http://www.timeout.com/film/features/show-feature/8366/
I haven’t watched the film yet, but my interest is piqued. I plan on watching it tomorrow.
I very much would like to discuss this film, in particular about where this was made. I don’t believe I’ve ever watched any movie that is from the USSR era. Was this a particularly productive film time period? Are there any fans that have watched this during it’s release period? I have never thought of films being watched in public during the Soviet Union’s existence. Not that I didn’t think there were Cinemas there, I just never considered it.
So it took me a week longer than expected but I just finished the movie. Wow! I cannot honestly say it was unwatchable, sure there were some seriously brutal scenes (running away from his house, the bog, his dad, the village)but nothing I would say that was outlandish. If anything I think that they implied so much more than was shown. I was initially put off by the grainy-ness and pixelated nature of the stream, but the film sucked me into to the point that I didn’t really care; I’m sure both transfer quality and bandwidth played an important part. I don’t NEED to watch it again, but I think that I would very much like to watch it again. There are some very unsubtle metaphors, but I certainly did not understand them all. What does the smashing of the eggs mean? Is that why the bird was watching them? Was that the end of his innocence, his first kill, so to speak? The planes overhead, granted they meant that Germans were there but they seemed to signal Fit hitting the SHan, were they like the riders of the apocalypse? And holy crap did that kid age? He was like Brad Pitt (in u know what) towards the end, he had these huge bags under his eyes and frown marks for miles. To summarize, I would never ever call this a fun movie, but it certainly is an important film. I am so happy that there is a place like The Auteurs where anyone has access to these amazing (at least to me) unknown films.
@ IRRENA – I appreciate your answer but your tone does seem to kind of seethe at what I suppose to be your impression of the American POV. But I’m confused are you responding to my initial post about the State of Soviet films as well as Come and See, or to my opinion of the movie? So I will answer both.
I’ve reflected on it (the movie) and while I don’t think that I misunderstood the movie; I am baffled by your response. “JAMES BALLENGER – it’s pretty normal you didn’t understand or like. it’s hard to understand the mentality of russians when you’re not connected to them in any way. there’s one where they have slogans instead of dialogue: ‘I love the smell of napalm in the morning’ or ‘Fuck, man, this is better than Disneyland.’, ‘What the hell do you know about surfing? You’re from goddamned New Jersey’, and on the other hand you have a war story where they talk for 4 minutes all together in the whole movie. it’s idi i smotri – go and observe. i think that’s pretty much what’s important on the other side of the planet.”
I never meant to sound as if I did not feel art was coming out of the USSR; I simply was not privy to it and so have had very little exposure to it. If you thought that I was speaking in a jingoistic tone, I certainly apologize. I was more hoping for a discussion about the state of the system, was it hard to develop material? Is it like in the US where you have to hunt down art-house theaters to find anything but the current big budget blockbusters? Was Come and See revered when it was out?
I felt that the film was a fantastic work of art that does what any good film should, make you want to discuss it. If I were to dissect it, I would say that the ideas it was trying to share was/is universal; not necessarily profound (war is hell) but worthwhile none the less. I don’t think anyone is shocked to learn that during war, mankind is cruel; I read that the director based some of the brutal scenes on his on personal experiences. As far as comparing Apocalypse Now, I think that is Apples and Oranges. Come and See is a film about the atrocities of War; Apocalypse Now is Heart of Darkness set during the Vietnam war. If you had referenced the Deer Hunter then I think you would have been a little closer to the mark
So I pulled some truly iconic films from my birth year. I can’t vouch for their artistic merit but they still resonate today.
Cooley High
Dolemite
Death Race 2000
Trilogy of Terror
Rocky Horror Picture show
Dog Day Afternoon
One Flew over the Cuckoo’s Nest
Three days of the Condor
Return of the Pink Panther
For the tenth I chose 3. Because people will still seek out the above 9 movies with little prompting. But these 3 I think are just as iconic, maybe just not as appreciated?
Adventures of Sherlock Holmes Smarter Brother / Rikki-Tikki-Tavi / The Apple Dumpling Gang
Called the greatest World War II movie ever.... almost 3 years ago
http://www.timeout.com/film/features/show-feature/8366/
I haven’t watched the film yet, but my interest is piqued. I plan on watching it tomorrow.
