THE COLOR OF POMEGRANATES by Sergei Parajanov (and all his other films)
-THE BABY OF MACÔN by Peter Greenaway
-WHISPERING PAGES by Alexander Sokurov (it has never been released anywhere!!! nonsense!)
-SANTA SANGRE by alejandro Jodorowsky
-THE VISIT by Bernhard Wicki
-MORGIANA by Juraj Herz
-THAT OBSCURE OBJECT OF DESIRE by Luis Buñuel
-MOROCCO by Josef von Sternberg
-BABY DOLL by Elia kazan
-TEOREMA by Pier P. Pasolini
-DECAMERON, CANTERBURY TALES, ARABIAN NIGHTS - (Pasolini’s full “trilogy of Life”)
-MEDEA by Pier P. Pasolini
-CELINE AND JULIE GO BOATING by Jacques Rivette
-FELLINI’S CASANOVA
-CENTRAL DO BRASIL by Walter Salles
-VAI E VEM by João Cesar Monteiro
-LA MARIÉE ÉTAIT EN NOIR by François Truffaut
-VERONIKA VOSS by Fassbinder
-FEMMES FEMMES by Paul Vecchiali (one of Pasolini’s favourite films, recently released only in france)
-IL GIARDINO DELLE DELIZIE by Silvano Agosti (a lost jewel highly praised by Ingmar Bergman when presented in cannes 67 and censured by the vaticane. Released in 2009 only in France)
Last Year at Marienbad,
8 1/2,
Stalker,
Ivan’s Childhood
Andrei Rublev,
Through a Glass Darkly,
Mother and Son,
Juliet of the Spirits,
Fellini’s Casanova,
The Red Shoes,
The Cook, The Thief, His Wife and Her Lover,
Institute Benjamenta,
Au hazard, Balthazar,
l’avventura
l’eclisse,
metropolis,
2001: space odyssey,
…
i totally agree that we shouldn’t feel ashamed for anything we might enjoy, specially with films. And “ashamed” is probably a big word but let’s face it, we all do anyway! there’s always that film that we used to like when we were teens or pre-teens that we still have a “soft spot” for because of the souvenirs it brings like for example….
“Dirty Dancing” or….“Interview with a Vampire”…
Well, that’s me! i must have more, but i can’t remember now
“Stage Fright” from Alfred Hitchcock with Marlene Dietrich
i actually love it, and there’s one of the most glamorous scenes ever, when Marlene’s character is getting her dress fitted for the funeral of her husband and is being really sarcastic to her assistent while smoking under the musseline veil and worring more about the deepness of the decolté rather than mourning her dead husband.
“One from the Heart” (1982) by Francis Ford Coppola
I think it was his first film but rarelly mentioned.
it’s classified as a musical, set in a highly stylized, studio constructed Las Vegas, where the actors (including Nastassja Kinski) don’t sing but the score by Tom Waits and Teddy Edwards takes a big role.
It’s very kitsch as only the 80’s can be, full of the cliché elements that define the period with its pink neon lights in big bubbly signature type font over the window of a milkshape bar, strippers in giant cocktail glasses, palm trees and a lot of plastic.
I just saw bits of it and i kind of liked it, there’s a trippy, psychedelic feel to it!
but really, it’s very far from being a masterpiece!
Fellini’s “Satyricon” is a very underestimated film and i personally consider it one of his best and among my very favourites of all time!
and “Lifeboat” by Hitchcock, i saw it recently and i thought it was greater than many of his praised ones! Rich in content, minimal in style
and hey Dimitris, as for an obscure masterpiece from “de Oliveira”, do you mean Manoel de Oliveira?
i don’t know if you saw his first feature film “ANIKI BÓBÓ” but that is by far his best film ever! In Portugal it’s one of the most emblematic films of all time, a real national classic! everyone from various generations know the film by name (many of them without even having seen it) but i don’t know if the film is well know in the international circuit or had any release or whatsoever.
