“but 10 times better than all the Godfathers? hehe…in what universe? and says who? ohh, says Dimitris, lol, case closed”
what are you, an academic junkie? you sure sound like one…watch more cinema and then start mocking me….you sound like you’re a RUS clone!!!!
Maybe we should find a compromise and just say the truth: Apocalypse Now is 5 times better than the Godfather films. ;)
I’m of the opinion that Spider is the best Cronenberg film, that Another Woman is the best Woody Allen film, that Marnie is the best Hitchcock film, and that The Girlfriend Experience might be the most interesting thing Soderbergh has done since Kafka.
Truth.
Sorry.
That’s just me. I’m kind of a Rosenbaum.
actually Drew, i consider his first two Godfathers and Apocalypse equal shelf but saying that he’s done nothing decent after a pop culture movie like Godfather II (as I) is (and on the same year of Conversation!), it’s quite ignorant in my book… ;)
I was just trying to be fair by making it 5 times. ;)
I too think they are almost equal, except not quite, because I place Apocalypse Now higher than The Godfather and quite a bit higher than The Godfather Part II.
Oliver Stone’s “W.” Terrible.
“what are you, an academic junkie? you sure sound like one…watch more cinema and then start mocking me….you sound like you’re a RUS clone!!!!”
Ahhh, Dimitris, you’re always reliable for a good laugh, so predictable, ehehehe
Watch more cinema, indeed….something you should heed…spend more time watching films, less time making (your usual) idiotic posts. What are you….all of 20? 22?
You sound like a kid… who’s seen maybe 200 films.
No need for me to mock you….you do a fine job on your own, lol.
NUN: you are entitled to your opinion, but are you seriously arguing that The Thing is worse than Village Of The Damned or Ghosts Of Mars?
“who’s seen maybe 200 films”
said the classicist 13 year old ignorant. trust me, i know a lot more than you will ever imagine, and i’m talking about beyond cinema…so give me a break pal, you do sound like RUS though, hahaha. i’m 23 and proud of it.
“you do a fine job on your own, lol.”
i can also speak better than you, what is lol, some kind of Anglophone phrasal verb? you poor child…
> have you seen King Kong, one of the worst remakes ever made????
Well yes i have seen King Kong, and it’s a great picture. i’m sorry but it’s far far better than the other King Kong remake… Naomi Watts is just awesome in the movie and it’s a pretty good movie… I mean, okay, maybe you get bored a bit because there are 20 minutes that should not exist in the movie. But still, i think it’s a great movie. Far better than Bad tastes… Okay, the 1933 King Kong is a masterpiece, anyway, as a remake, Jackson’s King Kong is good. Maybe not his best shot, okay, but not his worst… But well, i suppose you’re saying this because you think King Kong is a blockbuster so it must not be a great movie. Just like 1933 King Kong was not a blockbuster when it was shown in theatre…
And Lord of the Ring is awesome too. i’m sorry, but these books were considered as impossible to be adapted for the cinema. And Peter Jackson just made the impossible, possible. And that, is just marvellous…
Oh and please Dimitri, just leave him alone. I mean, your argument is that he acts like an academic ? What about you ? I mean you act like someone who thinks he’s better than everyone else just because he’s seen more movies than them ? What about you ? You really are acting like a kid right now. What is that “I know a lot more than you imagine”… You’re a little egocentric i guess. But anyway, i’m not judging you, just stop arguing about things you can’t argue about. Everyone has tastes. Some know more about films, some look like they know a lot, and some just don’t know about cinema. That’s life. get over it.
Oh, and i think The Thing is fine… ^^
“And Peter Jackson just made the impossible, possible. And that, is just marvellous…”
sure, Lovely Bones was the big blow-up, but still…King Kong compared to the free-roaming Jackson of his low-budget period…is tooooo small…and whoever said the first remake was worth of anything?
“You really are acting like a kid right now.”
i don’t give a rat’s ass about what you think, i know when i’m right. whoever can’t say anything better than calling me egomaniac means he / she cannot contradict me. please, don’t try to.
“Fellini : later films”
I love his later films – Ginger and Fred, …And the Ship Sails On and City of Women are all among his best films imo. G&F being my all time favourite Fellini movie.
