“What’s happened is that once you’ve planted a flag in the sand in one place, people will come and say, ‘Look, do you want to get involved in this and that and the other?’ It’s good to learn and be engaged and listen to people, see what’s going on. But that’s not the motivator: if I was a political person, I’d have gone into politics. I just get involved in things when people come to me: I’m not a musician-slash-activist, that’s not the word.”