But you know, I’m portuguese and i must say that apart from “Aniki bóbó” (which is very close in essence to the italian neorealist principles) i’m not a fan of his work at all! i agree he has a very personal and original narrative style, and i sometimes can apreciate the aesthetic quality of some of his work but on the other hand and among other reasons, most of his fetish actors and their acting skills are very questionable, lacking often authenticity, ex. often over-acting when they shouldn’t be, and being dull when they should express intense emotions (and no, it is not a stylistic choice), which overshadows completely the intentional meaning of the content or events.
I don’t know if you speak or understand well portuguese in order to capture the subtleties of the language and its musicality but i garantee you that most of the times it is agonizing to watch Oliveira’s films, specially “Vale Abraão”! It is probably the worst, most tedious film i have ever watched in my life! it’s a bad joke!!! and after all is one of his most praised works internationally!…
Don’t get me wrong i do love slow pace movies, (i’m the biggest fan of Bresson, Tarkovsky, Sokurov,…their work is poetry to my eyes and ears) but manoel de oliveira’s…simply forget about it!
it’s a bit sad to say that, because he is one of the most distinguished personalities in the panteón of portuguese culture and I admire his strengh as a man/artist, (sure, it is very unique to be alive at his age let alone being actively filming with 102 years old), but i cannot empathize one bit with his work at all.
However, there’s a film of his with french production called “je rentre à la maison” (2001) that has not been very talked about and curiously, it is the one i liked the most
also an older one: “‘NON’, ou a vanglória de mandar” (1990)
in any case there’s so many and I haven’t seen most of them
JP, your video made me remember something… but this is for everyone, of course
Have you guys ever seen a 70’s/80’s british stop-motion animation series + film called “The Wind in the Willows”?
it’s based on a children’s book, with little animals of the woods dressed in very dandish country clothes, with english manerisms, drinking tea, living in kind of highly detailed victorian style miniature houses in the trees,bla, bla, bla
god, just came back to me! how i was obssessed with it as a child when it was on tv…years passed and i recently bought the DVD pack and watched it with my little cousins…they were bored as hell!! not enough adrenaline, too much sweetness and old fashion morals, i guess!
maybe you wouldn’t like it either ! just felt like checking with you guys, because everybody of my generation i talk to about it, don’t really know or show genuine interest!
i do love it, and definitly not ashamed of it!
here’s a sample of it and one of my favourite episodes, that i can remember of:
i guess we are not really, really ashamed, otherwise we wouldn’t share it so lightheartedly :)
This is actually a CELEBRATION of our conscious “bad taste” or whatever we wish to call it (and yes, if we start to dissect the concept we’ll find out that there’s no such thing as good and bad taste; that taste is relative or subjective therefore not discussable, bla, bla, bla…)
I say:
LONG LIVE GOOD, BAD AND SO-AND-SO FILMS!!!
CHEERS TO RIDICULOUS GREATNESS, GREAT NOTHINGNESS, SICK LOVELINESS AND LOVELLY WEIRDNESS!!!
Also, talking about native filmmakers, there are 2 portuguese directors that i really like,
There’s JOÃO CESAR MONTEIRO, a controversial visionary author, partly IGNORED BY the big public, parlty KEPT AWAY FROM the big public. He was permanently criticized or misunderstood for his politically incorrect and idiosyncratic body of work while admired by many colleague directors and film critics from all over the world. His work is full of personal symbolism, political and religious critiscism, morbid humour, sarcasm, cynicism and plenty of dualities like virtue V perversion, high culture V popular culture, etc
(see specially “Recordações da casa Amarela”, “A Comédia de Deus”, e “Vai e Vem”(finished few days before he died and in my opinion, his masterpiece and a “swansong” in cinematic terms)
there’s PEDRO COSTA a very acclaimed director of this generation,
(see specially the trilogy “cartas das Fontainhas” that includes: “no quarto da vanda”, “ossos” e “Juventude em Marcha” released recently by criterion collection )
i also don’t understand how is it possible that “WHISPERING PAGES” by Alexandr Sokurov has NEVER been released on dvd anywhere in the world, not even in Russia!!!