> sure, Lovely Bones was the big blow-up, but still…King Kong compared to the free-roaming Jackson of his low-budget period…is tooooo small…and whoever said the first remake was worth of anything?
Of course, King Kong is nothing compared to Dead Alive, Heavenly Creatures, The frighteners but Bad Tastes is nothing compared to themm too… And, i find it awful… The picture is funny, but that’s the only part of the film i appreciate…
> i don’t give a rat’s ass about what you think
Okay then… It’s not by acting this way you’ll make a point of something. If you want your opinion and ideas to be heard, you have to express them respectfully, this way people will be able to listen to you, and maybe change their mind… But with acting like a jerk, you just bring nothing but silly arguments… But that’s my opinion, and i guess you don’t give a crap about what i think like you said…
Message posted by Dimitris on my wall :
“wake up you lowlife loser and open your mind before you start insulting one’s character instead of his / her taste”
LOL. Is that the best you can do? You can stop pounting now. Mommy will make you all better.
“LOL.”
you still don’t know anything about grammar / vocabulary.
“Message posted by Dimitris on my wall "
moreover, i don’t hijack threads and publicize comments like immature sheep.
“But with acting like a jerk,”
sometimes, it’s the only way in order to extinguish narrowmindeness….
Guys, as the saloon-owner in a western would say: take it outside.
“love his later films – Ginger and Fred, …And the Ship Sails On and City of Women are all among his best films imo. G&F being my all time favourite Fellini movie.”
Interesting. And The Ship Sails On is one of his most enigmatic films. it’s rarely ever debated, because most probably haven’t seen it of course, but also due to the fact that it’s highly ambigious. ‘City Of Women’ is a great looking film that deals with ‘bigger’ social ideas than usual for Fellini. I’m not sure if it’s 100% successful, but it’s an underrated movie neveretheless.
Ginger And Fred is entertaining but it lacks ambition i think. it just looks like a studio picture to me, although it’s great to see his wife and M.M together on screen.
ambition is not what makes films great
sometimes a lack of ambition is what is called for as in The Clowns by Fellini or Parade by Tati, two great works
Den, I REALLY wanna see Parade!!
@ Dimitris – I’m glad someone already mentioned Spielberg’s “War of the Worlds” as one of his worst, before I was going to. Fanning’s incessant screaming was absolutely wretched, the ending felt cheap and totally undeserved (even if it was faithful to the book), and those nice special effects and a few effective scares all went to waste on an overall ineffectual narrative. What a waste of time the “War of the Worlds” remake was.
@ RLS and Kilgore Trout – Ho, ho ho! You all are severely misinformed to think that “Mr. Arkadin” could qualify as a bad movie, much less Welles’ worst! There were exactly two things wrong with “Mr. Arkadin,” Robert Arden as the lead and the dubbing in certain sections. The way the movie’s narrative cuts across itself and adds another layer of intrigue onto another kept my attention throughout, and the occasionally chintzy look of the props and the make-up only heightened the sense that the viewer was in another time, even if it was in a (then-present) familiar European environment. And some of the camera work in the movie was absolutely astounding. I’m thinking specifically of the tracking shot during the Christmas party, where Arkadin plays Santa for a little while but reveals to Arden a lot more about his motivations and actions in the investigation into his background. Thinking about the procession of the hooded catholic marchers during that one scene below the castle, where the chick compares them to “Klanners” was very evocative and effective as well. And Paul Mizraki’s score absolutely rocked.
- With all that being said, I’m going to add that I thought Linklater’s “Bad News Bears” remake was absolutely lifeless, and would qualify as his worst for me. “War of the Worlds” is definitely Spielberg’s worst that I’ve seen, and I thought Polanski’s version of “Oliver Twist” was just plain dull. And I think Tarantino’s least effectual, “worst” movie was “Reservoir Dogs,” even though it’s attention grabbing. I never got any sense that a lot of those guys had a lot personally at stake with the heist, that they were just schmos doing it pretty much ‘cause they didn’t have anything else lined up at that moment. “Death Proof” was a fun revenge thriller that, for me, kicked into high gear when the revenge part came into play. The dialogue between the gals revealed a bit about their characters for me, and I responded to some of them meeting an untimely demise. It was also worthwhile and cathartic to see Kurt Russell get it in the end.
