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Sofia Coppola for Alice in Wonderland almost 3 years ago

Does anyone else think Sofia Coppola would have been a far better choice to direct the new alice in wonderland adaptation rather then Tim Burton?
I like Tim Burton as a filmmaker but based on all the images/trailers i’ve seen of the film i don’t think he was the right person to direct alice in wonderland. What are your thoughts?
Or any other directors you think would have been a better choice?

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Most Anticipated Films almost 3 years ago

where the wild things are
the lovely bones
somewhere
fantastic mr fox
the cove
avatar (Cameron & Shyamalan)
bright star
ponyo
alice in wonderland

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Sofia Coppola for Alice in Wonderland almost 3 years ago

In reply to roscoe: Lost in Translation, a snoozefest? how ridiculous. Just because it was a film that was more interested in mood and atmosphere rather then plot doesn’t make it a snoozefest. granted it was paced a lot slower than a lot of contemporary cinema but it was completley engaging and hypnotic. Sofia Coppola had complete mastery over all the elements of cinematic language in this film. She is a genius and a true auteur.

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Sofia Coppola for Alice in Wonderland almost 3 years ago

Polarisdib:
I agree with a lot of what you said about tim burton’s alice in wonderland. It just feels like he was the most obvious choice for disney so he got the job. He does continue to make the same film over and over again, he uses the same basic style in every film he does (gothic characters and stylings contrasted with lots of bright over saturated pop art colours) and his insistence on casting Johnny Depp in every lead. I mean johnny depp as the mad hatter why? depps a great actor but there was no reason for him to play the hatter except that burton was making it. There are so many actors out there who would be much better suited to the role.

The reason that Sofia Coppola immediately came to mind was that in her films, the key theme that she explores is of lost, beautiful, dreamy young woman cocooned in their own worlds who are at crossroads in their lives. This immediately brought the Alice books in to my mind as at their most basic level they are about a dreamy young girl escaping into her own fantasy world.
The other reason was that she would have built beautiful wonky sets and great costumes, the mise en scene factor would have been amazing like her marie antoinette instead of all this 3D/CGI bullshit that Burton is using. I’m not a fan of 3D or films that use CGI extensively for no specific reason other than to just use them. Coppola would have only used CGI where it was absolutly needed as opposed to making it the focus of the film.

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Is it even possible Where the Wild Things Are won't be at least very good? almost 3 years ago

An impressive and well thought out argument, I tip my hat off to you. I am very exicted about this film, i think i’ve watched the trailer more times then i can remember. Spike Jonze is a very good director and it looks like they’ve got every element of the film right including acting, directing, costumes etc. I’m also very exicted about the sound of Lance Acord on board for another Jonze film as he is one of my favourite cinematographers. The fact that jonze and his team have used henson-style puppets to bring the monsters to life and only using subtle hints of CGI is a stroke of genius. This does look like a masterpiece and i pray it doesn’t disapoint, but i very much doubt it will.

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Great performances that hardly ever get discussed almost 3 years ago

Kate Hudson in Almost Famous
A wonderful performance, it’s a shame about the rest of her career.

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Film watching habits almost 3 years ago

Everytime i sit down to watch a film, i always have to have one slice of buttered bread and a pot of tea made from my favourite teapot.
very mad hatter from alice in wonderland me thinks.

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top 10 favourite films from your home country almost 3 years ago

well i was born in Bermuda, and i think anyone would struggle to name 10 films coming from that country, does anyone actually know of any Bermudian films or filmmakers? i very much doubt anything of the sort exists.

I was raised in Scotland and can think of no Scottish film that i hold any great affection for, i hate Trainspotting and Danny Boyle with a passion as do i hate Sweet Sixteen and Ken Loach with a passion. Local Hero was a nice little film but nothing extraordinary. I do really like the Wicker Man (the original, naturally) so there we go, one scottish film i really like.

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What's your favorite country (by cinematical standards) almost 3 years ago

Winner- France
Runners Up- Sweden, USA, Japan

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Feelings about Andrei Rublev? almost 3 years ago

is your screen name honestly ‘poopbutt’ dear lord how old are you? 8? 9? maybe 10. A piece of advice, if your going to discuss a film like Andrei Rublev and talk about the expansiveness and depth of said film and go on to name drop Umberto D and Ivan’s Childhood and say ‘it lacked the hypnotic feeling of his work from Solaris onward’ you really must change your name immediately, for i refuse to have an intelligent conversation with anyone who refers to themselves as ‘Poopbutt’ unless that is your birth name of course, then i guess it’s ok.

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Who do you think the most overrated director is? almost 3 years ago

Irrena, Sofia Coppola?

reasons please.