It’s a breathtaking film and one of the most beautiful, poetic films ever shot! and it’s practically unknown!!! i’ve been trying to find it for years and it continues inexistent!
i think this is probably THE most obscure masterpiece from any great filmmaker
That would be a major task for Criterion Collection!…
MAYBE WE SHOULD GATHER SIGNATURES HERE AND MAKE A PETITION FOR ITS RELEASE ADDRESSED TO CRITERION
WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK?
I checked way back from the beginning and many of you guys, have made really outstanding creative covers + some interesting hypothetical film propositions for Criterion!
I wish some of them were actually chosen by CC for release just as they are!
Movies That Should Be In the Criterion Collection over 2 years ago
THE COLOR OF POMEGRANATES by Sergei Parajanov (and all his other films)(Pasolini’s full “trilogy of Life”)-THE BABY OF MACÔN by Peter Greenaway
-WHISPERING PAGES by Alexander Sokurov (it has never been released anywhere!!! nonsense!)
-SANTA SANGRE by alejandro Jodorowsky
-THE VISIT by Bernhard Wicki
-MORGIANA by Juraj Herz
-THAT OBSCURE OBJECT OF DESIRE by Luis Buñuel
-MOROCCO by Josef von Sternberg
-BABY DOLL by Elia kazan
-TEOREMA by Pier P. Pasolini
-DECAMERON, CANTERBURY TALES, ARABIAN NIGHTS -
-MEDEA by Pier P. Pasolini
-CELINE AND JULIE GO BOATING by Jacques Rivette
-FELLINI’S CASANOVA
-CENTRAL DO BRASIL by Walter Salles
-VAI E VEM by João Cesar Monteiro
-LA MARIÉE ÉTAIT EN NOIR by François Truffaut
-VERONIKA VOSS by Fassbinder
-FEMMES FEMMES by Paul Vecchiali (one of Pasolini’s favourite films, recently released only in france)
-IL GIARDINO DELLE DELIZIE by Silvano Agosti (a lost jewel highly praised by Ingmar Bergman when presented in cannes 67 and censured by the vaticane. Released in 2009 only in France)
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Movies That Should Be In the Criterion Collection over 2 years ago
AH, AND VERY, VERY, VERY IMPORTANT…
STALKER and MIRROR by Andrei Tarkovsky
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Most rewatchable Criterion film? over 2 years ago
MOST LIKELY…“FELLINI’S 8 1/2”
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3 most visually pleasing films you've ever seen over 2 years ago
Last Year at Marienbad,
8 1/2,
Stalker,
Ivan’s Childhood
Andrei Rublev,
Through a Glass Darkly,
Mother and Son,
Juliet of the Spirits,
Fellini’s Casanova,
The Red Shoes,
The Cook, The Thief, His Wife and Her Lover,
Institute Benjamenta,
Au hazard, Balthazar,
l’avventura
l’eclisse,
metropolis,
2001: space odyssey,
…
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3 most visually pleasing films you've ever seen over 2 years ago
and UGETSU MONOGATARI
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CONFESS: over 2 years ago
Which film(s) do you actually like but are usually ashamed to admit?
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CONFESS: over 2 years ago
Hi Matt, you’re right! I’m new on mubi, didn’t check deep into the forum topic threads!
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CONFESS: over 2 years ago
i totally agree that we shouldn’t feel ashamed for anything we might enjoy, specially with films. And “ashamed” is probably a big word but let’s face it, we all do anyway! there’s always that film that we used to like when we were teens or pre-teens that we still have a “soft spot” for because of the souvenirs it brings like for example….
“Dirty Dancing” or….“Interview with a Vampire”…
Well, that’s me! i must have more, but i can’t remember now
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Obscure films by famous directors over 2 years ago
“Stage Fright” from Alfred Hitchcock with Marlene Dietrich
i actually love it, and there’s one of the most glamorous scenes ever, when Marlene’s character is getting her dress fitted for the funeral of her husband and is being really sarcastic to her assistent while smoking under the musseline veil and worring more about the deepness of the decolté rather than mourning her dead husband.
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CONFESS: over 2 years ago
actually, i quite like the Batman saga, but i do prefer the first 3 films directed + produced by tim burton, i guess
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Obscure films by famous directors over 2 years ago
“One from the Heart” (1982) by Francis Ford Coppola
I think it was his first film but rarelly mentioned.
it’s classified as a musical, set in a highly stylized, studio constructed Las Vegas, where the actors (including Nastassja Kinski) don’t sing but the score by Tom Waits and Teddy Edwards takes a big role.
