Ah, thanks to this topic I finally found out what that really scary movie was that I watched with my parents years ago. The Haunting was really scary, one of the scariest things I’ve seen.
Also, a really old Algerian film about something in the hills, can’t remember the name of that either. Bah.
Then I would like to participate in this project :)
I’ve got a couple ideas for pitches in embryo form, which I’ll post here so you can perhaps criticize them and suggest things? Please butcher them if necessary.
Demon Town:
Character wakes up with no one outside, no cars etc just emptiness, search: trying to find out what has happened, certain clues and hints (including napoleon on a horse showing the way, a set of polaroids, the number of a meal deal in a chicken and chip shop, a certain song on repeat and various others) as to what’s happened. Death: confronted by the ‘thing’ (don’t have a firm grasp of what it is yet) a chase, and the discovery of the terrible truth of what has happened. Rebirth: the character makes a decision based on what they have discovered, has been physically changed by it (alone for so long they have forgotten how to speak or eat, and another change I can’t quite describe in words yet, I’ll probably sketch it)
Why does no one ever go to the police?:
Psychopath that likes to play with his food. Is obsessed with Dante’s ‘the divine comedy’, decides to create the world in Divine comedy in real life, inflicting it upon a group of north London youths. Search: search for kidnapped girl (plays the role of “Beatrice” in the killer’s head) Death: Made to go through ‘hell’ (the london underground/tube, a nightclub, a tunnel etc each being a different level) picking clues left by the psychopath as to the location of their friend (all adaptations of things that appear in the poem). Rebirth: Empty tube train to heaven and therefore beatrice, only two youths left alive (“Dante” and “virgil”), one of them gets onto the train, only to realize (from their knowledge of the poem) too late that it’s a trap, the doors shut and the one left behind follows the train shouting and hitting the door, the one inside crying, train disappears into the dark tunnel and that’s the end of the film. There’s plenty of ways to adapt parts of the poem into different plot elements, there are so many levels, punishments, characters and settings in the poem, would be easy to link it to whatever ends up being the key film. I also want to add a bit of gritty London humour to it, and inject plenty of (real) youth culture into it.
The second one is only if I manage to get funding/help, that’s why it’s a bit ambitious. The first one would be pretty easy to do, I can mix live footage with animation, I’ve got an idea of the locations and all I need is a camera, pencils, paper and various programs on my computer :)
I have access to two very bad cameras, or I could persuade my dad’s cameraman to let me burrow one of his big black monstrosities, or I could rent.
Hehe, napoleon would be animated. I will check that out.
Ah, but you see it’s been tattooed onto my brain that ‘it was all a dream’ isn’t a viable storyline. I like the coma idea though.
I have a third storyline idea as well:
A writer imagines a character so vividly it leaks into reality. As usual, at first only the writer can see the character walking and talking (that’s the technique he likes to use to develop a character) eventually other people start to see him, the character begins to look thinner, darker, more malicious and cruel. The character could then either drive the writer to do something, or overpower him and become the writer, taking his place in reality, or something else
I agree, something simple would be good, I do have an idea of just three people talking in a chippie. I’m just throwing ideas around though, the reining in can be done later. I don’t think they’re too ambitious though, napoleon would only be for a few seconds, and the writer’s character would be made of simple black shapes. Thanks for your feedback :)
@Tremolo thanks, I might check it out. Indeed, much easier than the other two
@Thegamgee Yeah they definitely need some reigning in and refining
@Polarisdib Now that you mention it, it is a bit like se7en. I haven’t seen it yet but I did see the adam and joe toyz version, I’ll go and see the real thing now. Losing the serial killer would be ripping the skeleton out of that idea, will be hard but I’ll see what I come up with. Or maybe I could give no explanation at all to it, a bit like religion itself, ’don’t ask questions’ and ‘the work of god is impossible for us to understand, so just accept it’
Eeeeh, I’m hesitant at committing to that Divine Comedy idea, it would be really hard to pull off, and I don’t want to mess up.
I don’t have anymore ideas now sadly, just scenes floating about with no connections :\ Maybe I’ll come up with one later
I like the letter idea, except there are a few snags. Nick Malings is from north wales, and the accent/landscape there is very different to London’s, which is where I am, and also very far away, it would be weird for a police station in North Wales to get a letter from a serial killer in London.