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Who do you think the most overrated director is? almost 3 years ago

Irrena:
I respect your critique of Sofia Coppola but i must disagree with you on her merit, skill and worth as a director. True, being the child of a famous and an acclaimed film director does not immediately confirm any talent for said child, but i believe Coppola Jr has proven with her three feature films to date that she is a filmmaker of great skill and posseses a unique vision. I don’t think it’s accurate or fair to accuse Kirsten Dunst of being an actress ‘who just can’t give much’ as she gave an intelligent and sensitive performance as Lux Lisbon in ‘The Virgin Suicides’ one that possesed a maturity far beyond her years, she was also wonderful in a film called ‘The Cat’s Meow’ she can give subtle supporting performances in independent films (Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind) and is convincing as a leading lady (the Spiderman franchise)

From your post i get the feeling that one of the reasons you don’t like her as a filmmaker is because she doesn’t employ traditional plots or storytelling techniques in her films, which is absolutely true. The only plot in Lost in Translation to speak of consists of two mature, intelligent adults, who are at cross roads in their lives, meeting in a Tokyo hotel and creating a friendship, that is effectively it plot wise, but that’s ok because Coppola isn’t interested in creating a traditional hollywood romance with lots of twists and turns and revelations. It’s a very human film that reflects human relationships very effectively and honestly, it isn’t however a strict realism film either (the fact that one of the main characters is a hollywood movie star and the other is a philosophy graduate from Yale pretty much forgoes any strong ties with the real world) it’s very dreamlike and it casts a spell that keeps you watching right to the end, and to the infamous whisper. It is the most beautifully crafted film, the way Coppola creates and sustains mood and atmosphere as a director/writer with her skilled use of music, the way she frames a shot, the dialogue she writes is inspiring and wonderful to behold, the film flows effortlessly. In the end who needs a traditional hollywood plot when you have a director that is so skilled in crafting unique and interesting films?
As for Bill Murray, he simple gives the most subtle, intelligent and natural performance of the year. He was robbed at the Academy Awards.

‘The Virgin Suicides’ is a film that is very much worth talking about. To dismiss it as just a film for ‘teenage girls’ shows a somewhat lack of understanding of the film. ‘Mean Girls’ is a film just for teenage girls, never ‘The Virgin Suicides’
The main protagonists maybe teenage girls and it does have josh hartnett in it, but the film isn’t just about the sisters, it’s equally about the teenage guys across the street obsessing about tham and explores themes of adolesence in general. Again Coppola doesn’t employ traditional plot/storytelling techniques. She makes no serious attempt to explain why the sisters kill themselves, which is fine because that isn’t what Coppola’s film is about or interested in. Another, inferior director probably would have done this, but Coppola goes down a much more natural and organic road: she makes us feel and sense the sisters pain and lonliness and isolation from the world rather than mounting a police inquiry and trying to figure out every last detail as to why they killed themselves. It’s a very natural, refreshing and intelligent approach. She achieves this again with her skilled use of music (a perfect score from Air) the way she frames her shots and the colours she uses, the palette she paints from, her intelligent screenplay and subtle direction. Again this is a film more about mood and atmosphere rather then plot points. It’s magical, haunting and poetic.
‘She forgets about the story’ no she doesn’t, she just explores it in a different way.

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Feelings about Andrei Rublev? almost 3 years ago

It’s my middle name, it was my grandfather’s first name, it refers to a remote island off the coast of Scotland (but the island is spelled Lundy) and i think everyone here will agree it’s a more interesting or at the very least a far less stupid and immature user-name then ‘poopbutt’

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WORLD CUP: VOTING- FRANCE V NEW ZEALAND (GROUP 2) over 2 years ago

1. Diary of a Country Priest 0 v The Piano 1
2. Jules et Jim 0 v Heavenly Creatures 1
3. Le Cercle Rouge 1 v Phantom of the Opera 0

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THE AUTEURS BEST OF THE DECADE: FILMMAKERS over 2 years ago

Filmmakers of the Decade:

Sofia Coppola
Lars Von Trier
Hayao Miyazaki
Michael Haneke
Michel Gondry
Christopher Nolan
Gus Van Sant
Peter Jackson
David Lynch
Pedro Almodovar

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THE AUTEURS BEST OF THE DECADE: POSTERS over 2 years ago

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New trailer for Alice in Wonderland...anybody else basically sick of Burton and Depp? over 2 years ago

Sick and tired of Burton & Depp collaboration over here, Vocalities. Burton’s a perfectly fine director when your 14 but you soon grow out of him and his faux gothic stylings and cardboard cut-out characters. When you’re older you discover the truth: Tim Burton is a world class production designer and illustrator but a great film director he is not.