It’s very kitsch as only the 80’s can be, full of the cliché elements that define the period with its pink neon lights in big bubbly signature type font over the window of a milkshape bar, strippers in giant cocktail glasses, palm trees and a lot of plastic.
I just saw bits of it and i kind of liked it, there’s a trippy, psychedelic feel to it!
but really, it’s very far from being a masterpiece!
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Obscure films by famous directors over 2 years ago
I agree with Dimitris,
Fellini’s “Satyricon” is a very underestimated film and i personally consider it one of his best and among my very favourites of all time!
and “Lifeboat” by Hitchcock, i saw it recently and i thought it was greater than many of his praised ones! Rich in content, minimal in style
and hey Dimitris, as for an obscure masterpiece from “de Oliveira”, do you mean Manoel de Oliveira?
i don’t know if you saw his first feature film “ANIKI BÓBÓ” but that is by far his best film ever! In Portugal it’s one of the most emblematic films of all time, a real national classic! everyone from various generations know the film by name (many of them without even having seen it) but i don’t know if the film is well know in the international circuit or had any release or whatsoever.
But you know, I’m portuguese and i must say that apart from “Aniki bóbó” (which is very close in essence to the italian neorealist principles) i’m not a fan of his work at all! i agree he has a very personal and original narrative style, and i sometimes can apreciate the aesthetic quality of some of his work but on the other hand and among other reasons, most of his fetish actors and their acting skills are very questionable, lacking often authenticity, ex. often over-acting when they shouldn’t be, and being dull when they should express intense emotions (and no, it is not a stylistic choice), which overshadows completely the intentional meaning of the content or events.
I don’t know if you speak or understand well portuguese in order to capture the subtleties of the language and its musicality but i garantee you that most of the times it is agonizing to watch Oliveira’s films, specially “Vale Abraão”! It is probably the worst, most tedious film i have ever watched in my life! it’s a bad joke!!! and after all is one of his most praised works internationally!…
Don’t get me wrong i do love slow pace movies, (i’m the biggest fan of Bresson, Tarkovsky, Sokurov,…their work is poetry to my eyes and ears) but manoel de oliveira’s…simply forget about it!
it’s a bit sad to say that, because he is one of the most distinguished personalities in the panteón of portuguese culture and I admire his strengh as a man/artist, (sure, it is very unique to be alive at his age let alone being actively filming with 102 years old), but i cannot empathize one bit with his work at all.
However, there’s a film of his with french production called “je rentre à la maison” (2001) that has not been very talked about and curiously, it is the one i liked the most
also an older one: “‘NON’, ou a vanglória de mandar” (1990)
in any case there’s so many and I haven’t seen most of them
i admit i probably never will
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CONFESS: over 2 years ago
LOOOOVE IT, JP!!! :)
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CONFESS: over 2 years ago
JP, your video made me remember something… but this is for everyone, of course
Have you guys ever seen a 70’s/80’s british stop-motion animation series + film called “The Wind in the Willows”?
it’s based on a children’s book, with little animals of the woods dressed in very dandish country clothes, with english manerisms, drinking tea, living in kind of highly detailed victorian style miniature houses in the trees,bla, bla, bla
god, just came back to me! how i was obssessed with it as a child when it was on tv…years passed and i recently bought the DVD pack and watched it with my little cousins…they were bored as hell!! not enough adrenaline, too much sweetness and old fashion morals, i guess!
maybe you wouldn’t like it either ! just felt like checking with you guys, because everybody of my generation i talk to about it, don’t really know or show genuine interest!
i do love it, and definitly not ashamed of it!
here’s a sample of it and one of my favourite episodes, that i can remember of:
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CONFESS: over 2 years ago
i guess we are not really, really ashamed, otherwise we wouldn’t share it so lightheartedly :)
This is actually a CELEBRATION of our conscious “bad taste” or whatever we wish to call it (and yes, if we start to dissect the concept we’ll find out that there’s no such thing as good and bad taste; that taste is relative or subjective therefore not discussable, bla, bla, bla…)
I say:
LONG LIVE GOOD, BAD AND SO-AND-SO FILMS!!!