In order for them to think that Daniel is the serial killer the first part of his film would have to have no characters talking or any welsh writing and should be indoors. As for the letter it could be replaced with a post on the internet, or a nationwide police memorandum thing?
Also I get the impression Nick is just sharing a project he’s working on too
And Seth Farmer, that sounds really similar to a Japanese film I once saw featured on japanorama about two transvestites in a futuristic world where you could buy orgasms
The story will be over a period of 9 days, representing the 9 spheres of heaven
All animation is to illustrate the killer’s vision/ideas. There will not be very much of it as there are only three of us doing the animation. It will be animation mixed with camera footage, like in ‘son of rambow’.
Each circle/location has a ‘guardian’ character, a lollipop lady, a homeless person for a tunnel, a cafe owner, a dj etc
To make sure this is not similar to sev7n, more focus will be on locations, random selection of victims who do not have to commit the sin, not seven sins but endless amount of rewards punishments and concepts, and a jack the ripper flavour
The key scenes:
Sequence of “Dante” getting ready for school/work, monotonous, grey, stifling/claustrophobic camera work, equally dull lesson and walking through corridors sequence. A shot of three girls in highly exaggerated “mandem” outfits (tightly gelled back hair, extremely high quifs, large hoop earrings, claw-like fake nails, puffer jackets and dolly shoes, staring vacantly out at space or at their phones chewing gum like cows (reference). School/workplace represents limbo, where the lost souls of the mandem culture ridden youth reside. Animated maggots in the school dinners, a punishment of the uncommitted in the poem.
Dante will go to the regular meeting with three friends at a cafe/kebab/chip shop, “Beatrice” should be there. She isn’t. Representing gluttony, close up shots of people noisily tearing at food, heavy clatter of cutlery on plates, close ups of jaws chewing, in quick succession. Here the group come to eat and eventually talk about finding beatrice who hasn’t been responding since yesterday
Beatrice is seen taped to a chair and gagged in a room full of items depicting things from the 9 spheres of heaven (astronomy map, physics books, aristotle, posters of the milky way galaxy, a vase of roses etc). The killer, seen only from the back and neck down, presses a play button and beatrice is seen struggling, knowing what’s coming next.
Dante gets a tweet/message/text/email, telling him to go to eping forest. The message is from someone called “God”. Dante and “Virgil” (a sidekick type character representing the guiding poet virgil in the poem) go. As they walk on a crooked path (symbolising losing the ‘right’ path in the poem) we see they are being followed by the killer again. Dante breaks off a branch, animated wisp and a faint cry (not heard by Dante and Virgil as it is all in the head of the killer). Eventually the killer knocks them unconcious.
They wake up on a ferry on the river Thames (representing the river Styx) the next day. Both are confused and shaken, they call the other two of the group and say they think they know what happened to Beatrice.
Back in Beatrice’s room. We now see the killer fully for the first time. Killer starts a monologue speech to include all the ‘bolgias’ of fraud. We learn that he is not deeply religious or out to do God’s work, but this is all merely for entertainment. As he describes punishments and quotes from the poem it is said with irony and an amused smile, at one point he barks, with a red face and a string of spit on his mouth that he did it “because it was fun!”, chortles, then goes to press play again. End of ‘search’.
The next section, the death, the killer leads the group to various locations which refer to levels in the poem, whoever the killer judges to be the least competent in solving the puzzle of the hint to the next location, he kills in an inventive way. Locations will include a local park of mine, a subway, an old whitechapel street and any others that I can think of that would be both evocative of a level and easy to design a puzzle for.
Rebirth, last scene, they’ve finally gone through all of the killer’s ‘hell’, two left, Dante and Virgil, they go to take the tube train in the dead of night that will lead them to Heaven and therefore Beatrice. Virgil is the first to step onto the train, too late Dante realises that “virgil” represents virgil from the poem, who cannot enter heaven because he represents non religious philosophy and concepts, the doors shut, Dante bangs fists and kicks the door screaming, Virgil slowly falls to the floor sobbing, the train start moving, Dante follows the train still shouting, we see it go into the dark tunnel and that’s the end.
Further notes:
To reference Polaris, the youths will use the wikipedia entry for guidance
To reference the playstation story there will be a scene of a character either playing playstation or talking about selling it on ebay. I also have an old black and white photo of cows which I can put somewhere in a scene.