His Alice in Wonderland adaptation sickens me to the core. Here are two of the greatest pieces of children’s literature ever written (Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland & Through the Looking Glass) which are defined by their enchanting English Whimsy and Burton has come along and painted over it all with lots of 3D digital effects and dark gothic art direction. Note to Tim Burton: Alice in Wonderland is not a gothic story! I understand that the books have been adapted for the screen so many times so any director who comes on the project has to bring something new to it, but my point is that Burton’s adaptation is a horrible, obvious and immature interpretation of these great works of art. And it’s the same blueprint which he has used for every single film from Edward Scissorhands right through to Sleepy Hollow and Sweeny Todd. Enough is enough! I want pretty green woods and handmade wonky sets with beautiful costumes and subtle art direction from an Alice in Wonderland adaptation not lots of really bad looking 3D CGI with giant oversized heads and self consciously dark, shadowy visuals.

And Johnny Depp as the Mad Hatter aggravates me even more. Now Johnny Depp is a brilliant actor, no doubt about it but he should not be playing the Mad Hatter. There is nothing about him, his presence or physique, which suggests the Mad Hatter to me. There are so many other actors out there that would be so much better suited to the part. Just look at him in the trailer with his bright orange hair and his face painted white, he looks ridiculous. The Mad Hatter’s face should not be painted white!!

This looks like a completely wretched film. Give me Jan Svankmajer’s Alice or the 1971 adaptation with Fiona Fullerton any day over this. Stick to your illustrations Tim, it’s wear your talent lies.

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New trailer for Alice in Wonderland...anybody else basically sick of Burton and Depp? over 2 years ago

True, Roscoe, there was a maturity and growth to his work on Sweeny Todd and Ed Wood but there is no denying the cardboard cutout characterisation, immaturity and overly reliance on gothic visuals found in the follwoing films:

Edward Scissorhands
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory
Batman
Pee wee’s Big Adventure
Corpse Bride
Mars Attacks
Beetlejuice
Planet of the Apes
Sleepy Hollow
Big Fish

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Top 10 Films of All Time over 2 years ago

My Top Ten.

1. The Red Shoes (Powell & Pressburger)
2. Fanny and Alexander (Bergman)
3. Princess Mononoke (Miyazaki)
4. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (Gondry)
5. Manhattan (Allen)
6. La Belle et La Bete (Cocteau)
7. Mulholland Drive (Lynch)
8. The Virgin Suicides (S. Coppola)
9. A Bout de Souffle (Godard)
10. If… (Anderson)

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Best Cinematography you have ever seen? over 2 years ago

MANHATTAN
2046 & IN THE MOOD FOR LOVE
LA BELLE ET LA BELLE
MARIE ANTOINETTE
DAYS OF HEAVEN
ALICES ADVENTURES IN WONDERLAND (1972)
THE GODFATHER
BRIGHT STAR
BARRY LYNDON
ORLANDO
FAR FROM HEAVEN
ATONEMENT
HERO

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Best Cinematography you have ever seen? over 2 years ago

MANHATTAN
2046 & IN THE MOOD FOR LOVE
LA BELLE ET LA BELLE
MARIE ANTOINETTE
DAYS OF HEAVEN
ALICES ADVENTURES IN WONDERLAND (1972)
THE GODFATHER
BRIGHT STAR
BARRY LYNDON
ORLANDO
FAR FROM HEAVEN
ATONEMENT
HERO

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Best Cinematography you have ever seen? over 2 years ago

MANHATTAN
2046 & IN THE MOOD FOR LOVE
LA BELLE ET LA BELLE
MARIE ANTOINETTE
DAYS OF HEAVEN
ALICES ADVENTURES IN WONDERLAND (1972)
THE GODFATHER
BRIGHT STAR
BARRY LYNDON
ORLANDO
FAR FROM HEAVEN
ATONEMENT
HERO

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3 most visually pleasing films you've ever seen over 2 years ago

The Red Shoes (1948)
Orlando (1992)
In the Mood for Love (2001)

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Who should have directed Alice in Wonderland? about 2 years ago

There are many directors I would have loved to see adapting Carroll’s Alice books over Tim Burton. I would love see a female perspective on Alice in Wonderland and I can’t believe in the history of cinema there has never been an Alice in Wonderland directed by a female filmmaker ( I think)
I agree with Doctor Lemonglow and would go for either Jane Campion or Sofia Coppola, the two best contemporary female directors. Coppola with her penchant for beatiful cinematography/art direction/costume design and her key theme of lost girls living in hermetic bubbles always seemed like the perfect choice to me.
The idea of Lars Von Trier tumbling down the rabbit hole I have to admit sounds very intriguing, though If I could pick any auteur, alive or dead, to make a film of Lewis Carrol’s masterpiece it would have been Jean Cocteau, now that is what I call a perfect marriage of source material and director.

The lethal combination of the money hungry Disney corporation and the talentless goth ‘auteur’ Tim Burton was never going to produce a great work of art.

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