I very much would like to discuss this film, in particular about where this was made. I don’t believe I’ve ever watched any movie that is from the USSR era. Was this a particularly productive film time period? Are there any fans that have watched this during it’s release period? I have never thought of films being watched in public during the Soviet Union’s existence. Not that I didn’t think there were Cinemas there, I just never considered it.
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Called the greatest World War II movie ever.... almost 3 years ago
@ Jason Trochesset – No I have not seen any of those. If I have it obviously did not make an impact. I will certainly try to track them down.
I’m a big fan of Das Boot (former Submariner) and I very much can appreciate the Thin Red Line (Malick is the man).
The Ascent, huh? I’ll have to track that down now. Thanks everyone. I’ll post my opinion of the movie after I watch it today.
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Called the greatest World War II movie ever.... almost 3 years ago
So it took me a week longer than expected but I just finished the movie. Wow! I cannot honestly say it was unwatchable, sure there were some seriously brutal scenes (running away from his house, the bog, his dad, the village)but nothing I would say that was outlandish. If anything I think that they implied so much more than was shown. I was initially put off by the grainy-ness and pixelated nature of the stream, but the film sucked me into to the point that I didn’t really care; I’m sure both transfer quality and bandwidth played an important part. I don’t NEED to watch it again, but I think that I would very much like to watch it again. There are some very unsubtle metaphors, but I certainly did not understand them all. What does the smashing of the eggs mean? Is that why the bird was watching them? Was that the end of his innocence, his first kill, so to speak? The planes overhead, granted they meant that Germans were there but they seemed to signal Fit hitting the SHan, were they like the riders of the apocalypse? And holy crap did that kid age? He was like Brad Pitt (in u know what) towards the end, he had these huge bags under his eyes and frown marks for miles. To summarize, I would never ever call this a fun movie, but it certainly is an important film. I am so happy that there is a place like The Auteurs where anyone has access to these amazing (at least to me) unknown films.
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Called the greatest World War II movie ever.... almost 3 years ago
@ IRRENA – I appreciate your answer but your tone does seem to kind of seethe at what I suppose to be your impression of the American POV. But I’m confused are you responding to my initial post about the State of Soviet films as well as Come and See, or to my opinion of the movie? So I will answer both.
I’ve reflected on it (the movie) and while I don’t think that I misunderstood the movie; I am baffled by your response. “JAMES BALLENGER – it’s pretty normal you didn’t understand or like. it’s hard to understand the mentality of russians when you’re not connected to them in any way. there’s one where they have slogans instead of dialogue: ‘I love the smell of napalm in the morning’ or ‘Fuck, man, this is better than Disneyland.’, ‘What the hell do you know about surfing? You’re from goddamned New Jersey’, and on the other hand you have a war story where they talk for 4 minutes all together in the whole movie. it’s idi i smotri – go and observe. i think that’s pretty much what’s important on the other side of the planet.”
I never meant to sound as if I did not feel art was coming out of the USSR; I simply was not privy to it and so have had very little exposure to it. If you thought that I was speaking in a jingoistic tone, I certainly apologize. I was more hoping for a discussion about the state of the system, was it hard to develop material? Is it like in the US where you have to hunt down art-house theaters to find anything but the current big budget blockbusters? Was Come and See revered when it was out?
I felt that the film was a fantastic work of art that does what any good film should, make you want to discuss it. If I were to dissect it, I would say that the ideas it was trying to share was/is universal; not necessarily profound (war is hell) but worthwhile none the less. I don’t think anyone is shocked to learn that during war, mankind is cruel; I read that the director based some of the brutal scenes on his on personal experiences. As far as comparing Apocalypse Now, I think that is Apples and Oranges. Come and See is a film about the atrocities of War; Apocalypse Now is Heart of Darkness set during the Vietnam war. If you had referenced the Deer Hunter then I think you would have been a little closer to the mark
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TOP 10 FILMS FROM YOUR "BIRTH YEAR" almost 3 years ago
So I pulled some truly iconic films from my birth year. I can’t vouch for their artistic merit but they still resonate today.
Cooley High
Dolemite
Death Race 2000
Trilogy of Terror
Rocky Horror Picture show
Dog Day Afternoon
One Flew over the Cuckoo’s Nest
Three days of the Condor
Return of the Pink Panther
For the tenth I chose 3. Because people will still seek out the above 9 movies with little prompting. But these 3 I think are just as iconic, maybe just not as appreciated?
Adventures of Sherlock Holmes Smarter Brother / Rikki-Tikki-Tavi / The Apple Dumpling Gang
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