The music played by the serial killer in the Beatrice scenes will be, crudely put, happy sounding to create a juxtaposition of the situation and the music
There are a few more scenes I have in mind, I haven’t included them in here because they are not integral to the storyline and can easily be cut or they are half baked.
Rest assured I wrote the pitch with the limitations of my resources in mind, and I made it flexible enough so that parts can be omitted if any problems arise.
Art is art because it’s being called ‘art’ by someone. For example, what is a shoe? Something we’ve all agreed is on your foot because it’s a shoe, no matter if it’s a pair of heels (traditional art) or maybe some modified bin bags (minimalist art) or something lady gaga would wear (modern art). It’s subjective, so art is anything somebody is referring to as art.
Whether it’s good art is completely subjective too, based on what your personal definition of art is. For example I consider comic books as good art, some do not. I do not consider a dirty bed or a smudge on a canvas good art, some do.
Doesn’t matter in the end, it’s just a word! Let’s all be friends
If you don’t want something fancy you could get the nokia n8 phone, I think the results are brilliant and it doubles as a phone. Here’s an example http://www.vimeo.com/15874124
There is a shortcut to my school, and that is to pass straight through the graveyard instead of along it. So on the way to school, two of my characters (“Dante” and “Virgil”) will take the shortcut, Virgil buying flowers from the stall next to the entrance. Dante will ask why he bought flowers, and why they have to take the shortcut as they’re not late. He will complain all the way to a bare grave where Virgil leaves the flowers. Virgil will ask him who it was and he’ll reply with something like “Don’t know. It’s just that every time I pass this grave there’s no flowers, I don’t want this guy to be forgotten”. Dante will laugh and dismiss this. It is at this point we find out that the killer has been listening to the conversation all along, and this is the first encounter the killer has with the two. Dante will get a call from “Beatrice” who, from the way he talks to her, we find that she is his girlfriend. Then we see the killer again and it seems as if he’s had an idea as he’s smirking whilst looking at the two thoughtfully.
Dandara, you should go to an image hosting site like http://imageshack.us/
1) go to http://imageshack.us/
2) Click ‘Browse’ next to the upload slot
3) pick the photo you want to upload, double click it
4) click ‘Upload now’
5) wait for it to finish uploading
6) get rid of the ‘register now!’ popup by clicking x
7) next to ‘Direct link’ copy the code that is in the slot
7) paste the code in the reply slot here
santropez – I fixed that problem by turning off safesearch in privacy and permissions. You can get to it by clicking your username then going to the privacy and permissions tab. It’s under ‘content filters’
I think a film is ‘good’ if it does what it sets out to do, whether that be to disgust, expose, tell a story, ponder on the human condition or look really pretty. A beautiful film with little story deserves as much praise as a film made to make people think or comment on some issue or the qualities of human beings, in my opinion, as long as that’s what the aim of the filmmaker was.
Glemaud – So let him have his exploding shit, hot women and dolly shots. He didn’t set out to do those specifically, they’re merely tools. I’m not familiar with his work but from the sound of it I’m guessing he was setting out to tap into the primal part of the human psyche, the ‘lizard brain’ and all that, and to entertain. He seems not to have entertained you but annoyed you, so he has failed in that respect. If he fails with most of his audience then the film is not ‘good’. And just because it’s “shallow” it doesn’t make stop it from being art. It’s human expression after all.
Hell, 3 hours of two people complaining about the size of cup holders is art and should be up there with Picasso, Warhol, Rembrandt and that Kubrick guy. Whether it’s good art or not depends on whether it communicated what it was meant to communicate. If the cup holder film was meant to be a commentary on modern society but instead it bored you, it’s a bad film. However if it set out to bore you, it’s a good film.
Walberto – Any film that accomplished it’s goals. I’m sorry I can’t really give you a good/extensive list, I don’t have a good enough knowledge
Then of course everyone has what they regard more highly, like in Richard Williams’ ‘The little Island’ where 3 men argue about which is better, truth, knowledge or beauty
Well if you want uncliched then you might want to find that film about a jewish brother and sister having…well I wouldn’t call it romantic love, but an incestuous relationship whilst looking after their dying mother and mourning their father. And then there was that one about the hermaphrodite and how she/he dealt with being in love, and how to go about having a relationship. I can’t remember the names since I watched them on iplayer long ago
Hehe, well those were all I could think of that weren’t ‘cliched’.
