I’ve been looking for some good ones, and the closest thing I could find was Pere Ubu, a great, extremely influential but unfortunatly little known punk/art band. I’ve been through the Noise/Punk/Weird Music thread but couldn’t find anything to suit my fancy. Anyone have anything else?
You might want to pursue David Thomas outside of Pere Ubu.
Have you tried the Residents yet? Not so much like the Captain, but tend to appeal to the same people in an Amazon “you may also like” way; ditto their lablemates/proteges/ whatever they hell they were, Renaldo & the Loaf.
Zoogz Rift might also be of interest. His fatness makes me think you should also try Wesley Willis, perhaps the only true musical “outsider” normally brought into the “outsider music” discussion.
Jake, have you given a listen to Andrew Bird?
Im not Jake, but am currently trying and think Im liking A. Bird
Pere Ubu sounds like Beefheart? uh, ok.
anyway, some of Captain Beefheart’s best licks are solidly based in Blues, is what i’m hearing. so maybe you are craving some blues.
bands that sorta sound like Pere Ubu, to me, are bands like Dinosaur Jr., Husker Du, Swervedriver, Yo La Tengo, Retribution Gospel Choir, maybe the Sea and Cake, and definitely Boris With Michio Kurihara.
The Captain was fairly one of a kind. They seem to draw the most comparison from The Fugs and Zappa’s Mother’s of Invention.
All of these guys (at least) share similar traits with Captain Beefheart and His Magic Band -
The Red Krayola
Amon Duul II
13th Floor Elevators
Just like Captain Beefheart, their songs are pretty hit or miss, with the hits being downright incredible and the misses being the worst misses of all time. Hope you enjoy the stuff.
Except Tom Waits never misses.
Kathleen Brennan-era Tom Waits
I don’t think Andrew Bird and Captain Beefheart sound much alike at all. I would recommend you delve into some of Frank Zappa’s catalog if you like Beefheart. They were close friends and often collaborated. TJ mentioned the Residents and I think that’s good choice as well. You can get a lot of their stuff on iTunes cheap.
Also check out this music blog if you like some more obscure post-punk/electronic music.
I actually like The Residents a lot, love Zappa, Can is pretty good, Gong is okay, Tom Waits is one of my top favorites of all time, I only know one Henry Cow song and Andrew Bird is good, but not too Beefheartian. Thanks for all the recs!
The Fiery Furnaces don’t really sound like Beefheart but his music is a big influence on them and they have their fair share of beefhartian moments. Check out their song “Seven Silver Curses” and many more…
I’m not seeing how Boris has anything at all to do with Pere Ubu (know both very well). A band closer to Pere Ubu would be Henry Cow. You might find a Beefheart-like similarity there. Then again, you might not. Has anyone suggested Tuxedo Moon? How about The Red Krayola? Sun City Girls is a better bet, I think. The fact is, Van Vliet spins in his own peculiar orbit, and the trajectory of these other musicians only infrequently bring them close to the Doc.
since captain is kind of a culmination of all these genres…. here you go
the electric prunes
alexander skip spence
quicksilver messenger service
the great society
the united states of america
west coast pop art experimental band
brian jonestown massacre
the animals (with or without eric burdon)
sir richard bishop
mississippi john hurt
jackie – o – motherfucker
i could get into jazz if you like but maybe this is enough
Tom Waits is in a class of his own. Rain Dogs is the best album of all time imo.
In my opinion, Beefheart sounds like he was influenced by Ornette Coleman and Howlin Wolf, alot. I see Howlin Wolf influencing Beefheart who influenced Tom Waits. I like all three. There are alot of noisy bands influenced by the guitar work of the Magic Band, bands like U.S. Maple and maybe even early Erase Errata. Nurse With Wound is definitely influenced by Beefheart too. Most of the bands people mentioned up there don’t sound anything like Beefheart to me. But they might be doing things in the same spirit as him… freedom/improvisation/surrealist/ballsy/crazy.
sort of inspired by beefheart (as in, don’t necessarily sound like but derive some musical ideas from):
The Pop Group
Sun City Girls
The Red Krayola
Public Image Ltd.
