislike him….yeah…I do.
Mr. Cage goes through transitions quite a bit…hot then cold/big budget then indie…I personally haven’t liked him in the lat decade at least BUT with that said he’s had an overall good half a year so far. LOVED him in BL: PoNO and I heard he’s dynamic in KICK ASS and steals some scenes away from the kiddies. But yeah, overall he’s hard to take most of the time.
He was good in Herzog’s Bad Lieutenant.
He was entertaining. I liked Ferrara’s BL better, but, what is that? They were two different films.
The original was edgy; the “other,” Herzog’s, was damn near silly. And, NC was bizarre and silly.
God, I fucking hate Cage..
I’m so irritated with him. yeah he got some pretty decent movies but the rest of them are just crap crap crap.
Wicker Man = Nic Cage’s best acting ever.
Ari, you gotta watch Vampire’s Kiss, trust me on that ;)
I haven’t seen Vampire’s Kiss since the early 1990s. I remember the performance being campy and bizarre fun but that was before I got largely sick of Nic’s overacting and quirky mannerisms. Does the performance hold up?
More fodder for Nic Cage ridicule:
“Nicolas Cage has bought a 9-foot-tall pyramid in New Orleans to use as a tomb. For when he’s dead.”
having gotten used to the Cage gimmicks and over-actings myself, i guarantee that this movie is a treat to behold for any Nic Cage hater like i am, even after all these years of his mass popularity!
Regarding Nicolas Cage (and there’s at least one additional thread lambasting his acting “skills”): I think that poor choices of roles is only part of the problem.
Certain roles would have been played MUCH better with a different actor or a slightly more toned-down performance by Cage himself. I’m referring to his over-the-top acting in:
THE COTTON CLUB
WILD AT HEART
LEAVING LAS VEGAS
One might argue that some (or all) of the above roles call for over-the-top, gimmicky, campy acting. I might even agree on some but Cage goes WAY out there. (I don’t know why the sound mixers don’t just p[od down his dialogue a notch.)
As an example to exemplify my case, his dual role in ADAPTATION gets a mixed review from me. As the dour, downbeat CHARLIE Kaufman, he is spot on; as the wild and crazy Donald, he overdoes it (“Push, push, in the bush, bush” with gyrating hips) until he peacefully (and thankfully) dies off. I realize that a contrast needed to be set up between the two twin brothers but a more subtle difference between the two would’ve been more effective in my humble opinion.
One of his best roles is in 8MM, and that may be because he didn’t have to talk all that much
Cage is pitch perfect in Vampire’s Kiss, I can’t imagine the film being as good with anyone else in the role.
The best of Vampire’s kiss is Maria Conchita Alonso……hahahahah……and yes …I think calling her for the missing form…it has been his best act.