Even making a film about real life romantic relationships you won’t escape cliche since people base their relationships on what they’ve been told they should be like i.e. in films they’ve grown up with, told they’re amazing/beautiful etc
Perhaps if you really want to get rid of cliches, at least western ones, you could go to some isolated tribe or group of people and see how relationships form/what is the norm there, and try to find a love story.
Or if you really want to be scientific about it, study relationships from all sorts of human societies and find what is universal and what are just ‘cliches’ that belong to that group.
If by non cliched you just mean a love story that follow the typical route of falling in love but aren’t you’re standard garden variety romance there are quite a few of those
What scene or moment in any given film scared you the most? almost 4 years ago
Ah, thanks to this topic I finally found out what that really scary movie was that I watched with my parents years ago. The Haunting was really scary, one of the scariest things I’ve seen.
Also, a really old Algerian film about something in the hills, can’t remember the name of that either. Bah.
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Film Ideas and Themes for the Collaborative Forum Film Project over 2 years ago
Can there be an animated segment?
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Film Ideas and Themes for the Collaborative Forum Film Project over 2 years ago
Then I would like to participate in this project :)
I’ve got a couple ideas for pitches in embryo form, which I’ll post here so you can perhaps criticize them and suggest things? Please butcher them if necessary.
Demon Town:
Character wakes up with no one outside, no cars etc just emptiness, search: trying to find out what has happened, certain clues and hints (including napoleon on a horse showing the way, a set of polaroids, the number of a meal deal in a chicken and chip shop, a certain song on repeat and various others) as to what’s happened. Death: confronted by the ‘thing’ (don’t have a firm grasp of what it is yet) a chase, and the discovery of the terrible truth of what has happened. Rebirth: the character makes a decision based on what they have discovered, has been physically changed by it (alone for so long they have forgotten how to speak or eat, and another change I can’t quite describe in words yet, I’ll probably sketch it)
Why does no one ever go to the police?:
Psychopath that likes to play with his food. Is obsessed with Dante’s ‘the divine comedy’, decides to create the world in Divine comedy in real life, inflicting it upon a group of north London youths. Search: search for kidnapped girl (plays the role of “Beatrice” in the killer’s head) Death: Made to go through ‘hell’ (the london underground/tube, a nightclub, a tunnel etc each being a different level) picking clues left by the psychopath as to the location of their friend (all adaptations of things that appear in the poem). Rebirth: Empty tube train to heaven and therefore beatrice, only two youths left alive (“Dante” and “virgil”), one of them gets onto the train, only to realize (from their knowledge of the poem) too late that it’s a trap, the doors shut and the one left behind follows the train shouting and hitting the door, the one inside crying, train disappears into the dark tunnel and that’s the end of the film. There’s plenty of ways to adapt parts of the poem into different plot elements, there are so many levels, punishments, characters and settings in the poem, would be easy to link it to whatever ends up being the key film. I also want to add a bit of gritty London humour to it, and inject plenty of (real) youth culture into it.
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Film Ideas and Themes for the Collaborative Forum Film Project over 2 years ago
The second one is only if I manage to get funding/help, that’s why it’s a bit ambitious. The first one would be pretty easy to do, I can mix live footage with animation, I’ve got an idea of the locations and all I need is a camera, pencils, paper and various programs on my computer :)
I have access to two very bad cameras, or I could persuade my dad’s cameraman to let me burrow one of his big black monstrosities, or I could rent.
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Film Ideas and Themes for the Collaborative Forum Film Project over 2 years ago
Hehe, napoleon would be animated. I will check that out.
Ah, but you see it’s been tattooed onto my brain that ‘it was all a dream’ isn’t a viable storyline. I like the coma idea though.
