1. I can’t believe I just read through all five pages of this.
2. I can’t believe that I’m posting after seeing the futility of doing so and also seeing that none of the original posters are even paying attention anymore.
3a. Yes, Criterion can release whatever they want, I get it, they can, great. This is so clear from the top, I can’t understand why anyone would ever feel the need to say it. A non-statement. So, supposedly can anyone or company or entity. Hurray. But Why am I not allowed to dislike what they do, disagree with what they do, persuade through means available to me for them not to do it? Why are my only options allowed to be either supporting them or not caring?
3b. Does anyone here telling people to stop complaining/wasting time/caring/etc realize they are on an internet message board?
3c. Yes, Criterion has released stupid garbage in the past. Why am i not allowed to hope they never do again?
4. Where do I have to go to stop hearing the phrase, “it’s only a movie”?
5. Where do I have to go to stop hearing the phrase, “artsy fartsy” used in a way that is supposed to mean anything?
6. I actually went into watching BB with sort of medium-high expectations, as a number of critics seemed to think it was kinda alright. Yes, I was suspicious. But I wasn’t yet annoyed by hype or looking to shoot it down. I don’t know why I would ever go to a movie hoping it was bad. Although people seem to think that “film snobs” (whoever the hell they actually are) do this, I doubt anyone ever does this. Nobody goes to see a movie in order to hate it! what? I hope that every movie I watch will be the best movie I’ve ever seen. why wouldn’t i do that?
7. I couldn’t believe how much it sucked. We are talking in the range of “Ray” or the remake of “The Manchurian Candidate.” I’m not sure I can take David Fincher seriously as a director ever again. The only redeeming value for me was seeing a baby looking like an old man, which I have never seen before. great.
8. Who loves absurd overstatements and exaggerations? language is boring with them, especially on the internet.
9. “If this film had been made for less money and was not made with an american studio…..nobody would be debating it being criterion.” It’s interesting that I’m not supposed to let these factors be part of whether or not a movie is good, important, or valuable (three different things those, too). It’s interesting that paying attention to or caring about those things would make me close minded as someone earlier said.
10. It’s fine if you liked it. I don’t understand and I may want to argue but it’s fine. So why can’t you be fine with me hating it? Looking back, I should have known better and just never watched it, thus freeing myself from getting involved in this. but its too late for that now.
Samuryan, I’m not sure where you would get such an idea, but I don’t think its true. If you haven’t noticed the internet practically exists for people to endlessly discuss everything that has ever happened ever. I’m sure with very little trouble I could find hundreds of message board/blog/facebook posts about topics which are not important or of merit. You argument is resting on the old assertion that importance is merely a numbers game. For instance, If you were to poll the entire world, about which musicians or filmmakers where their favorites, you would arrive not at the most important artists or even the best artists, but only who the most people have heard about at that given time in history. Worse, probably most people’s favorites would not get enough votes to show up, therefore the list would merely be who everyone in the world maybe kinda likes, but would pass as The Ultimate Standard. This is of course the hollywood business model, and the reason anyone cares about the box office (which boy would i be glad to never hear those words again). This is also incorrect.
BB is not so lucky as to be a true controversy for Criterion. Its just a lame middle of the road blockbuster by a sort of good director, that some people like and some people hate.
but in anycase the more i write does not do more to validate it. i realize that is an argument people use for things but its one that doesn’t make sense. people have stated this better than me but its so late at night i don’t know why i’m sitll awake.
Benjamin Button!?!? What the Hell? about 3 years ago
Random Points:
1. I can’t believe I just read through all five pages of this.
2. I can’t believe that I’m posting after seeing the futility of doing so and also seeing that none of the original posters are even paying attention anymore.
3a. Yes, Criterion can release whatever they want, I get it, they can, great. This is so clear from the top, I can’t understand why anyone would ever feel the need to say it. A non-statement. So, supposedly can anyone or company or entity. Hurray. But Why am I not allowed to dislike what they do, disagree with what they do, persuade through means available to me for them not to do it? Why are my only options allowed to be either supporting them or not caring?
3b. Does anyone here telling people to stop complaining/wasting time/caring/etc realize they are on an internet message board?
3c. Yes, Criterion has released stupid garbage in the past. Why am i not allowed to hope they never do again?
4. Where do I have to go to stop hearing the phrase, “it’s only a movie”?
5. Where do I have to go to stop hearing the phrase, “artsy fartsy” used in a way that is supposed to mean anything?
6. I actually went into watching BB with sort of medium-high expectations, as a number of critics seemed to think it was kinda alright. Yes, I was suspicious. But I wasn’t yet annoyed by hype or looking to shoot it down. I don’t know why I would ever go to a movie hoping it was bad. Although people seem to think that “film snobs” (whoever the hell they actually are) do this, I doubt anyone ever does this. Nobody goes to see a movie in order to hate it! what? I hope that every movie I watch will be the best movie I’ve ever seen. why wouldn’t i do that?
7. I couldn’t believe how much it sucked. We are talking in the range of “Ray” or the remake of “The Manchurian Candidate.” I’m not sure I can take David Fincher seriously as a director ever again. The only redeeming value for me was seeing a baby looking like an old man, which I have never seen before. great.
8. Who loves absurd overstatements and exaggerations? language is boring with them, especially on the internet.
9. “If this film had been made for less money and was not made with an american studio…..nobody would be debating it being criterion.” It’s interesting that I’m not supposed to let these factors be part of whether or not a movie is good, important, or valuable (three different things those, too). It’s interesting that paying attention to or caring about those things would make me close minded as someone earlier said.
10. It’s fine if you liked it. I don’t understand and I may want to argue but it’s fine. So why can’t you be fine with me hating it? Looking back, I should have known better and just never watched it, thus freeing myself from getting involved in this. but its too late for that now.
11. wow this was long. sorry everyone.
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Benjamin Button!?!? What the Hell? about 3 years ago
Samuryan, I’m not sure where you would get such an idea, but I don’t think its true. If you haven’t noticed the internet practically exists for people to endlessly discuss everything that has ever happened ever. I’m sure with very little trouble I could find hundreds of message board/blog/facebook posts about topics which are not important or of merit. You argument is resting on the old assertion that importance is merely a numbers game. For instance, If you were to poll the entire world, about which musicians or filmmakers where their favorites, you would arrive not at the most important artists or even the best artists, but only who the most people have heard about at that given time in history. Worse, probably most people’s favorites would not get enough votes to show up, therefore the list would merely be who everyone in the world maybe kinda likes, but would pass as The Ultimate Standard. This is of course the hollywood business model, and the reason anyone cares about the box office (which boy would i be glad to never hear those words again). This is also incorrect.
BB is not so lucky as to be a true controversy for Criterion. Its just a lame middle of the road blockbuster by a sort of good director, that some people like and some people hate.
but in anycase the more i write does not do more to validate it. i realize that is an argument people use for things but its one that doesn’t make sense. people have stated this better than me but its so late at night i don’t know why i’m sitll awake.
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