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Why close a Troll thread?

Judicia​l Joe

10 months ago

I’m never leaving MUBI. I may be merely a lurker on the forums, but almost all my Facebook cinephile friends are on here, and I keep all my ratings and film logs on here. Risselada and House of Leaves, go on with your bad selves. I’ve been moderated by you guys before and will probably in the future, and you’re very fair with how you run the board.

chad bentley

10 months ago

@Peabody – Good question. I wouldn’t know. But they do for some reason. And by arguing with them, getting frustrated, and finally closing them down is exactly what they want.

Rissela​da

-moderator-
10 months ago

House, thank you for the very kind words. If I come off as even-handed it’s probably partially because I assume anyone who has an interest in posting here is probably someone interested in a broad range of thoughtful films and is themselves probably a pretty thoughtful person whose participation we can all welcome and enjoy and benefit from.

Man, Riss, that’s a HUGE assumption ;^p

House of Leaves

-moderator-
10 months ago

Also, I’ve been moderated 13 times. All but one was me moderating myself—the other was by Efe himself (I made a sexual joke about the name Mubi before it was revealed what it was [anyone remember that reveal?]).

I’ve been moderated like 20/25 times are something and the bulk of those was in one two hour period battling a true troll, and that’s in close to 7000 comments, so I ain’t worried about moderation in moderation

Robert W Peabody III

10 months ago

… arguing with them, getting frustrated, and finally closing them down is exactly what they want.

heh

Peabody, am I a troll?

Jirin

10 months ago

I balk whenever people accuse an Internet forum of censorship. An Internet forum is a private club, ‘censorship’ to me implies legal restrictions. If somebody is ruining the forum for everyone else, you kick them out, just the same as if you threw a party you’d kick out a guy who had ten beers and started insulting people and knocking over tables. That’s not censorship, it’s enforcement of community standards.

Like, who wants to go to a movie site and be constantly told you’re greedy and privileged based on the country you were born in? Personal and nationalistic attacks make the forum a generally unpleasant place to be.

Scampi

10 months ago

^This.

Linden_​Watters​on

10 months ago

I agree as well.

I’ve seen it said in other threads in which discussion of the role of the moderator has taken place, and seen it pointed out more than once that closing down a thread is an administrator’s job. Not a moderator’s.

Sorta like on a talk show… security sits slightly off stage but the moderator sits at the table with everyone else.
Risselada said that things might be moderated more…

So my question is… did people just leave under “threat” of a severe talking to?

House of Leaves

-moderator-
10 months ago

What Jirin said. All day long.

When people first sign up, they should have to answer three questions before they can truly get on to the site

Rissela​da

-moderator-
10 months ago

Ok, I’ll bite. What should those three questions be?

ever changing but…

What is your favorite film?
Who is your favorite film maker?
What is the air-speed velocity of an unladen swallow?

House of Leaves

-moderator-
10 months ago

African swallow or European?

Linden_​Watters​on

10 months ago

Is it an adult?

a young European

House of Leaves

-moderator-
10 months ago

Is there an abyss involved for those who answer incorrectly?

chad bentley

10 months ago

@Jirin – I think it’s less like being a drunk and more like being a stray cat. If you walk right by it all it does is say “Meow.” That’s the end.

However, if you decide the cat could use a nice scratch your taking the risk. It might purr and you both part happily or you might get a bunch of nails raked across your arm. Either way, even before interacting with the cat, you know you’re going to need to wash your hands when it’s all over.

Can you walk on by or do you need to stop and scratch? I know people who can’t help it…they always stop and scratch the damn cat.

House, we’d be set in a chat room with only Dim online

Linden_​Watters​on

10 months ago

A fast young European swallow.

Sounds like a lotta movies.

Or a novel by Collette or Anais Nin..

House of Leaves

-moderator-
10 months ago

Linden—It’s a Monty Python reference.

Rissela​da

-moderator-
10 months ago

If they answer wrong they get shunted to the IMDB message boards. ;)

House of Leaves

-moderator-
10 months ago

That’s abyss enough for me.

Linden_​Watters​on

10 months ago

@Ui and House:
Sorry.
Forgot.

My friends in high school kinda burned me out on Holy Grail with endless quotes, so I never re-watched.
Been a lotta years, so maybe I’ll retry.

Or sink into IMDB.

Linden, no, that was funny, don’t be sorry

Matt Parks

10 months ago

“closing them down is exactly what they want.”

What trolls want is to be disruptive. The longer troll threads stay open, the more (potentially) disruptive they can be. So, like almost every other internet forum I can think of, they get shut down at a certain point.

and just stating again, the thread in question was not a troll thread

Robert W Peabody III

10 months ago

What trolls want is to be disruptive.
The motivation must be in self affirmation. Ultimately, they become unified…..

Nietzsche:
“My idea is that each body (force) strives to become master over the whole opf space, and to spread out its power – its WILL-TO-POWER repelling whatever resists its expansion. But it strikes continually upon a like endeavor of other forces, and ends by adjusting itself (“unifying”) with them…"