I have a third storyline idea as well:
A writer imagines a character so vividly it leaks into reality. As usual, at first only the writer can see the character walking and talking (that’s the technique he likes to use to develop a character) eventually other people start to see him, the character begins to look thinner, darker, more malicious and cruel. The character could then either drive the writer to do something, or overpower him and become the writer, taking his place in reality, or something else
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Film Ideas and Themes for the Collaborative Forum Film Project over 2 years ago
I agree, something simple would be good, I do have an idea of just three people talking in a chippie. I’m just throwing ideas around though, the reining in can be done later. I don’t think they’re too ambitious though, napoleon would only be for a few seconds, and the writer’s character would be made of simple black shapes. Thanks for your feedback :)
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Film Ideas and Themes for the Collaborative Forum Film Project over 2 years ago
@Tremolo thanks, I might check it out. Indeed, much easier than the other two
@Thegamgee Yeah they definitely need some reigning in and refining
@Polarisdib Now that you mention it, it is a bit like se7en. I haven’t seen it yet but I did see the adam and joe toyz version, I’ll go and see the real thing now. Losing the serial killer would be ripping the skeleton out of that idea, will be hard but I’ll see what I come up with. Or maybe I could give no explanation at all to it, a bit like religion itself, ’don’t ask questions’ and ‘the work of god is impossible for us to understand, so just accept it’
Eeeeh, I’m hesitant at committing to that Divine Comedy idea, it would be really hard to pull off, and I don’t want to mess up.
I don’t have anymore ideas now sadly, just scenes floating about with no connections :\ Maybe I’ll come up with one later
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Film Ideas and Themes for the Collaborative Forum Film Project over 2 years ago
I like the letter idea, except there are a few snags. Nick Malings is from north wales, and the accent/landscape there is very different to London’s, which is where I am, and also very far away, it would be weird for a police station in North Wales to get a letter from a serial killer in London.
In order for them to think that Daniel is the serial killer the first part of his film would have to have no characters talking or any welsh writing and should be indoors. As for the letter it could be replaced with a post on the internet, or a nationwide police memorandum thing?
Also I get the impression Nick is just sharing a project he’s working on too
And Seth Farmer, that sounds really similar to a Japanese film I once saw featured on japanorama about two transvestites in a futuristic world where you could buy orgasms
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Film Ideas and Themes for the Collaborative Forum Film Project over 2 years ago
Seth Farmer – found it :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I.K.U.
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Submissions to the Ergodic Film Project over 2 years ago
Nearly done
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Submissions to the Ergodic Film Project over 2 years ago
Sorry it’s late!
Notes:
The story will be over a period of 9 days, representing the 9 spheres of heaven
All animation is to illustrate the killer’s vision/ideas. There will not be very much of it as there are only three of us doing the animation. It will be animation mixed with camera footage, like in ‘son of rambow’.
Each circle/location has a ‘guardian’ character, a lollipop lady, a homeless person for a tunnel, a cafe owner, a dj etc
To make sure this is not similar to sev7n, more focus will be on locations, random selection of victims who do not have to commit the sin, not seven sins but endless amount of rewards punishments and concepts, and a jack the ripper flavour
The key scenes:
Sequence of “Dante” getting ready for school/work, monotonous, grey, stifling/claustrophobic camera work, equally dull lesson and walking through corridors sequence. A shot of three girls in highly exaggerated “mandem” outfits (tightly gelled back hair, extremely high quifs, large hoop earrings, claw-like fake nails, puffer jackets and dolly shoes, staring vacantly out at space or at their phones chewing gum like cows (reference). School/workplace represents limbo, where the lost souls of the mandem culture ridden youth reside. Animated maggots in the school dinners, a punishment of the uncommitted in the poem.
Dante will go to the regular meeting with three friends at a cafe/kebab/chip shop, “Beatrice” should be there. She isn’t. Representing gluttony, close up shots of people noisily tearing at food, heavy clatter of cutlery on plates, close ups of jaws chewing, in quick succession. Here the group come to eat and eventually talk about finding beatrice who hasn’t been responding since yesterday
Beatrice is seen taped to a chair and gagged in a room full of items depicting things from the 9 spheres of heaven (astronomy map, physics books, aristotle, posters of the milky way galaxy, a vase of roses etc). The killer, seen only from the back and neck down, presses a play button and beatrice is seen struggling, knowing what’s coming next.
Dante gets a tweet/message/text/email, telling him to go to eping forest. The message is from someone called “God”. Dante and “Virgil” (a sidekick type character representing the guiding poet virgil in the poem) go. As they walk on a crooked path (symbolising losing the ‘right’ path in the poem) we see they are being followed by the killer again. Dante breaks off a branch, animated wisp and a faint cry (not heard by Dante and Virgil as it is all in the head of the killer). Eventually the killer knocks them unconcious.