CHEERS TO RIDICULOUS GREATNESS, GREAT NOTHINGNESS, SICK LOVELINESS AND LOVELLY WEIRDNESS!!!
LOVE THE BULLSHIT AND SING-A-LONG!!! :D
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Obscure films by famous directors over 2 years ago
you’re right!
but by the way Dimitris,did you see “Aniki Bóbó”?
Also, talking about native filmmakers, there are 2 portuguese directors that i really like,
There’s JOÃO CESAR MONTEIRO, a controversial visionary author, partly IGNORED BY the big public, parlty KEPT AWAY FROM the big public. He was permanently criticized or misunderstood for his politically incorrect and idiosyncratic body of work while admired by many colleague directors and film critics from all over the world. His work is full of personal symbolism, political and religious critiscism, morbid humour, sarcasm, cynicism and plenty of dualities like virtue V perversion, high culture V popular culture, etc
(see specially “Recordações da casa Amarela”, “A Comédia de Deus”, e “Vai e Vem”(finished few days before he died and in my opinion, his masterpiece and a “swansong” in cinematic terms)
there’s PEDRO COSTA a very acclaimed director of this generation,
(see specially the trilogy “cartas das Fontainhas” that includes: “no quarto da vanda”, “ossos” e “Juventude em Marcha” released recently by criterion collection )
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CONFESS: over 2 years ago
well said Matt!
i totally agree! :)
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CONFESS: over 2 years ago
STRICTLY BALLROOM by Baz Luhrmann
MURIEL’S WEDDING
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CONFESS: over 2 years ago
BODY DOUBLE
BODY HEAT
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GUESS THE FILM over 2 years ago
is it “Medea” from Lars Von Trier?
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Obscure films by famous directors over 2 years ago
“TIME OF THE WOLF” by Michael Haneke
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Obscure films by famous directors over 2 years ago
“NO WAY OUT” , “THE GHOST AND MRS. MUIR” and “A LETTER TO THREE WIVES”
Three early films by Joseph L. Mankiewicz
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Obscure films by famous directors over 2 years ago
i also don’t understand how is it possible that “WHISPERING PAGES” by Alexandr Sokurov has NEVER been released on dvd anywhere in the world, not even in Russia!!!
It’s a breathtaking film and one of the most beautiful, poetic films ever shot! and it’s practically unknown!!! i’ve been trying to find it for years and it continues inexistent!
i think this is probably THE most obscure masterpiece from any great filmmaker
That would be a major task for Criterion Collection!…
MAYBE WE SHOULD GATHER SIGNATURES HERE AND MAKE A PETITION FOR ITS RELEASE ADDRESSED TO CRITERION
WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK?
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The Auteurs' Fake Criterion Covers over 2 years ago
Syriana looks great, Skinner!
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The Auteurs' Fake Criterion Covers over 2 years ago
Congratulations on the topic!
I checked way back from the beginning and many of you guys, have made really outstanding creative covers + some interesting hypothetical film propositions for Criterion!
I wish some of them were actually chosen by CC for release just as they are!
Sometimes “fake” looks better than the real!…
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Obscure films by famous directors over 2 years ago
LETS REALLY DO THAT !
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Obscure films by famous directors over 2 years ago
i can’t think of a better film to be brought to light from the dark, dusty shelves of cinema archives!
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Obscure films by famous directors over 2 years ago
You have a point there, Leaves! and we could do that too!
But the fact that the Criterion C. has no Sokurov film so far, would make it better a reason to get this one on hands!
It would be a great opportunity to introduce Sokurov to the catalogue of the great gems they already have.
And because i would imagine this film having its first release in big style with the usual C.C. beautiful graphic treatment, etc.
perhaps i’m dreaming…
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The Auteurs' Fake Criterion Covers over 2 years ago
It’s brilliant, Kat Uemura!
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Stunning Stills over 2 years ago
IVAN’S CHILDHOOD by Tarkovsky
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