- I’m gonna make it interesting for you all, because the worst Marty Scorsese movie I’ve seen so far was “Mean Streets.” And that takes into consideration “The Departed” and “The Aviator.” That “Mean Streets” movie just had no emotional impact on me whatsoever, except that it left me wondering why the hell Keitel’s character didn’t just cut De Niro loose. Very down-the-middle for me.
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It may be not THE worst film ever made by a great director, but Hitchcock’s “Jamaica Inn” is pretty bad.
c’mon jurassic park was the shit.
Soderbergh’s The Informant, the worst film of 2009 and I loved The Girlfriend Experience and Traffic.
I am so fascinated by some of the responses here…
Someone has said Oliver Stone’s W. was his nadir… Now I actually thought that film had a quirky strength to it! It was far from being “bad”. To me, NATURAL BORN KILLERS is basically unwatchable.
To me , Woody Allen’s HUSBANDS AND WIVES was a nightmare to sit through. That shakycam nonsense actually made me nauseous and gave me a splitting headache.
Some have said that FRENZY was Hitch’s worst… Are you kidding? It’s so stylish and funny and the violence is like a kind of voyeuristic porn, it’s great! Now maybe I will surprise a few people by saying THE TROUBLE WITH CHARLIE is Hitch’s worst. Yes, it launched the career of the fabulous Shirley Maclaine…. but the movie itself is the stupidest, cutesiest thing I ever saw, with an idiotic, deus-ex-machina denouement. It’s even worse than MARNIE.
I also agree that SUMMER WITH MONIKA was not Bergman’s worst. Far from it. It’s actually a good, simple little movie. As someone here has stated, they must not have seen his 70’s stuff. THE SERPENT’S EGG was colossally turgid and boring… HOUR OF THE WOLF was a dreary snorefest, too.
I will offend some here, I’m sure, by saying that THE MAGNIFICENT AMBERSONS is so slow and posed and cutesy, I could barely sit through it.
So surprised that someone would mention JULIET OF THE SPIRITS as Fellini’s worst. No, it’s quite interesting and charming, even if it doesn’t hang together as tightly as some earlier pictures. I will astound everyone here on MUBI when I say that I think SATYRICON is the most draggy, boring, one-trick-pony I have ever seen.
Cassavetes’ “bad” picture? Why, it’s his stock-in-trade. (-: And Wes Anderson isn’t far behind.
Hard to believe that Burton, the man who gave us the very sharp and adult, stylish and witty ED WOOD…. would make an embarrassing stinker like ALICE IN WONDERLAND.
Antonioni’s ZABRISKIE POINT was bad….. but it was bad in a most interesting, queerly memorable way. (-:
……..and what do we make of Vittorio Di Sica’s venture into low-brow comedy, AFTER THE FOX ?
Eyes Wide Shut, lifeless, sexless garbage
EWS is on my list of movies I hate
glad to see one person on my side Uli.
Pirates – Roman Polanski
Hail Mary – JL Godard
Consenting Adults – Alan J Pakula
Monsignor – Frank Perry
Rosebud – Otto Preminger
The cake of this topic has to be:
Wong Kar-Wai’s My Blueberry Nights
I mean WTF happened to this movie? Terrible story, horrendous casting on Norah Jones’ part. Even the soundtrack was not up to par for a Wong Kar-Wai film, though the use of Cat Power’s The Greatest was nice. This film left such a foul taste in Wong being able to make a great film outside the Hong Kong system. With the summation of his “early style” being evident in 2046 and how bad Blueberry was makes it feel that Wong Kar-Wai is now past his prime… :(
Dimitris Psachos
“Peter Jackson’s Bad taste is actually is worst movie. I guess he had Bad tastes back then ah ah:D (Lame…) i’m not a big fan of The Lovely Bones too even if it is a fine movie…”
have you seen King Kong, one of the worst remakes ever made????
“but 10 times better than all the Godfathers? hehe…in what universe? and says who? ohh, says Dimitris, lol, case closed”
what are you, an academic junkie? you sure sound like one…watch more cinema and then start mocking me….you sound like you’re a RUS clone!!!!