They wake up on a ferry on the river Thames (representing the river Styx) the next day. Both are confused and shaken, they call the other two of the group and say they think they know what happened to Beatrice.
Back in Beatrice’s room. We now see the killer fully for the first time. Killer starts a monologue speech to include all the ‘bolgias’ of fraud. We learn that he is not deeply religious or out to do God’s work, but this is all merely for entertainment. As he describes punishments and quotes from the poem it is said with irony and an amused smile, at one point he barks, with a red face and a string of spit on his mouth that he did it “because it was fun!”, chortles, then goes to press play again. End of ‘search’.
The next section, the death, the killer leads the group to various locations which refer to levels in the poem, whoever the killer judges to be the least competent in solving the puzzle of the hint to the next location, he kills in an inventive way. Locations will include a local park of mine, a subway, an old whitechapel street and any others that I can think of that would be both evocative of a level and easy to design a puzzle for.
Rebirth, last scene, they’ve finally gone through all of the killer’s ‘hell’, two left, Dante and Virgil, they go to take the tube train in the dead of night that will lead them to Heaven and therefore Beatrice. Virgil is the first to step onto the train, too late Dante realises that “virgil” represents virgil from the poem, who cannot enter heaven because he represents non religious philosophy and concepts, the doors shut, Dante bangs fists and kicks the door screaming, Virgil slowly falls to the floor sobbing, the train start moving, Dante follows the train still shouting, we see it go into the dark tunnel and that’s the end.
Further notes:
To reference Polaris, the youths will use the wikipedia entry for guidance
To reference the playstation story there will be a scene of a character either playing playstation or talking about selling it on ebay. I also have an old black and white photo of cows which I can put somewhere in a scene.
The music played by the serial killer in the Beatrice scenes will be, crudely put, happy sounding to create a juxtaposition of the situation and the music
There are a few more scenes I have in mind, I haven’t included them in here because they are not integral to the storyline and can easily be cut or they are half baked.
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Submissions to the Ergodic Film Project over 2 years ago
Rest assured I wrote the pitch with the limitations of my resources in mind, and I made it flexible enough so that parts can be omitted if any problems arise.
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can minimalism enchant unimaginative minds? over 2 years ago
Art is art because it’s being called ‘art’ by someone. For example, what is a shoe? Something we’ve all agreed is on your foot because it’s a shoe, no matter if it’s a pair of heels (traditional art) or maybe some modified bin bags (minimalist art) or something lady gaga would wear (modern art). It’s subjective, so art is anything somebody is referring to as art.
Whether it’s good art is completely subjective too, based on what your personal definition of art is. For example I consider comic books as good art, some do not. I do not consider a dirty bed or a smudge on a canvas good art, some do.
Doesn’t matter in the end, it’s just a word! Let’s all be friends
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Submissions to the Ergodic Film Project over 2 years ago
Proposition 1:
1. Dandara’s pitch – Yes
2. Odilonvert’s pitch – Yes
3. Ryan Estabrooks’ pitch – Yes
4. Santropez’ pitch – Yes
5. The Gamgee’s pitch – Yes
6. Tremolo’s pitch- Yes
Proposition 2:
First choice: Santropez
Second choice: Dandara
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Digital Camcorder Recommendations? over 2 years ago
If you don’t want something fancy you could get the nokia n8 phone, I think the results are brilliant and it doubles as a phone. Here’s an example http://www.vimeo.com/15874124
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Submissions to the Ergodic Film Project over 2 years ago
My adaptation:
There is a shortcut to my school, and that is to pass straight through the graveyard instead of along it. So on the way to school, two of my characters (“Dante” and “Virgil”) will take the shortcut, Virgil buying flowers from the stall next to the entrance. Dante will ask why he bought flowers, and why they have to take the shortcut as they’re not late. He will complain all the way to a bare grave where Virgil leaves the flowers. Virgil will ask him who it was and he’ll reply with something like “Don’t know. It’s just that every time I pass this grave there’s no flowers, I don’t want this guy to be forgotten”. Dante will laugh and dismiss this. It is at this point we find out that the killer has been listening to the conversation all along, and this is the first encounter the killer has with the two. Dante will get a call from “Beatrice” who, from the way he talks to her, we find that she is his girlfriend. Then we see the killer again and it seems as if he’s had an idea as he’s smirking whilst looking at the two thoughtfully.