The Fiery Furnaces
XTC (from like 1977-1982)
early Royal Trux
The Birthday Party
The Shaggs (not inspired by, but very beefheart-like)
A lot of post-punk/new wave stuff from the late 70’s/early 80’s is very beefheart inspired, as is a lot of math rock-type stuff.
Trout Mask Replica, btw, is my favorite album ever. Amazing, life-changing, eye-opening stuff.
Yeah BIRTHDAY PARTY.
When I finally got my hands on a copy of Beefheart’s DOC AT THE RADAR STATION, a lot of things about Tom Wait’s stylistic shift (away from his earliest stuff) and Nick Cave’s The Birthday Party—JUNKYARD—in particular (Big Jesus Trashcan) made a lot more sense all of a sudden. If you were trying to bark up the Pere Ubu tree, I strongly recommend you check out JUNKYARD or PRAYERS ON FIRE for the correct answer.
Oh hell…see/hear for yourself: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYoKqfo5jck
One String Sam – I need a 100 dollars
There is only one Don Van Vliet (Captain Beefheart) in this world, nobody comes close! As mentioned before in this thread;13th Floor Elevators, Minutemen and Birthday Party might all be to your liking! Also check out Butthole Surfers if you don’t know them already. You might also like John Lee Hooker and Cecil Taylor.
you should maybe listen to the Damien Jurado cd called “On My Way To Absence”
particularly the song, “Sucker”
it will re-ignite your belief in modern musicians, probably.
I’ll agree with the mentions of Red Krayola, but I’d recommend Mayo Thompson’s solo album ’Corky’s Debt To His Father’ even more
check out Scaruffi.com
i’m a bit late to join this thread but thought i had some important, (mostly chronological), additions that needed to be mentioned here:
BEETHOVEN (esp. late string quartets)
MISSIPPI FRED MCDOWELL
SCREAMIN’ JAY HAWKINS
RAHSAAN ROLAND KIRK
RISING SONS/RY COODER/TAJ MAHAL
THE ROLLING STONES ‘66-’68
NIGHT TRIPPER-ERA DR. JOHN ‘68-’71
THE CRAZY WORLD OF ARTHUR BROWN / KINGDOM COME
SYD BARRETT-ERA PINK FLOYD
THE VELVET UNDERGROUND
ART ENSEMBLE OF CHICAGO
CREATIVE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY
MALLARD (trout mask-era magic band)
BUCKWHEAT (tragic-era tragic band)
RICHARD HELL & THE VOIDOIDS
RED HOT CHILI PEPPERS
THE WHITE STRIPES
TY SEGALL/MIKAL CRONIN
WHY I MUST BE CAREFUL
OMELET/BUFOONICUS SPECTACULUS/SHITTY BEDFORD
MERIDIAN ARTS ENSEMBLE ALBUM “PRIME MERIDIAN”
cover bands: BIG EYED BEANS FROM VENUS, VAN GOO, and of course the john french-led MAGIC BAND
already mentioned and totally agreed with: howlin’ wolf, muddy waters, john lee hooker, ornette coleman, cecil taylor, mothers of invention, soft machine, henry cow, residents, tom waits, the minutemen, early meat puppets, devo, pere ubu, the birthday party, u.s. maple
SUN RA & HIS SOLAR ARKESTRA
FRENCH FRITH KAISER THOMPSON
Michacu and the Shapes is a relatively new experimental band from England that seems inspired by Beefheart (though even more by Harry Partch, in that they invent instruments).
Another interesting young genius who follows her own drum beat is Merrill Garbus and Tune-Yards.
You could also try making a Beefheart Pandora station to find some others.
Jandek. He’s an outsider artist like Captain Beefheart and his music has a similar bluesy feeling…but no one sounds like Jandek but Jandek. (and I second Sun City Girls. Horse Cock Phepner is my fav album of theirs. Sir Richard Bishop on his own is pretty fantastic too!)
RUSTIC HINGE and POLKAHOLICS are the closest to beefheart i’ve encountered