“Music, at that time. I was totally into jazz and my big ambition was to become a famous jazz musician. Milwaukee was not a good town for jazz in those days at all. New York was where everything was happening in jazz. It still is, but especially at that time. During the same time that punk rock was happening, there was a huge jazz scene. Besides that, I always had an ambition to go to New York. It’s the place to go. But, after I got there and I started playing jazz, I realized I was never going to make it in the jazz scene. My whole image and style was too rock n’ roll for the jazz audience, especially at that time, which was a bunch of aging, intellectual hippies and they just couldn’t relate to me. They couldn’t figure me out at all.”