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Ergodic Film Project Communications over 2 years ago
Dandara, you should go to an image hosting site like http://imageshack.us/
1) go to http://imageshack.us/
2) Click ‘Browse’ next to the upload slot
3) pick the photo you want to upload, double click it
4) click ‘Upload now’
5) wait for it to finish uploading
6) get rid of the ‘register now!’ popup by clicking x
7) next to ‘Direct link’ copy the code that is in the slot
7) paste the code in the reply slot here
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Ergodic Film Project Communications over 2 years ago
That’s alright.
edit: fixed
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Ergodic Film Project Communications over 2 years ago
santropez – I fixed that problem by turning off safesearch in privacy and permissions. You can get to it by clicking your username then going to the privacy and permissions tab. It’s under ‘content filters’
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Ergodic Film Project Communications over 2 years ago
Yeah I agree doing it collectively would be more effective.
I found an interesting article on a successful kickstarter campaign here
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What Ever Happened to Beauty? over 2 years ago
I think a film is ‘good’ if it does what it sets out to do, whether that be to disgust, expose, tell a story, ponder on the human condition or look really pretty. A beautiful film with little story deserves as much praise as a film made to make people think or comment on some issue or the qualities of human beings, in my opinion, as long as that’s what the aim of the filmmaker was.
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What Ever Happened to Beauty? over 2 years ago
Glemaud – So let him have his exploding shit, hot women and dolly shots. He didn’t set out to do those specifically, they’re merely tools. I’m not familiar with his work but from the sound of it I’m guessing he was setting out to tap into the primal part of the human psyche, the ‘lizard brain’ and all that, and to entertain. He seems not to have entertained you but annoyed you, so he has failed in that respect. If he fails with most of his audience then the film is not ‘good’. And just because it’s “shallow” it doesn’t make stop it from being art. It’s human expression after all.
Hell, 3 hours of two people complaining about the size of cup holders is art and should be up there with Picasso, Warhol, Rembrandt and that Kubrick guy. Whether it’s good art or not depends on whether it communicated what it was meant to communicate. If the cup holder film was meant to be a commentary on modern society but instead it bored you, it’s a bad film. However if it set out to bore you, it’s a good film.
Walberto – Any film that accomplished it’s goals. I’m sorry I can’t really give you a good/extensive list, I don’t have a good enough knowledge
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What Ever Happened to Beauty? over 2 years ago
Then of course everyone has what they regard more highly, like in Richard Williams’ ‘The little Island’ where 3 men argue about which is better, truth, knowledge or beauty
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Ergodic Film Project Communications over 2 years ago
1. Yes
2.
Santropez
Odilonvert
The Gamgee
3. Yes
Collective
I have a slight scheduling problem in that I’m burrowing equipment but it’s only available in late March :/
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Ergodic Film Project Communications over 2 years ago
Double post.
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Ergodic Film Project Communications over 2 years ago
Ryan your script is amazing o_o but I’m not voting for it since I can’t really think of a good adaptation
Aspect Ratio:
16:9
1.33:1
1.85.1
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Ergodic Film Project Communications over 2 years ago
Odilonvert I meant adapting my own pitch to his ;)
bump
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Ergodic Film Project Communications over 2 years ago
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Non-Cliched Films About Romantic Love over 2 years ago
Well if you want uncliched then you might want to find that film about a jewish brother and sister having…well I wouldn’t call it romantic love, but an incestuous relationship whilst looking after their dying mother and mourning their father. And then there was that one about the hermaphrodite and how she/he dealt with being in love, and how to go about having a relationship. I can’t remember the names since I watched them on iplayer long ago
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Non-Cliched Films About Romantic Love over 2 years ago
Hehe, well those were all I could think of that weren’t ‘cliched’.
Even making a film about real life romantic relationships you won’t escape cliche since people base their relationships on what they’ve been told they should be like i.e. in films they’ve grown up with, told they’re amazing/beautiful etc
Perhaps if you really want to get rid of cliches, at least western ones, you could go to some isolated tribe or group of people and see how relationships form/what is the norm there, and try to find a love story.
Or if you really want to be scientific about it, study relationships from all sorts of human societies and find what is universal and what are just ‘cliches’ that belong to that group.
If by non cliched you just mean a love story that follow the typical route of falling in love but aren’t you’re standard garden variety romance there are quite a few of those
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